Humans are naturally plant-eaters

Actually humans are Omnivores.

That means we eat both meat and plants.

This has gone back for 10s of thousands of years.

We were originally CARRION scavengers. That means we didn't even bother cooking it, just find a dead animal and eat some of it. It is theorized our appendix fought the bad bacteria we got from carrion.

Trying to say humans are herbivores is extremely uneducated and illogical.

If we were herbivores it would be impossible to chew meat correctly or digest it.

Common sense....

Therefore Omnivore it is.

Stop trying to push your twisted dietary political opinions on other people.

Hitler was a vegetarian too apparently, coincidence? I think not.

I'm a vegan and I've never felt better in my life.
It becomes obvious to you when you haven't had anything from another living being in your system for a long period of time, that meat really isn't good for you.
It's hard to describe but it kind of feels like your soul is pure (not to sound like a preachy bible f--king maniac) but it's the best way I can think to say it. Also bowel movements have never been easier

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True. There will be much written about incisors and they will be misinformed. We are not meant to eat meat. We can but we are not designed for it right down to intestinal fluids. We eat meat because we are still little barbarians who don't know any better. But we are learning. One of these days we will be all we were meant to be. Not tomorrow or anything...but soon.

Originally posted by FunktheNWO

It's hard to describe but it kind of feels like your soul is pure (not to sound like a preachy bible f--king maniac) but it's the best way I can think to say it. Also bowel movements have never been easier

Lol, i suppose the vegetarian Hitler feel the same, a very very pure soul.

Originally posted by rusethorcain
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True. There will be much written about incisors and they will be misinformed. We are not meant to eat meat. We can but we are not designed for it right down to intestinal fluids. We eat meat because we are still little barbarians who don't know any better. But we are learning. One of these days we will be all we were meant to be. Not tomorrow or anything...but soon.

We are more adapted to eating meat than we are plants, like I said earlier we can eat almost every single animal on the planet save for a few poisonous ones.
We can only eat a small number of plants

And yes we are Omnivores
We can survive on a vegan diet alone like the vegetarians
and we can survive an all meat diet like the Inuit.

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Years ago while at my mother in law's house for dinner, with other guests, she asked me "what kind of chicken do you think we're having tonight"? I replied, "dead chicken".

Seriously I agree wholeheartedly with the vegetarian idea. It is most sensible. I've decided to be as efficient as possible also so I eat concentrated, processed vegetable matter. Meat. What is the flesh of a steer anyway if not concentrated plant life? The bovine eats 100 lbs of grass and all that protein is contained in just one pound of flesh that four people benefit from in one sitting where otherwise each person would have to eat 25 lbs of ??? grass? hay?. Hey, that's what I call maximizing your food dollars and minimizing the wear and tear on your sphincters..

Anyone agree?

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I must say the pic is enougfh to turn anyone veggie.

Originally posted by MonteroReal
Lol, i suppose the vegetarian Hitler feel the same, a very very pure soul.

I usually ignore the Hitler posts in the veggie threads, but I'd like to throw this out there. Hitler wasn't a vegetarian. He ate more sausage than the most popular kid at figure skating camp.

Also..

Morell gave Hitler daily injections of various commercially prepared tonics containing animal by-products including Glyconorm, an injectable compound containing vitamins B1, B2 and C, cardiac muscle, adrenal gland, liver, and pancreas.

Other injected preparations contained placenta, bovine testosterone and extracts containing seminal vesicles and prostate to combat depression.

Injecting seminal vesicles is not vegetarian.

Originally posted by randyvs
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I must say the pic is enougfh to turn anyone veggie.

Ever shoveled veggie feces? Horse feces? Goose feces? It's sooooooooo healthy, all green and slimey, stink.

Get real. Hitler had a kill fetish because he was needing an aged, bone-in Ribeye.

This is easy. Lets say for example two equal groups of people are thrown into the wild 100's of miles from civilization. No stores, no natural grociers etc, No Vitamin Cottage. One group is allowed to hunt, bugs, birds, wild dog doesn't matter, the other, can only eat plants. which one will survive longer? DUH? And you really want to sit here and tell me we are designed to eat only plants. Find one village or tribe yet influenced by tech. I'm talking rural jungle people, with spears and bone neckless. YOU THINK THEY EAT ONLY PLANTS? DUH? NO? Your basically saying the human body either evolved or was designed to only eat plants before we ever realized that's what we were desigened for. Basically had unecesary function. "We eat meat, but evolved to really be meant to eat plants, though we still mostly eat meat. OOOOOOH, i get it.

Ok personally i'm mainly a carnivore but I will tell you my personal experience. My brother and his wife are both vegans and have been so for over a decade now. They are the healthiest people I personally know. In fact if they accidentally eat something with meat or animal proteins now they get sick. As for myself I would love to be a raw vegan,(due to a recent digging for truths and change in personal perspectives) but I really don't know if I could. I have a godlike metabolism and I don't know if I could get fat even if I ate nothing but lard. The only problem with me and being a vegan is as follows.

A. I can't get myself to eat any veggies unless mixed well enough where i don't taste them at all. I am hardcore meat and potatoes and have tuned my preference in food over the years to be so. Veggies literally make me gag a whole hell of alot.

B. I recently had some trouble which forced me to move back to my fathers house where it's mainly meat and potatoes. I don't have a job anymore so I couldn't buy the food to even try if I liked. So, my options are extremely limited. As for my father he is the hardcore meat and potatoes kinda guy that is set on his ways.

Becoming a vegan is definately a challenge I would like to eventually take on, but I am kind of scared to do. I'm a 26 yr guy that is 120 lbs on a terrible diet. If I became vegan I fear I would probably look like a skeleton. Hey I am still open to opinions and suggestions. Any way to ease someone like me who despises the taste of veggies pretty much period into this couldn't hurt.

by luck of birth i live where the supermarkets are stocked full. darn right i'm going to enjoy the yummies, and i'm thankful for every bite.

i learned the hard way: if you want to go Vegan, LEARN what you are doing first. learn all about nutrition, anatomy, vitamins & supplements, diets of other cultures. eat well my friends.

Originally posted by Vandalour
Various sources say that a chimp's diet is 95-99% plant foods, and the primary non-plant food isn't meat, it's termites.

I'm sorry, are you one of those vegetarian's that makes the distinction between one kind of animal and another? Like theones that say "I don't eat meat, but I like Fish!". My missus used to be like that, was an avowed veggie, but ate fish, chicken and bacon as she didn't see that as "meat". Very stupid!

I have now turned her completely to the dark side, so all is well..

So it's ok to eat termites but not cows? What is the difference? Their both living beings, so if you're going to get all moral about how bad it is to eat meat, either it's all bad or none of it is.

Termites aren't meat.... What a stupid thing to say.

Besides, all of the major primates eat meat and quite a bit of it too. Our digestive systems are designed to eat a varied diet, as are our teeth.

I am totally on board if people want to eat cabbage soup and lentils for the rest of their days, but what I don't like or understand is the militant Veggies who insist on ramming this quasi-fascist bull crap about how it's bad, or how we're not designed to eat it.. If you want to eat Broccoli sandwhiches, crack on, but I will eat meat and bloody well enjoy it too. Judging by the complexions and general health of the veggies I know, it seems it is you who is barking up the wrong tree.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Hitler was a vegetarian too apparently, coincidence? I think not.

Seriously? Don't you think that's a little exaggerated?

I can promise you that not eating meat does not cause one to want to invade Europe, start WW3, build death camps, kill tens of millions.

Comparing everything and everyone to Hitler banalizes what the Nazis did.

I have been a vegetarian for 3 months. In the beginning I felt better. I have probably detoxified my body bit, but after 3 months my sexual appetite went to zero. This was a no-no for me. I suppose, I was not eating all that is needed in a vegan/raw vegan diet in order to compensate the lack of meat. It is very difficult to keep a complete vegan/raw vegan in my opinion. It's too complex.
I guess meat just makes life easier.
I still have not find the answer to question if man is a vegan or an omnivore. And since this is a conspiracy forum, perhaps we will never find out what we are, because what if we have alien genes inside us? How can we then determine what we really are?

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Our early ancestors from at least four million years ago were almost exclusively vegetarian.

...And there have been 4 million years of evolution since then!
Our ancestors from this era were nothing like Homo Sapiens (our species), who appeared less than 100,000 years ago.

I do admire you courageous efforts to minimise the harm to animals, but I would recommend anyone considering becoming a vegetarian to consult with a dietician for the first year of their diet to ensure they are obtaining as much nutrition from their food as possible and supplementing everything else that is missing. Iron, B12, A, E, D and K2 are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Personally I believe that meat is a necessity as we have evolved to eat animal flesh, although we probably don't need to eat as much as some of us do.

Why is it that vegans/vegetarians always feel the need that they must change others.

You don't eat meat? Good for you,but please don't try to present 'facts' to try and persuade others to choose as you do.

Originally posted by splittheatom
Why is it that vegans/vegetarians always feel the need that they must change others.

You don't eat meat? Good for you,but please don't try to present 'facts' to try and persuade others to choose as you do.

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I've been out to dinner on a few occasions with a few different vegans. Same thing happens almost all the time. They want to draw this attention to themselves, they want to start an argument about it. Complain to the waitress/waiter of a poor selection of choices for vegans. Question on what others ordered and what they should of ordered. Make a big scene about it.

Then they make comments when you're trying to enjoy your meal. They go "Ugh, that thing was alive once" I just reply with "Yeah, that salad of yours had a nice life once as well before his whole family was harvested." They have this look of disgust and it's almost hard to enjoy the evening and company. I know inside they are craving my steak with enormous amounts of envy. Apart of me wants to ram the steak down their throat or even slap them across the face with the meat to shut them up. But, probably they would use meat eaters act like animals.

In my opinion, vegans are highly similar to certain christians I know. Pushy and debatable with-out any cause of my doing. My choices/views are totally wrong to them.

I will say this, yes we are naturally plant-eaters... however, we are also naturally meat-eaters, therefore we are naturally both-eaters.

my ancesetor hunted mammoth...

UHH! UHH! MEAT GOOOD!