"UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem" [discussion and analysis of multiple videos HERE]

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by spy66

 

There is sound.Just not so good with the guy in back..but check out the video of the guy who was in front.

Turn this up all the way and listen!
www.youtube.com...

The sound would be much louder if the UFO had broken the sound barrier. The pressure that would create would have shaken the ground and probably shattered all the glass in every building in that city.

reply to post by Illustronic

Have you ever taken a night time digital photograph before? Didn't you need a timed exposure to pick anything up?

This is not a cell phone video, none are that sensitive to pick up a foreground scene and distant city lights with the same exposure in motion video. It's not convincing me to be authentic.

I'm convinced it's post production editing.

I never said this couldn't be a hoax.

Also - I have taken plenty of night time video with my iphone 3gs in my neigborhood without any need for timed exposure at all. I have a 10 megapixel fujifilm HD camera also, I have taken night shots of fireworks without timed exposure - and they look awesome... so - do I think that these videos could have been made with cell phones? absolutely.

Do I think they are real videos of a UFO? Perhaps not.

Is it possible that unknown flashes in Jerusalem only
was seen by thos two gentlemen ?

reply to post by Illustronic

Yeah, the fact they're trying to sell the second vid as the footage the guy in front filmed, screams HOAX. CGI all the way.

reply to post by cluckerspud


Thanks!

Originally posted by spy66
Wouldn't this UFO have broken the sound barrier at the speed it took of at?

Why dont we hear a loud Bang?

The UFO would also have to push a side a lot of air to be able to accelerate away at that speed. Why no sound from that?

I think from what I've read about ufos, they don't travel in the air, they 'surf' it. Sonic booms are cause by the displacement of aircraft air to collide with the the air in front of it, but this isn't the case with UFO propulsion. Zorgon would know more about this I'm guessing. It has a lot to do with subatomic particles surrounding the UFO basically skipping across air molecules.

reply to post by simples

this is my point exactly there are no facts that debunk it but there are no facts to say its realy. so here we are page 13 of this thread and not any closer to debunking it or proving it.

we need some ATS veterans input

I have summoned the mighty Zorgon - but it takes some time for the various magical incantations to take effect before he can manifest!

No buildings or earthly structures show any side lit or effects of this bright light being present in this area, the scene simply gets brighter with no objects showing any visual reference to having this light in the center of the city.

Originally posted by cluckerspud

Why does the second cell seem to have trouble focusing.
This looks awkward and questionable.

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by spy66

 

There is sound.Just not so good with the guy in back..but check out the video of the guy who was in front.

Turn this up all the way and listen!
www.youtube.com...

The sound would be much louder if the UFO had broken the sound barrier. The pressure that would create would have shaken the ground and probably shattered all the glass in every building in that city.

No it wouldnt, the object is too small to produce a boom as loud as shattering every window in an entire city, and depending on its shape (true shape) you cannot determine what boom it would have created unless you could test it properly.

reply to post by FlySolo


Bullets from a high powered rifle create small sonic booms, it's part of that loud noise when you pull the trigger. I used to fire off a few .762's on New Years for the fun of it, it's quite loud and the bullets are quite small, like this supposed UFO must be.

The fact is it is in our atmosphere, there is no getting around those physics.

reply to post by spy66


"The sound would be much louder if the UFO had broken the sound barrier. The pressure that would create would have shaken the ground and probably shattered all the glass in every building in that city."

Says you.

Are you claiming to know the ufo's propulsion system?Sounded more like a whoosh of air to me.I said it "kind of" sounded like a sonic boom.But it was more of a swooshing sound.Like the air went right through the ufo because usually you have air flow that slows down anything that's speeding up,but if you had some kind of system to allow the air to go through the whole ship or ufo or whatever then it would go faster.

I would love to see another photo from the same spot, as mentioned before the light to the left of the object looks identical to the object. So maybe they used that same light and moved it over in editing.....or the lights always there and they took it out? I wonder if there's a CC cam that would show a similar view of the area? Anyone live in Jerusalem?

reply to post by cluckerspud

Why does the second cell seem to have trouble focusing.
This looks awkward and questionable.

I think cell phones have various problems focusing at night time - I know my iphone 3gs does... but it still can film and produce video. Even standard cameras have trouble focusing durring the night thus the need to have longer exposures. Cell phones don't have that kind of exposure lens technology built in for night time photos/videos - so the camera reacts in a way to try to focus on anything it can 'see'

Originally posted by jrmcleod

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by spy66

 

There is sound.Just not so good with the guy in back..but check out the video of the guy who was in front.

Turn this up all the way and listen!
www.youtube.com...

The sound would be much louder if the UFO had broken the sound barrier. The pressure that would create would have shaken the ground and probably shattered all the glass in every building in that city.

No it wouldnt, the object is too small to produce a boom as loud as shattering every window in an entire city, and depending on its shape (true shape) you cannot determine what boom it would have created unless you could test it properly.

Well this UFO has a mass of some sort. And it took of and accelerated many times the speed of sound. We should have heard a loud Bang. Or a loud cracking sound from the mass pushing through air. The same sound as lightning makes.

reply to post by GodIsPissed


It doesn't have anything to do with the propulsion system. Its the mass the UFO is made up by that would create the sound when moving through air.

Originally posted by jrmcleod

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by spy66

 

There is sound.Just not so good with the guy in back..but check out the video of the guy who was in front.

Turn this up all the way and listen!
www.youtube.com...

The sound would be much louder if the UFO had broken the sound barrier. The pressure that would create would have shaken the ground and probably shattered all the glass in every building in that city.

No it wouldnt, the object is too small to produce a boom as loud as shattering every window in an entire city, and depending on its shape (true shape) you cannot determine what boom it would have created unless you could test it properly.

Sonic booms were actually proven on mythbusters that they do not break glass. A jet flying at a 300' pass couldn't even crack a wine glass.

reply to post by spy66


You can't claim to know the workings of a UFO!

We know human technology creates sonic booms but whose to say whoever made that ufo is human?

Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by FlySolo

 

Bullets from a high powered rifle create small sonic booms, it's part of that loud noise when you pull the trigger. I used to fire off a few .762's on New Years for the fun of it, it's quite loud and the bullets are quite small, like this supposed UFO must be.

The fact is it is in our atmosphere, there is no getting around those physics.

I never said bullets couldn't create a sonic boom. I said its the bullwhip effect of the air collision. But, ufos don't travel through conventional ways.

reply to post by spy66


Good point sir, one that only you so far has brought up. One would think this object might have accelerated beyond 750 mph to go that fast at sea level, though the mound is a bit higher, but not that much, it took off very fast like a rocket or bullet.