If you believe in UFOs, why not believe in God?

excuse the memory space wasted in eliminating this post.

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If you read the sentence you initially quoted it said

No dude IMO Jesus is a myth

That's his opinion, not yours

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
NO!

Jesus was a Rosicrucian

The Secret Doctrines of Jesus by H. Spencer Lewis.
The Mystical Life of Jesus by H. Spencer Lewis

Harvey Spencer Lewis
en.wikipedia.org...

Of course... I expect you won't believe that

Perhaps one day the Vatican will release the true teachings of Jesus... Don't see it happening because the last Pope that was going to do that was assassinated...

But all the 'gods' of the past could just as easily be advanced aliens who came to Earth to help us along.

Some of em though, want you to worship them blindly, throw hissy fits when you dare to use free thinking and wipe everyone out with floods and such (even innocent little critters)

While some only want to help mankind like Prometheus who gave us fire to keep warm and cook our food, Lucifer, "bringer of Light" and that Reptilian that Eve chatted with (like it was the normal thing to do in those days to speak to serpents) and gave us knowledge.

It's all a matter of perspective really. There was a war back then involving many planets in our system. The evidence is in all religious texts..

I believe the war is still on going. I believe the bad guys won the last battle and for 2000 years we have been 'worshiping' the wrong team

"The Lord is thy Shepherd... Thou shall not want..."

That's right Little Sheep... The Church will maintain it's Flock... but don't forget that sometimes the Lamb is led to the slaughter house... and every good Shepherd FLEECES his Sheep regularly



The 'bad guy' is all about freedom of choice, having fun, song and dance and revelry...

The 'good guy' is all about death... Crusades, Jihad, Holy Wars, Inquisition... and for a time music and bathing were against god

Not hard for me to know which side is the true 'Evil One'

The green card is for the stupids, with some Nazi intentions for the
improvement of the American nation. The American apocypse is already
prepared.

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thanks for the clarity post retracted!

Originally posted by lioevilo
Although, there has been many, many, people who have seen ufos, there is no concrete proof that they do exist.

I hope you meant that there's no concrete proof that aliens are visiting Earth which would be correct.

There is proof that people see things in the sky and they don't know what they are, which is more or less the definition of a UFO.

So I'd say there is concrete proof of UFOs, but no concrete proof they are alien.

Carl Sagan says near the end of this video that he thinks many beliefs about UFOs being benevolent ETs ARE in fact the modern form of religious belief, because aliens are scientifically possible since there's proof of us and proof of so many other stars, and it's harder to believe in traditional religion anymore, according to Sagan:

Originally posted by heineken
many i think confuse God with Jesus, its a fact that any religion based upon the Son of God coming to Earth would crumble once Alien life is confirmed out there..

Why do you think they used to burn those who said that the Stars seen in the sky were Suns like our very own....because this also meant that there are many but many worlds like our own ..all with their own Jesus and Mohammed....or how can you explain that the Son of God has chosen Planet Earth from all the trillion billions planets out there ??? or did the Son of God repeated his story on every Planet???

but since then the Story of the Son of God coming to Earth stays..and bring Wars, Death, Corruption, Fear....this is not meant to offend in any way many of those who practice or represent in any form their religion they have no fault in this

maybe thats why Disclosure has not yet happened who knows.....or maybe thats why we arrived up to the moon and never went further...compare it to anything you know in life...a computers used to be big aas much as 2 rooms, you all recall how mobile phones used to be...i remember my first CD Writer used to take all night to copy a CD with 80% chance of success...this is humanity..always evolving...not in space exploration though which makes me so sad

i believe that religions did interfere with Space Exploration.

this is my opinion and i believe thats why many well knows brainers dont like religion.

God is another thing...i believe there is a creator of the universe..not that he is caring on every individual in the universe...but who can figure out what behind such an amazing invention...but again the story of the son of god coming to earth doesnt fit with the model of a universe full of life.

edit on 19-1-2011 by heineken because: my english is horrible but my maltese is great

OP i put alot of effort in this post to just ignore it like that..

i expect more respect and debate from a fellow member

i would like you to imagine Alien life exists and the universe hosts billions of trillions of planets like ours..

how would you explain the Son of Gods visitation

if this question is too harsh to grasp then dont even bother looking for answers....the truth briigs changes and changes bring fear

Originally posted by heineken
i would like you to imagine Alien life exists and the universe hosts billions of trillions of planets like ours..

how would you explain the Son of Gods visitation

He is an eternal being that can incarnate within in all creations in his fathers little universe...

Proof would or will be any religious relations from GOOD E.T or alien BAD species. Different names ginven to DIVINE but still offspring of the CREATOR of ALL.

to better balance the Fallenz of course

Also the known (little) universe to Earth inhabitants isnt as busy as it seems as many of the galaxies are the same galaxies taken pics of multiple times in different locations. So the images seen are light transmitted visuals of past located galaxcies...
Remain FEARLESS YOU SHOULD ONLY FEAR GOD AND HE WISHES YOU NOT TO FEAR. JUST ACKNOWLEDGE!

My opinion - is just that... an opinion. With that being said, I believe in spirituality rather than a single god. As far as UFO's go, I believe there is something out there. I have seen examples of both with my own eyes. Nothing I could prove, but I did experience it on both accounts.(nothing life altering) It's kind of a valid question though. It does make one think.

Because other life forms make sense.

A more reasonable question would be: If you believe in God, why don't you believe in Santa Claus and Eastern Bunny?

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lol, Hi Hhcore my (chat buddy) even though I havent received enough points or threads to enter chat (one day they will let me in) I look forward to and appreciate your input. thanks. :

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by heineken
i would like you to imagine Alien life exists and the universe hosts billions of trillions of planets like ours..

how would you explain the Son of Gods visitation

He is an eternal being that can incarnate within in all creations in his fathers little universe...

Proof would or will be any religious relations from GOOD E.T or alien BAD species. Different names ginven to DIVINE but still offspring of the CREATOR of ALL.

to better balance the Fallenz of course

edit on 1/19/11 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)

OP its is easier to believe in Nibiru than such a person you described..

so you are stating that the story of the cross was repeated over and over in different alien forms and on different worlds..am i right??

if you dontstate that then if you remove the cross from the story ..what is left about Jesus???

i dont want to hurt anybody feelings with my post..if its the case someone please advise..


but religion dserves to be a tough topic..you can look around you and find something reminding you of it in everyone's house..so helll yes its a tough topic..and it is built upon fear of God, fear of Hell, so yes its tough

I can see humans and other species of animals. It's easier for me to believe that there's another specie out there in the unimaginable vast space known as the universe.. Which to me, is well, inevitable. Not sure if they've come to Earth though.

What I have a hard time believing is an all-knowing 'being' out there that made everything. There aren't any other beings that we can compare this to, like a specie of animals. It's a single idea, with nothing to back it up, nothing to compare it to.

but still OP i would like you to do your best effort in evaluating my points and reply accordingly

Originally posted by jessejamesxx
I can see humans and other species of animals. It's easier for me to believe that there's another specie out there in the unimaginable vast space known as the universe.. Which to me, is well, inevitable. Not sure if they've come to Earth though.

What I have a hard time believing is an all-knowing 'being' out there that made everything. There aren't any other beings that we can compare this to, like a specie of animals. It's a single idea, with nothing to back it up, nothing to compare it to.

+1

Originally posted by jessejamesxx
I can see humans and other species of animals. It's easier for me to believe that there's another specie out there in the unimaginable vast space known as the universe.. Which to me, is well, inevitable. Not sure if they've come to Earth though.

What I have a hard time believing is an all-knowing 'being' out there that made everything. There aren't any other beings that we can compare this to, like a specie of animals. It's a single idea, with nothing to back it up, nothing to compare it to.

What if one of those 'species' was a hyper dimensional being? And I am not ruling out that the majority of religions on planet earth today could have been based on a visit from a being able to do miraculous things.

Wasn't it Arthur C. Clarke that said "Any technology sufficiently advance will be indistinguishable from magic?"

Humanity lives in 3 dimensional world. I won't discount a being that can operate in multiple dimensions, just because our primitive science can't detect them as of yet.

Is that being 'God'? Maybe to our primitive understanding. But maybe it is. A being so far advanced he can manipulate the laws of physics as we know them.

I think humanity gives themselves more credit than they deserve for the understanding of the universe.....