Comet Elenin is coming!

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Check out down lower on this page, the conversation dated October 2001. Talks about a pole shift due to comets in next 10 years. Pretty crazy stuff here, but intersting none the less. Don't know how much trust yo can put into these "conversations" but I willing to add it to my library of knowledge for later disection.

reply to post by SunnyDee


Yes I read down to the bottom. It sure is crazy stuff
But I'm guessing anything is possible, we are always finding out new things every day.

reply to post by boo1981


The sane part of me says. Mm Cassiopeians eh? OK move along.

The not so sane part of me says

Given that my OP was from information provided by this woman I wonder. Is the 500km a 'guess', a 'doom' prediction or a 'leak'?

I still find it odd that we have no idea of the size of this lady (Elenin not Laura Knight Jadczyk!)

reply to post by PuterMan


So far that is the only site giving a size for this thing. But, if you look at MPC site, they don't give sizes for any of the comets. Not that I can read from that site, anyway.

So maybe comets are not so easy to size up, unlike asteroids?

ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...
Physical Parameters
Physical parameters for comets are not well known primarily because these bodies are too small for ground-based observing when the comet is far enough from the sun that its coma does not shroud its surface. The only parameters determined for nearly all comets are their magnitude parameters (M1,K1 and/or M2,K2). However, a few comets have other parameters determined including rotation period, and geometric albedo. Known physical parameters for any given small body are are available from our small-body browser.

Guess it's true, they don't typically give actual sizes for comets.

reply to post by PuterMan


I would fully have to agree with you on that statement. Part of me wants to laugh out load and say what a bunch of crazy people they are.

And the other part of me wants to go hold on a minute did they...did...was that.....500km

All jokes aside, I too find it very strange and worrying that they still haven't given us a size of Elenin. Could an amateur sky watcher with a good telescope find Elenin and figure out the size of it???? Just and idea, I myself haven't a clue on how to find stuff up there or even if its possible to find a comet with an amateur telescope

Has anyone looked at the name "Elenin" and determined the significance? From what I can tell it's akin to "Eleven" and "Eleven" i.e."11" has some deep esoteric meanings.

reply to post by Spydaman13


I think a couple of people have talked about the significance of the name Elenin. If you browse through this thread I'm sure you will find something about it

reply to post by boo1981


I know the name seems crazy significant, but it was (the comet) discovered by Leonid Elenin. (Unless he's a made up, person just to add to some conspriacy).

It is funny his name though. Leonid-no brainer- like the meteor showers, then then Elenin. Put together-his parents sure had a sense of irony.

reply to post by boo1981


You might be interested in this thread on thunderbolts where the 'electric' nature of Elenin is discussed. In particular scroll to the last post and have a read, actually the last 2 posts i think it was.

Thunderbolts.info

Something that concerns me,.
Where are all the junior astronomers?
Why is this not being spotted by anyone else and why is this not in the media yet.
Do we have an exact location on this,.
I can look for it as I have access to a nice scope.

reply to post by PuterMan

From Puterman's last link:
More interesting aspects to this comet, the comet has at 380000 year orbit which could allow it to be extremely negatively charged, which would have a possibly negative effect on our electrical grids and systems.

Hate to say it, but somewhere in those Laura Knight J. conversations it mentioned electrically charged comets. Can't find it again right now.

reply to post by SunnyDee


Yes indeed electric! Now this is a problem area for the mainstream astronomers but the more I read about it the more it makes so much more sense that the mainstream theory.

Take a look at this: My electric universe page

I have just been reading about the shuttle Columbia disaster, and I present a link here as it too has more elements of this electric universe in it. Even the scientists call the lower ionosphere the "ignorosphere" which just inspires me with confidence.

Independent study: Columbia disaster

It is a long article but WELL worth a full read and mentions meteorites producing sprites and other electrical phenomena. (It will be clearer after you have read it)

It is significant to my mind that in that article you will find reference to lightning which was only thought to happen under clouds. When photographs of lightning above the clouds were taken, as the article says it 'overturned 200 years of "scientific certainty", in an instant'. Nothing is certain in science of this nature and ones mind should always be open to new possibilities.

By the way there is a link at the end to a download of a PDF of the article.

This is a really nice find!
I'll have to keep myself informed...

reply to post by PuterMan


Thank you very much for the link to ThunderBolt. Very good read and a lot more scientific information that i can believe more.

I found these comments very interesting:

If astronomers claims with respect to the orbit are reasonably accurate, one thing we should expect is the likelihood of a rather impressive display, more than would be expected under the usual theoretical assumptions. As we get more details about the comet, it could indeed be a good test of EU comet theory. Well worth following. Of course, if we brush the tail, measurable atmospheric effects might be expected, but certainly not Doomsday.

Planetary encounters in the past are a much different matter than a close approach to a body a billionth of the size of Earth. What would make it interesting at all is the electric force, so much more powerful than gravity.

I don't expect the comet under discussion to be like the events described in WiC. But a period of 38,000 years Implies a very negative charge. This could produce events like the Chicago fire, New Madrid earthquake or Tunguska. This could be a problem for the electric grid we depend on. Also printed circuits could melt locally. These events have all been within 200 years. They are common. They appear to be the result of comet fragments. Without the grid, modern cities could be problematic at best. Without printed circuits most vehicles are just pieces of useless metal. This event will probably be a big yawn, I hope. But I will avoid L A. and other large cities if this comet doesn't change course. I've discussed this with a couple of EU insiders who both think this COULD be a problem. Not will be, but could be. We have made ourselves vulnerable thinking our universe is electricly neutral. You have taught me it's not.

During the Chicago fire event wrought iron railings glowed with St. Elmo's fire in Illinois and Wisconsin. See the TPOD. I believe New Madrid had plasma like descriptions from journalists. Same with Tunguska. These appear to be plasma events, IMHO.

A highly negatively charged comet COULD effect the Sun. CME's have occurred during comet approaches I believe. I'd supply links but I'm in the desert using my iPhone. No wifi.

Again, the only danger I think see is electric. And it's a long shot.

So I now need to go read up on all the above and try to get my head round it! It is all very interesting and has given me much to think about our lady Elenin.

reply to post by PuterMan


Good information and heres more
www.nasa.gov...

WASHINGTON -- Scientists using NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope have detected beams of antimatter produced above thunderstorms on Earth, a phenomenon never seen before.

Would ,could antimatter be involved in a close fly by of a comet eletro charging past earth.Makes ya think !
Never mind we learn more everyday,Tungaska here we come..

They just did a recalculation today

Calculated closest approach distances:
Nominal distance: 0.233155915194319 AU
Minimum distance: 0.229383618994798 AU
Maximum distance: 0.236937382250822 AU

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Just a fraction closer than before. So at 2 updates a month............

Just found the previous data
Calculated closest approach distances:
Nominal distance: 0.252205086549901 AU
Minimum distance: 0.224512905071845 AU
Maximum distance: 0.280442138349147 AU

reply to post by PuterMan
Just a bit closer (cue the scream)
well that is already a big Hmmmmmmmmm

www.google.com... jCNHZgtwmh53T7wT8sBH_Hn5Czkimvw
watch the video of the planet getting close to the earth.

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


That was set up for the movie 2012. Not sure what it does now.

By the way the date for us passing behind Elenin is changed as well. It was the 6th and is now the 4th. That is a big change is it not?

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reply to post by PuterMan


No biggie then
Just a fraction closer, just a tiny ickle bit closer!

No wonder there is no media on Elenin and size. Imagine if they put that on the 5 o'clock news. I think people would start to panic. Thank goodness for ATS otherwise id be a tad bit worried now
The next few months shall be very interesting indeed.



Edit: Just looked again at your post and noticed the previous calculations.

Yeah I know,. but it was fun to watch,.
A little theatrics makes it a bit more interesting