Anderson Cooper Attacked by Mob in Egypt

Originally posted by sabbathcrazy
ITS A FAKE!!!! Until we see the actual footage it did not happen. You guys are seriously trusting him? He said he got footage of it, but he does not show it? YOU KNOW THE NEW WOULD BE BLASTING THE FOOTAGE 24/7 IF IT REALLY HAPPEND!!!!!

Good point...with all of their camera they should have captured it on film. So why aren't they showing it?

*EDIT*
nevermind just saw the footage...it doesn't seem that bad...he just got hit a few times. it's not like they hung him upside down and electrocuted him....what does he expect anyways...it's a violent protest. He knew that going in there.

reply to post by freedish


They show it every 15 minutes on CNN, lol. I'm sure it's on youtube now as well.

It's on CNN's front page right now....

edition.cnn.com...

Live uncensored news from Egypt
Here

AlJazeera webcam reporting. American media is becoming more and more censored (lack of ability to travel maybe?). So, if you want to keep up to date, check that link out.

Peace

reply to post by freedish


It wasn't that violent because it wasn't meant to be. That is a rent-a-mob being paid to rough reporters up, but not to kill them. It's all for the purpose of intimidation, but they don't want to create any international incidents...the people they want to kill are the anti-government protesters, and they can't do that effectively with all the journalists recording everything...

reply to post by anon72


YOu hit the nail on the head when you say you don't know why reporters think they are above everyone else and can be in the middle of a riot and somehow no one sees them, especially with a camera filming. People in volatile states of mind, as in the case of people rioting, don't really care who is who they'll just attack anyone and everyone. You'd think a reporter, who has supposedly got intellect would be able to figure that out. No sympathy whatsoever for the reporter or his camera crew. He was lucky to come out of it alive and should count his blessings for that. In a way it's kind of ironic, usually it's the reporters hassling and cajoling their media victims, funny now that the shoe is on the other foot.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Thank you.

Great link and good thinking-posting it here.

reply to post by kiwitina948


No, it's not about luck. At all. The real protesters, the ones who are truly intense, and emotionally charged, have been very welcoming to, and protective of the reporters. It's the paid thugs who are attacking people there, not for a cause they care about but because they're following orders, and it is obvious the orders aren't to seriously injure reporters...

Originally posted by freedish

Haha I wonder if he's still pro Egypt, pro Muslim brotherhood, and pro 'democracy' after seeing their true colors.
Same goes with all of the liberal media.
...but I do feel bad for the guy...no one deserves to get hit in the face 10 times- not even liberals

What kind of partisan nonsense are you spouting?

For all the scrutiny we give people in media and all the personalities out there, Anderson Cooper is one of the few who has a relatively good track record. I mean he is human after all. He also puts himself on the scene regardless of the tragedy, including in Haiti, New Orleans, Lebanon, and now in Egypt. I give him credit for that.

Seriously, do you think Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Glenn Beck would ever step foot outside of their posh studios and their sheltered multi-millionaire lifestyles to cover "real" news? So don't play the partisan blame game here, you'll lose every time.

AFAIK and as far as has been reported, originally the protests were largely peaceful amongst the anti-Mubarak supporters. It was only after the pro-Mubarak crowd came out that problems and violence really became a problem. It's not entirely a coincidence either. There are many reports on and even a history of shady tactics by the police forces there using horrible tactics like inciting violence in crowds. Plainsclothes officers, paying people to be on the pro-Mubarak side, and forcing state employees to protest are only a few of the tactics that likely have been used. Keep in mind the police were nowhere to be found in many of these cases and the army only recently started to mildly intervene. For a conspiracy site where most people believe anybody famous has CIA connections (lol), everyone sure gives the pro-Mubarak protesters the benefit of the doubt.

And quit your implications that Cooper is somehow some bleeding heart liberal who embraces Muslim values. That it appalling. I am sure they say the same thing about Americans and Christian/Jewish values and rightly so. Two sides of the same weird, biased, and ignorant coin.

Originally posted by clay2 baraka

Originally posted by freedish
reply to post by anon72

 

Haha I wonder if he's still pro Egypt, pro Muslim brotherhood, and pro 'democracy' after seeing their true colors.
Same goes with all of the liberal media.
...but I do feel bad for the guy...no one deserves to get hit in the face 10 times- not even liberals

Nice spin.

The mob that attacked him was pro status-quo.

Yeah but the protestors that A.C. and all the liberals are supporting still hate American and Israel.
I think that means they hate you too.

Fox News team severly beaten

For all of the bandwagon jumpers, flipfloppers, and hip dudes, there is an equally interesting story in another of Anon's threads at the link above.

I wonder how many people's opinions will change from one thread to the other?

As for me, I tried to be a little more politically correct in the other thread, but just for the record, my opinion hasn't changed. Anyone that gets out alive, be they FOX, ABC, or MSNBC should thank their lucky stars, and commend the crowds for the civility and restraint they are showing!

reply to post by freedish


Freedish, no one person, or small sample of people in that crowd speaks for the majority except in one regard. When they tell you they want rid of Mubarak, and to create a democratic society and political system, then they represent the whole.
Even the representative of the Muslim Brotherhood , interviewed over the phone at lunchtime (UK) said that on this point, Muslims Christians, and Atheists and everyone agree on only this central point, and are marching together under the banner of freedom. Shoulder to shoulder. This also from the nation who , under a wave of terror attacks against Coptic Christian centres, saw Muslims sheilding Christians and thier places of worship from attack during prayer times. Again shoulder to shoulder, with common purpose.
There will be the odd extremist , thats inevitable, but the majority of people want peace and freedom, and the hell with the details. Thats the attitude that comes out if you take ALL the comments that have been made over the last ten days, and ALL the chants, and all the facts of whats been happening in Egypt for the last few months. Egypt is possibly the only nation in the Middle East where I can see a genuine sense of kinship building between Muslims and Christians, and that in my view can only be a good thing. We should support it.

reply to post by freedish


Then why are they protecting westerners and western reporters? Because the majority of the anti-government protesters don't hate us, and are young, educated human beings. Stop being ignorant and making it out to be a religious extremist uprising, it's not. There may be a small percentage who feel that way, but for the most part their angry at our GOVERNMENTS, for supporting the dictator that oppresses them. Unlike alot of ignorant Americans though, they're able to look past that and realize that most of us have no control over our corrupt governments, so they protect westerners despite the fact they dislike our governments. I'm sure a muslim wouldn't get that kind of protection during a riot here in America...

To be fair, even a pro-Mubarak thug stepped in when one of CNN's women reporters was being harrassed, and told the others she was with him, and he led her to safety...

reply to post by 27jd

Because the majority of the anti-government protesters don't hate us, and are young, educated human beings. Stop being ignorant and making it out to be a religious extremist uprising, it's not. There may be a small percentage who feel that way, but for the most part their angry at our GOVERNMENTS, for supporting the dictator that oppresses them. Unlike alot of ignorant Americans though, they're able to look past that and realize that most of us have no control over our corrupt governments, so they protect westerners despite the fact they dislike our governments. I'm sure a muslim wouldn't get that kind of protection during a riot here in America...

Think how much they would love us if we followed their example! Just think if all corrupt governments were suddenly overrun by the people, and the "young, educated human beings" took over and learned to coexist peacefully!

I disagree with your last sentence though. Muslims in America would be defended equally by the good ol' hardworking moderate folks here. Just like you say of that crowd over there, we have a few extremists, but the vast majority are critical thinking human beings that would not allow an innocent person to get hurt if there was anything they could do to stop it.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Anyone that gets out alive, be they FOX, ABC, or MSNBC should thank their lucky stars, and commend the crowds for the civility and restraint they are showing!

Wrong man. The violent ones are the government thugs, out of uniform police, and government employees paid to provoke violence. It's the exact same BS we saw in Iran, and the Egyptian government doesn't want the reporters seriously injured, just shaken up and not filming the true violence against the anti-government crowd. Stop trying to wing bait people, it's wrong whether it's a Fox reporter, or MSNBC. It has nothing to do with luck, the crowd was half @ssedly attacking the reporters on purpose, they don't want an international incident anymore than there is....

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Think how much they would love us if we followed their example! Just think if all corrupt governments were suddenly overrun by the people, and the "young, educated human beings" took over and learned to coexist peacefully!

Dude, that's been my dream for a long time now. But, our government is too good at keeping us hating each other, they've made an art out of it with the false "left vs. right wing" bullcrap. Nobody is truly defined by a political party, we all lean a little in both directions on various issues given our life experiences, but they somehow convince so many people here that they fit a certain mold, and everybody else hates them and wants to convert their children...if we can resist that BS one day we may all stand together.

reply to post by 27jd


I agree. I think the crowds, by and large, are not behaving all that violently, and the reporters that are getting hurt, are also getting rescued and treated, and that is a testament to the civility of the individuals within the crowd.

I am offended that the reporters are not reporting this kindness, and instead they are reporting how violent and chaotic things are. If things were as bad as they lead us to believe, then they would not be so lucky as to their minor injuries and short delays in reporting.

We all know that news over-sensationalizes everything in order to make good TV and headlines in order to sell more adspace. It doesn't make good news stories to say, "a few wildly radical people approached and threatened or assaulted us, but luckily the majority of the crowd was civil and helped us get to safety."

I believe the people within those crowds are exactly as you say they are, but I don't believe we will hear any of these news teams say so, and it is appalling to me how the reporting is sensationalized and warped, and it is somewhat entertaining to see them be harrassed. That is what they get for being "less than honest."

reply to post by timewalker


I think I'm sort of in your camp.

How can they or us tell if the protesters were pro-Mubarak or anti-Mubarak? I don't know Arabic, but I didn't hear anything in the vid that identifies the mob either way. It looks like a total melee and hard for me to determine who's on what side.

Any insight on this?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
I believe the people within those crowds are exactly as you say they are, but I don't believe we will hear any of these news teams say so, and it is appalling to me how the reporting is sensationalized and warped, and it is somewhat entertaining to see them be harrassed. That is what they get for being "less than honest."

I've been watching alot of CNN, and they did point out several times that many in the crowds have been very protective of them, even the video of AC getting attacked clearly shows Egyptians trying to shield him and get him out of harms way. They also showed footage of the woman reporter being escorted away from the crowd by the pro-Mubarak supporter as he told others to back off. Apparently his morality won out over his government loyalty. But, I wouldn't have known about any of those things unless the CNN reporters reported it. I did watch some Hannity last night, and was honestly appauled by how he had the muslim brotherhood guy on there, and would ask him questions, but wouldn't let him answer at all, he would rudely interrupt as the man calmly tried to explain his (ignorant) position, and told the man what his answers were, also ignorantly. I gotta say, CNN is much more objective than Fox and MSNBC, IMO.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by anon72

 

And they couldn't finish him off?

That mob sucks, no wonder Mubarek is still in power.

Riots just aren't what they used to be.

Do you still stand by this statement.

I have lost a lot of respect for you and mods in general. Oh, I know "mods are people" too but they shoud be held to a higher standard as they represent the ATS community and the 3 amigos.

reply to post by indianajoe77


I would like to point out that most correspondants who travel abroad speak the languages of the nations they are visiting. Where that is not the case, they have to have interpreters with them, in order to be able to actualy have a clue what is happening at any one time.
As anyone who is used to mobs and dangerous crowd activity will tell you, it is hard enough to tell whats happening in a crowd when you speak the language. If you do not, its virtualy impossible, as is any realisticaly effective communication.