What in god's name is happening??

Originally posted by gringoboy
From the prophet himself .Matthew 24:1-36

The Scriptures teach principles of Truth more than anything. If you dig out the principles taught in those verses, it is much easier to understand what is being taught.

The prophetic verses you quoted are in response to the observations (the buildings of the temple, which are representative of man‘s work on earth under God) and questions of men (signs of the time of the Second Advent and the end of the world).

Christ stating that there “shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” (2) teaches that all the works of men will be thrown down.

That word “thrown”, in the original text is kataluo (Strong’s G2647). It is a combination of a primitive preposition meaning down (SG2596) and a verb meaning to loosen (SG3089).

Therefore, the principle taught by Christ in His response to their wonderment of the temple buildings is that all of the workings of men on earth will be “loosened down” down, with the word down stated twice for emphasis; and properly translated, it means abased.

Abased by Christ Himself, obviously.

The entire Scriptures can be properly translated using this method.

As you move into the prophetic answer to their questions, you will find a warning first, “Take heed that no man deceive you.” (4)

There is a lot taught in those verses, and it takes a lot to study them in depth, but the tools to do it are readily available.

In the proper context, it pertains to the foundations of the world principles taught throughout the entire Word. There are two words from the original texts that are translated foundation in the New Testament: themelios and katabole.

The noun form of themelios is never used of the world or earth (meaning the created), but is used in the verb form of the actions of the creation. The noun form is God, symbolically and literally.

The noun form of katabole actually means casting down or overthrow.

In this, we find that this world is being “founded” by God casting down the false efforts of His creatures to defile it. It is His world, and man just happens to be in it. John 1.1 teaches that everything was created by the Word of God. All created beings will be made to realize that things do go His way or no way for each of us, in the flesh and the spirit.

Life will continue because God loves His creation, so do I.

reply to post by Soke33


Very enlightening viewpoint and as you rightly point out is in the creating from a creation no matter of religion or spirituality.However living spiritually is peacefully co -existing,note existing and with all peoples of the world you can exist or not,which would you choose ,everything going on is because of lack of material needs,spirituality has nothing to do with it,power and killing for ideology,history repeats itself,its the carrot and the stick again.
People may not be becoming enlightened but afraid and seeking answers because thier leaders are failing them.
Enlightenment does not come from watching the news or filling your cerebral cortex with information from other sources but when the creative force shows itself to be supreme and no one can defy it.
Spirituality exudes from that reality,of mortality and demise to birth and renewals,everthing is going to somewhere as the creative force marches on.
The teachings of yeshua show this quite well,eveything happened exactly as he said it would as though it was already made to happen,like recorded and he was pyschically tuned to the unfolding and even sacrificed his life for his spirituality or ideology.
He even joked drink of my body(blood)saying it as a insult to men that we are all animals.Very intelligent creation.

reply to post by gringoboy


In that God is Truth and God never changes, that means Truth never changes. The bottom line is the same bottom line, always.

Living spiritually in a physical world of both positive and negative doesn’t mean existing peacefully in it, so the spirit of an entity being tossed about men will not be peaceful, lest it be in denial.


When Christ stated:

“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law,
And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.” -Matthew 10.34

He actually stated the obvious; some people are going to follow the Truth, and some aren’t.

I personally know people of both kinds, and the only peace I find is that I create for myself with what I am given. I do this and have peace, not only in my physical surroundings but within my spirit. They both matter equally in my opinion; even so, on a worldwide scale in the relationships between peoples.

Christ came to provide the peace between man and God, not between men and other men. He basically forgave us, and He now requires that we work on forgiving one another.

That’s proving to be not such an easy thing to do, despite all of the present evidence of why.

Very intelligent creatures, indeed.





God is not the enemy, but some people perceive Him that way. The Truth is not the enemy; that would be the lies, friend.

My peace has brought me peace with God and among men. It truly is real peace, and I am content.

Edit to add: we all must deny something, either Truth or lies.

reply to post by Soke33


May peace prevail and the prayer for our daily supplications and the peace of never needing wanting destruction but spiritual growth instead of bad material substitutes.

reply to post by sinohptik


i agree totaly man ,LOVE or FEAR.

reply to post by pepsi78


its not about light vs dark its about balance ,positive and negative needs to be in the middle .

What is happening is the complete and shocking transformation. There is not going to be any world war or global cataclysm. Even if everything may indicate on that.

Originally posted by Deithiel

What is happening is the complete and shocking transformation. There is not going to be any world war or global cataclysm. Even if everything may indicate on that.

Don't hold your breath. And pull your head out of the sand.

Originally posted by AdamJagger1111
reply to post by pepsi78

 

its not about light vs dark its about balance ,positive and negative needs to be in the middle .

I like your optimism, to bad it's futile.
Look at reality head on, you don't want to walk into a wall.

i seriously dont belive in the end of days, use to be really into it but that was before i discovered the ultra deep field picture. i realised wow we are so small and yet we see ourselves as the center of the universe. and yes beleving in the end of days is a form of selfishness, deep down it makes you feel more important than ur ancestors because u where the last generation.

Inside, between, and among...

Remember these words and you shall be very wise.

Confirm within yourselves which you know so well, to be truth. That hidden spark of "knowing" which comes from no book or teaching; but it just "is" and always will "be." Nothing can change the "knowing." Those "ebbs and flowings" of "what is right" and "what is wrong" in this world. Subscribing to an "interpretation" which may fit roughly, but not "in totality;" yet but an obsolete rendering of something which should never be endeavored to reproduce? How can one bottle a "feeling?" To capture the very "essence" of "what is" would forever arrive at its destruction of the split-second perfection?

Do you understand what the message is saying? Put-away those "child-ish" things made-up to pacify an ego of fear of things which are not made readily available to understanding and vision. To not see is to see a choice of decision where things ought not appear what they are. A capacity of insight into sheer perfect revelation of knowing all frightens some, who are continually terrorized from strengths made-into a collective weakness; but no it is impossible or not popular to be exceptional and different when they have conflicting meanings.

Do you see now, a brief ray of light which might jolt you from a void of sleep?

It's really so simple when visualization and focusing is so important; used unwisely, as we are doing, results in damnation and chaos. If we are what we eat, then it follows that we exist where we "think" or where we don't think. Continuing a perpetual loop of stereotypical bias to "moderate" will result in an explosion of potential, when it should be directed more properly for a greater task which produces. Electronic is the pathway of neurons through a salient and routed pattern of logical pathways exercised enough to widen and increase the potential of the "thought" or "visualization."

Who is to say, that "any of us cannot be anything that we wish or visualize ourselves to be?" Only yourself. To subscribe to an interpretation of another easily, while knowing different, is to "disconnect" from being "you." The "you" you are destined and actually "are," at some point. Once you feel the "puppet strings" and "pull" on them enough to realize you are the "puppet-master" and the "puppet," at the same time, depending upon scale of perspective, everything will make sense that is "is what it is."

And is as complicated as you "make-it-to" be....literally. IF you really want to save the world, then just "smile" to everyone you see; you will be amazed at the "return." Now, imagine if everyone did this at the same time and frequency? All of the time?

It's really this simple...

A REQUIEM OF ETERNITY

With everything and potential pleases only brooding nothingness,
Waiting on expression, a thought, with inspiration as Divine?
A time, times, and half-a-time leaves witness to become being much,
Appreciating the universe in watching wishes on a star?
As the frame falls from the wall as it cracks as a run-of-time,
It never remains itself a former glory, neither fame.
A reference-point during moments, a reminder of forgotten dreams,
And to be forgotten in cold eons of perpetual restraint.
To wait for light at revelation’s remains against to which break,
To tear-down every point from which cord drew the portrait to hang Sublime?

Originally posted by zptramel
i seriously dont belive in the end of days, use to be really into it but that was before i discovered the ultra deep field picture. i realised wow we are so small and yet we see ourselves as the center of the universe. and yes beleving in the end of days is a form of selfishness, deep down it makes you feel more important than ur ancestors because u where the last generation.

Keep believing that, the old serpent has got you right where he want's you.

Originally posted by trekwebmaster

Inside, between, and among...

Remember these words and you shall be very wise.

Confirm within yourselves which you know so well, to be truth. That hidden spark of "knowing" which comes from no book or teaching; but it just "is" and always will "be." Nothing can change the "knowing." Those "ebbs and flowings" of "what is right" and "what is wrong" in this world. Subscribing to an "interpretation" which may fit roughly, but not "in totality;" yet but an obsolete rendering of something which should never be endeavored to reproduce? How can one bottle a "feeling?" To capture the very "essence" of "what is" would forever arrive at its destruction of the split-second perfection?

Do you understand what the message is saying? Put-away those "child-ish" things made-up to pacify an ego of fear of things which are not made readily available to understanding and vision. To not see is to see a choice of decision where things ought not appear what they are. A capacity of insight into sheer perfect revelation of knowing all frightens some, who are continually terrorized from strengths made-into a collective weakness; but no it is impossible or not popular to be exceptional and different when they have conflicting meanings.

Do you see now, a brief ray of light which might jolt you from a void of sleep?

It's really so simple when visualization and focusing is so important; used unwisely, as we are doing, results in damnation and chaos. If we are what we eat, then it follows that we exist where we "think" or where we don't think. Continuing a perpetual loop of stereotypical bias to "moderate" will result in an explosion of potential, when it should be directed more properly for a greater task which produces. Electronic is the pathway of neurons through a salient and routed pattern of logical pathways exercised enough to widen and increase the potential of the "thought" or "visualization."

Who is to say, that "any of us cannot be anything that we wish or visualize ourselves to be?" Only yourself. To subscribe to an interpretation of another easily, while knowing different, is to "disconnect" from being "you." The "you" you are destined and actually "are," at some point. Once you feel the "puppet strings" and "pull" on them enough to realize you are the "puppet-master" and the "puppet," at the same time, depending upon scale of perspective, everything will make sense that is "is what it is."

And is as complicated as you "make-it-to" be....literally. IF you really want to save the world, then just "smile" to everyone you see; you will be amazed at the "return." Now, imagine if everyone did this at the same time and frequency? All of the time?

It's really this simple...

A REQUIEM OF ETERNITY

With everything and potential pleases only brooding nothingness,
Waiting on expression, a thought, with inspiration as Divine?
A time, times, and half-a-time leaves witness to become being much,
Appreciating the universe in watching wishes on a star?
As the frame falls from the wall as it cracks as a run-of-time,
It never remains itself a former glory, neither fame.
A reference-point during moments, a reminder of forgotten dreams,
And to be forgotten in cold eons of perpetual restraint.
To wait for light at revelation’s remains against to which break,
To tear-down every point from which cord drew the portrait to hang Sublime?

I read your new age mumbo jumbo, and noticed a few words and I mean a few that seem to be stolen from a source that actually makes sense and carries a double edge sword in it's meaning and power.

No idea what is happening but things are changing.

Stress and anxiety levels are through the roof for a lot people. Have been for a while. Not sure how much of this people can put up with and this is maybe only the start.

As crazy as things are getting its strange how everything seems to fit.

The clues are all around us

Has there ever been a more appropriate athem for the times we are living in?



Its not really the end. Its a new beginning.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


No this is not the end, it's the beginning of the end to life as we know it.
And if your like any of the new age, "excuse me" fools that think there's going to be an awakening to a new higher plain of existence, than you just another mislead, and deceived human on the face of this earth.

Originally posted by hawaii50th
reply to post by JohnySeagull

 

No this is not the end, it's the beginning of the end to life as we know it.
And if your like any of the new age, "excuse me" fools that think there's going to be an awakening to a new higher plain of existence, than you just another mislead, and deceived human on the face of this earth.

Its ok. I have seen it. You have to look for answers within if you want to see it.


peace.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


I've seen it too, but I didn't have to look within. It has already been written over 2000 years ago.
Man's wisdom is the wisdom of fools, but I can't even begin to tell you more, you will not be able to see or to understand.

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by trekwebmaster

Inside, between, and among...

Remember these words and you shall be very wise.

Confirm within yourselves which you know so well, to be truth. That hidden spark of "knowing" which comes from no book or teaching; but it just "is" and always will "be." Nothing can change the "knowing." Those "ebbs and flowings" of "what is right" and "what is wrong" in this world. Subscribing to an "interpretation" which may fit roughly, but not "in totality;" yet but an obsolete rendering of something which should never be endeavored to reproduce? How can one bottle a "feeling?" To capture the very "essence" of "what is" would forever arrive at its destruction of the split-second perfection?

Do you understand what the message is saying? Put-away those "child-ish" things made-up to pacify an ego of fear of things which are not made readily available to understanding and vision. To not see is to see a choice of decision where things ought not appear what they are. A capacity of insight into sheer perfect revelation of knowing all frightens some, who are continually terrorized from strengths made-into a collective weakness; but no it is impossible or not popular to be exceptional and different when they have conflicting meanings.

Do you see now, a brief ray of light which might jolt you from a void of sleep?

It's really so simple when visualization and focusing is so important; used unwisely, as we are doing, results in damnation and chaos. If we are what we eat, then it follows that we exist where we "think" or where we don't think. Continuing a perpetual loop of stereotypical bias to "moderate" will result in an explosion of potential, when it should be directed more properly for a greater task which produces. Electronic is the pathway of neurons through a salient and routed pattern of logical pathways exercised enough to widen and increase the potential of the "thought" or "visualization."

Who is to say, that "any of us cannot be anything that we wish or visualize ourselves to be?" Only yourself. To subscribe to an interpretation of another easily, while knowing different, is to "disconnect" from being "you." The "you" you are destined and actually "are," at some point. Once you feel the "puppet strings" and "pull" on them enough to realize you are the "puppet-master" and the "puppet," at the same time, depending upon scale of perspective, everything will make sense that is "is what it is."

And is as complicated as you "make-it-to" be....literally. IF you really want to save the world, then just "smile" to everyone you see; you will be amazed at the "return." Now, imagine if everyone did this at the same time and frequency? All of the time?

It's really this simple...

A REQUIEM OF ETERNITY

With everything and potential pleases only brooding nothingness,
Waiting on expression, a thought, with inspiration as Divine?
A time, times, and half-a-time leaves witness to become being much,
Appreciating the universe in watching wishes on a star?
As the frame falls from the wall as it cracks as a run-of-time,
It never remains itself a former glory, neither fame.
A reference-point during moments, a reminder of forgotten dreams,
And to be forgotten in cold eons of perpetual restraint.
To wait for light at revelation’s remains against to which break,
To tear-down every point from which cord drew the portrait to hang Sublime?

I read your new age mumbo jumbo, and noticed a few words and I mean a few that seem to be stolen from a source that actually makes sense and carries a double edge sword in it's meaning and power.

A few which seem to be stolen? Perhaps the title only. I read the title on ATS and it resonated to such an extent that those words became the article written. Trust me when I say that these words above are not "mumbo jumbo," but truth. Simple truth. Why lie when the truth can take care of itself?

Blessings to you!

reply to post by hawaii50th


When you look inside yourself, you'll see the face of G_d. Except the trap lies where mankind subverts G_d's perspective for their own. Make no delusion of what you "think" G_d would think; but that's man's arrogance to assume to know the unknowable mind of G_d. All preconceptions must be set-aside and full acceptance attained to even glimpse this reality.

It IS what it IS.

reply to post by nakiannunaki


I don't know if it's the end but a change is definitely coming. And I think a lot of people can feel it. Man, just taking in the events over the past 20 years... it's scary how far we've gone and how much things have changed.