Comet Elenin is coming!

Is it true that Elenin is 50km wide???

reply to post by borutp


I certainly hope not!

I guess that you are referring to the information that comets can be up to 50km wide, but so far I have found no information on it's supposed size.

reply to post by PuterMan


i got a script virus reading this thread hmmmm weird

Originally posted by borutp
Is it true that Elenin is 50km wide???

The fact that somebody out there, does know what the size of this puppy is. Damn sure isn't helping me feel any better. In fact the media isn't saying anything at all. Although the public is beginning to hear about it. Thanks to ATS..I think I can see why too.
If the Media does their ackknowledgement, then they have to ask all the right/wrong questions. it's just to early to come out and say. Alright it's true, there's a three mile wide comet, that is going to make land fall in the U.S.
Sometime in september or october. Can you imagine?

reply to post by Evanzsayz


I don't see how that is possible but you should report that to the Administrators.

Could it have been from something linked off the thread?

Take a look at this .pdf that shows a map of the earth's magnetic field as of 2005.

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If you look closely, you will see that the north has one clearly defined pole whereas the south has two distinct poles. Seems logical to me that if the field were to go through a sudden and rapid oscillation(i.e. pole shift), something like the separation of one or both of the poles would be a precursor event.

Would like to see if there's a more recent version of this map that shows how much the overall field has wandered; we know of one major airport that has to rest it's markings in order to accommodate the difference from when they were originally installed. Come to think of it, when was that airport built? I'm gonna have to look this up now...

Indeed, it would be most enlightening if we were able to view a time lapse view over as many years because I suspect that we would see as much variation and range of change as we witness in the sun

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Originally posted by PuterMan

There are only two possible reasons for this seed bank

1) To maintain original and viable seeds for a restart if seed genetics goes haywire

2) To maintain original and viable seeds for a restart in the event of a imminent major catastrophe.

How about to restock populations of wild plants that have gone (or are close to going) extinct?

More Than One-Fifth of World's Plants Face Threat of Extinction, New Analysis Finds

If anything, I think the loss of diversity of species (both animal and plant), is more of a threat than any sudden cataclysm that is likely to befall us. It's a disaster that already has our name on it, unlike the impact threat. That said, we should not underestimate the impact threat either, and I think we should make it a priority to be prepared for anything that might come along and cause serious damage.

reply to post by PuterMan


i dont know i was just reading comments and it popped up might not be a big deal could of been on the machine already

reply to post by C.H.U.D.


Whilst I think that could also be a possible reason there are some considerations here such as, if the habitat that engenders the growth of a natural plant has been despoiled, removed by cultivation, or by over-farming and chemicals or hit by a comet (just to keep this on topic) then other than the last scenario no amount of 'banked' seed would permit the regrowth as the loss of habit would preclude it. (If that sentence made sense)

A small impact could create an area that might need re-seeding, but an area small enough to require that would probably re-generate anyway so I am not so convinced that is for the purposes of preserving natural flora.

Looking up details on the ubiquitous Wikipedia it would seem that I am possibly right.

The NGB has deposited more than 10,000 seed samples of more than 2,000 cultivars of 300 different species over the years

This would seem to indicate a reserve of cultivated varieties rather than the original native base stock.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


I have to thank you for the link to the images (PDF files). Most interesting.

I don't see any particular connection to Elenin in this but as regards variations in the magnetic field, yes you would se many. There are apparently many places in the Southern Hemisphere where North breaks through and vice versa.

reply to post by PuterMan


Associative thinking. Don't remember exactly which post it was though. It probably isn't related directly and I'm just getting confused between several differend threads I'm reading around here.

At it's closest it will be nearly 36 million kilometres away?That's a good reason to panic...

Have I missed something?

reply to post by borutp


In Deep Impact, the comet was the sizse of Texas. I'd like to say that dosn't mean anything. Anyone who's gone thru this thread would know that's B.S. Obama should start calling the troops home, any day now..

Originally posted by Ericthedoubter
At it's closest it will be nearly 36 million kilometres away?That's a good reason to panic...

Have I missed something?

yes u have

those calculations are based upon certain variables
that cannot be completely specific.

When Elenin reaches the sun's gravity and
shoots around the sun, it may vary other
than what is projected. So those preliminary
calculations are subject to change as Elenin
skirts around the sun. It's true path cannot
really be determined at this point. Certain portions
of the comet may also break off before it hits the sun's
gravity. If it changes size, that also will change
it's trajectory. This is another factor which cannot be
determined at this point. There are just too many
unknowns at present.

reply to post by boondock-saint


I think you summed that up brilliantly.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
When Elenin reaches the sun's gravity and
shoots around the sun, it may vary other
than what is projected.

Elenin is already under the influence of the sun's gravity, and it always is. Comets, like all other objects in the solar system (exepting for the rare occasional rouge object from another solar system), are orbiting around our sun. That means the encounter we have with it is 100% predictable, given 100% accurate observations, and does not have a close encounter with any other relatively large objects. When predictions like this are made, they even take into account the gravity of all the large known solar system objects that might have a gravitational influence on it.

This is a small update on the comet elenin possibly striking the earth. Not too much new information though ....

scienceray.com...

Several resources have mentioned that when ELEnin goes through the asteroid belt it is possible something there could change its trajectory, so I'd say this is definitely something to watch in March, not just the fall.

I have been looking all over for it's size. No mention anywhere, why? That bothers me.

There is a third reason for the seed bank and that is the terminator gene.

I wonder if the best thing that could happen in terms of stopping the current trend to human self destruction would be a leveled playing field.

reply to post by randyvs
I was just a bit perturbed by the comments,.thats all,.
Thanks,.
This thread is a trip,. and it will be even more interesting in the following months,.
I can hardly imagine what is to come,.
And yes,. a big thanks to Puterman for finding this one,.
I see google is really picking up on Elenin,. eventually this one will hit the MSM at this rate..