Comet Elenin is coming!

reply to post by defcon5

If a comet were indefinitely allowed to fly in space while venting, without some other outside force acting on it to make it fracture, it would eventually shed all its material until it was nothing but a scattered debris trail.

Not necessarily.

Catastrophic breakups may be the ultimate fate of most comets," explained Hal Weaver, a planetary astronomer of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, in a statement.

www.space.com...

What about the rest? The ones that don't break up?

Though this particular body is actively shedding dust, WISE is also expected to find dark, dead comets. Once a comet has taken many trips around the sun, its icy components erode away, leaving only a dark, rocky core. Not much is known about these objects because they are hard to see in visible light. WISE's infrared sight should be able to pick up the feeble glow of some of these dark comets, answering questions about precisely how and where they form.

"Dead comets can be darker than coal," said Mainzer. "But in infrared light, they will pop into view. One question we want to answer with WISE is how many dead comets make up the near-Earth object population."

www.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by SunnyDee

Originally posted by randyvs

Here I've retrived A's image for you. Now you can see the same image is in all three and there is an untold number of the same, I can bring as many as you like in a contrast of different colors, but the image itself is a constant.

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Now where did DJ go ?

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Still waiting for documentation on this image too. Hmmm.

It's CW Leonis as recorded by IRAS. The distribution of IRAS data used by google sky is simply a reprocessing of the original IRAS data (in the original dataset it is not surrounded by a black halo).
simbad.u-strasbg.fr...
skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by Pauligirl
Comet Elenin will pass very close to STEREO-B in July 2011. See the orbit simulation here.
secchi.nrl.navy.mil...

This is genuinely interesting...
Stereo B will give us a heads up on what this comet Elenin really is.
Can't wait until July.

reply to post by goodsamaritan


It really is a comet...

reply to post by pscinet

Earlier this month, an advanced energy researcher disclosed information on the decline in dark energy density that began in the early 1980s and has accelerated through today. The rudimentary chart shown in the video was created from the four data points provided during the same conversation.

If you're going to invent data out of whole cloth, please exert a little effort and make up more than four data points.

Originally posted by redoubt

Comet Elenin has already started talk again about the comet mentioned in the Nostradamus quatrains that will, supposedly, shed a quarter-mile diameter shard that will then impact our planet in the area of the Azores.

This impact will then cripple much of Europe and the east coast of North America, leaving the path open for the Muslim horde led by the Mahdi.

The entire sequence was originally supposed to begin in August (or October)of 1999, when the comet is seen by way of an eclipse. But calendars being what they are and our inexact keep of time, the focus is now on Elenin as that harbinger.

In closing, a quarter-mile (one stadia) comet fragment striking along the mid-Atlantic ridge around the Azores would cause all kinds of problems, including tsunamis, earthquakes, floods and retransitting pieces of our own planet.

This is news to me ... I am a Nostradamus fan, and had not come across this before; can you tell me which quatrains? .. Please? Is there a Nostradamus Forum?

Some videos on You Tube say that the Chili quake moved some aqua firs, and there are other things earth-moving attributed to the Brown Dwarf//Comet Elenin!! Including Japan's 9.0 Quake!!

These are my links on You Tube to the better Videos (so far)::

Here are the items I have posted on FB... I am lost on how to 'embed' on ATS, so only links, sorry:

I am coming to believe in Elenin, though the damages will ruin large sections of the planet if it is, and that I dread.


A good video with a ton of links, I don't want to "join his survival group", but his research looks OK.

Elenin Dwarf Star Warning


This video maker may have confused his 2007 infrared star objects, I am not certain, there is a video which clarifies other near items in infrared: Thing is -- he went back and looked!

Is Elenin a comet (or not)

This video makes much clear and shows how to use satellite imagery from NASA .. .. he is careful and clear and after you view it, you can go and check for yourself .. very thorough!!

Elenin and much more


The 'shed full of followers' video: .. called comets and asteroids, but maybe moons and asteroids? .. and the planet may be "The Planet of Crossing" (Sumerian) -- while the first act is the dwarf star (at absolute zero degrees) with great mass, emitting particles, making gravity troughs, and etc (see first video) which in alignment, caused the big quakes (Terral03) we have seen recently:

Three comets (moons?) and four asteroids


November 9 (comet/brown dwarf closest on Nov 22) -- " ... the federal government has decided to conduct the first-ever national test of the Emergency Alert System."

FEMA will take over the airways on ...


I have read enough about Sumeria (not much Sitchin) to know that one did not mess with them!!
Gilgamesh was less appetizing as a king than Hitler, Stalin or worse, .. he was much worse!! Uruk was cool.
So .. we may not be liking our "contact" with the destroyer and the followers, and if there is a 'planet of crossing' .. it may have regrettable aspects as well.

If this is a real thing (and some believe it is) we will have a very, very rough go of it ... esp. if it is Typhon returned .. full of Naptha, rocks, and other noxious items!! ..
One post says it has a trail of debris behind it in space which is hundreds of miles long!! .. Quite a bit of baggage to off load .. but then Typhon had tons of rock to throw down on us before!!

reply to post by Serendipity7

This is news to me ... I am a Nostradamus fan, and had not come across this before; can you tell me which quatrains?

Probably not, because people make up new Nostradamus prophesies every day.

Please go back and re-read this thread, all of the claims in the videos you link to have been debunked at length. If you know anything about the Sumerians, you know their astronomical knowledge was negligible; it was the Babylonians who were the star gazers.

Elenin's orbital elements were updated again on June 24 at the JPL Small-Body Database:

Closest approach to Earth: 2011-Oct-16 19:51, +/-

So what do you all think of this opinion in this video. The guy shows that other comets in the JPL similator show a nice even arc through our solar system, but Elenin makes sharp cornered adjustments.

In the video above, the speaker also mentions an earth alignment with Elenin and two other planets, coinciding with a government test being run nationally for 3 and 1/2 minutes on all broadcasting entities. Just more fuel for the mystery that is Elenin! And yes, I know DJW, Chad, Phage....it's just a plain little comet. Still can't help finding the whole thing a little more than interesting.

www.commlawcenter.com...

reply to post by SunnyDee

So what do you all think of this opinion in this video. The guy shows that other comets in the JPL similator show a nice even arc through our solar system, but Elenin makes sharp cornered adjustments.

He refers to the other comets' orbits as "circular." They are not, they are elliptical. C2010 X-1's orbital parameters have not yet been firmly established. It may be hyperbolic, in which case it will never return.The "angles" in the orbital plot are due to the limitations of the software. If you zoom out far enough the curve looks much smoother.

The orbit isn't hyperbolic. The comet passed 2.66 AU from Saturn in December 2008, and it will pass 2.40 AU from Jupiter on the outbound leg of its orbit. Not particularly close, but enough to reduce the orbital period to roughly 11700 years.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by SunnyDee

 

So what do you all think of this opinion in this video. The guy shows that other comets in the JPL similator show a nice even arc through our solar system, but Elenin makes sharp cornered adjustments.

He refers to the other comets' orbits as "circular." They are not, they are elliptical. C2010 X-1's orbital parameters have not yet been firmly established. It may be hyperbolic, in which case it will never return.The "angles" in the orbital plot are due to the limitations of the software. If you zoom out far enough the curve looks much smoother.

I don't know, something about your comment does not sit right with me. Yeah, the guy in the video said circular, but I knew what he meant and changed the wording for more accuracy to arc. The point of the subject being that other comets are showing smooth movement on the JPL similator, whereas Elenin shows hard angles.

Also you say Elenin parameters have not been firmly established, yet the accuracy of it's flight is something deniers of something more to Elenin use to prove it is nothing and going to pass by quietly. Just seems strange that JPL can plot smoothly one comet(Honda for instance) but not Elenin. It's pretty close at this point, it seems like they could be pretty sure of it's path.

reply to post by SunnyDee


You're comparing two very different things when you compare Honda and Elenin. Honda is a very short period comet, with it coming by us every 6 years. Elenin on the other hand is at the very least a very long-period comet. I'm not sure what it's eccentricity is now, but at times it was over 1. If it remains over 1, that means that this will be its only trip through our solar system. If it does drop below 1, its eccentricity will still be very high meaning that it will have an orbital period of at least several thousand years.

reply to post by SunnyDee


I think the JPL Java applet doesn't do great with hyperbolic comets. While it's possible Elenin may not remain hyperbolic by the time is passes Jupiter, it currently is. Take, for instance, comet C/2009 R1:



Or C/2007 F1:



Both of these are hyperbolic comets and both exhibit the poor curve fitting with the representation of the orbit we see with Elenin.

reply to post by nataylor


Thanks for the info, that helped explain it better. You too ExCal.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Serendipity7

 

This is news to me ... I am a Nostradamus fan, and had not come across this before; can you tell me which quatrains?

Probably not, because people make up new Nostradamus prophesies every day.

Please go back and re-read this thread, all of the claims in the videos you link to have been debunked at length. If you know anything about the Sumerians, you know their astronomical knowledge was negligible; it was the Babylonians who were the star gazers.

Funny, because people make up new B.S. everyday too. You should please go back and re-read your history. It appears sir that your claim itself has been debunked...

"The history of astronomy in Mesopotamia, and the world, begins with the Sumerians who developed the earliest writing system—known as cuneiform—around 3500–3200 BC. The Sumerians developed a form of astronomy that had an important influence on the sophisticated astronomy of the Babylonians."
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Gerizo

Funny, because people make up new B.S. everyday too. You should please go back and re-read your history. It appears sir that your claim itself has been debunked...

Our knowledge of Sumerian astronomy is indirect, via the earliest Babylonian star catalogues dating from about 1200 BCE....

During the 8th and 7th centuries BCE, Babylonian astronomers developed a new empirical approach to astronomy. They began studying philosophy dealing with the ideal nature of the universe and began employing an internal logic within their predictive planetary systems. This was an important contribution to astronomy and the philosophy of science, and some scholars have thus referred to this new approach as the first scientific revolution

Your own source.

There are no extant Sumerian astronomical works. Not one. The only reason we know they even looked at the sky is because they had names for a few constellations and some of the planets, which were passed on to the Akkadians as cuneiform glyphs. They did count in base twelve, which I assume means you think they had six fingers on each hand, proving they are aliens.

Those "hard angles" prove only one thing.......that the Java Applet at the JPL website is useless for accurate study of comet orbits. No natural object in orbit around anything turns sharp corners as it moves.