UFO DISCLOSURE Blocked by Government High Treason !

Originally posted by Getsmart


Getsmart

edit on 17-1-2011 by Getsmart because: disclosure has to happen before we get taken over by an Alien Invasion from HELL.

The truth can be blocked for many reasons. I am sure if they came forward with UFO information, no one would hold anyone accountable. As far as black Ops, They do spend a lot of our tax dollars, but I they are in development and and experimentation, Popular Science said it best, "whatever we have main stream, the government is at least 75 years ahead of us"

I am well versed in history, please prove your source on invoking Demons through portholes. I strongly disagree on that.


I see absolutely no proof of Alien harvesting. People do just find killing themselves on their own.

The reason for a possible UFO cover up is simple, knowledge is power. Reverse engineering to gain technologies, which, I look forward to hopefully someday getting to play with those high tech toys they have.

If you look at actual written history, not just some of it, but all of it, it would seem that they have been here all along, but have long since gone, what we do now, is up to us. If you go off written history, and we were given a genetic boost forward in their image, then you only need to look in the mirror to see what they look like. I look nothing like a reptile ....

If you observe a craft emerging from nowhere, or see one disappear, its only due to an observer stand point. If a craft is capable of going from 0 to 6000 mph in a split second, to the observer, it would appear to literally disappear. I believe 99% of what we see in our skies, is man made. Sure, they keep it secret, yes it is wrong to do so, But their are no demons emerging from stargates, sorry.

One has to be realistic when it comes to technology, machines, advanced sciences and hidden agenda's, or even Alien beings. If we take the obvious over the deep end, we are just spreading mis-information. Governments don't need to say anything about what they do, we do just fine spreading mis-information on our own.

reply to post by Anthony1138
Who are you to decide what is real or not??? I tell you I am more confident in the Bible that clearly states about satan and entities and history showing over and over again demons and satan are real. Y ou are in no position to throw curveballs; Realize people do know the difference, i SUPPOSE we should believe your expert opinion over centuries of facts!

Originally posted by condition9
reply to post by Anthony1138

 

Who are you to decide what is real or not??? I tell you I am more confident in the Bible that clearly states about satan and entities and history showing over and over again demons and satan are real. Y ou are in no position to throw curveballs; Realize people do know the difference, i SUPPOSE we should believe your expert opinion over centuries of facts!

You do know where the bible came ....correct ? If not, go back about 2 to 4 thousand years before Christianity and catch up on history, you will find a great more detail on the biblical stories that were left out of the old and new testaments. They make a lot more sense as well ...

reply to post by Anthony1138

Reading your radical opinions on the op I for one do believe what he says and I believe several others are very interested as well I really do not understand how YOU have any right or even enough time on ats to start demanding people to close their threads!! You should take that over-estimated opinion of yourself and start the toilet flush!! Do you get my drift????

Originally posted by TheFlash

It sounds as though you have gotten rather defensive, hostile and off topic. There is no need for such negativity. I would appreciate it if you would communicate with me with the same civility and politeness I show to you.

You seem to have lost all perspective of where you are and that this is a free wheeling conspiracy forum discussion thread. One's posting here is strictly voluntary, and no response, reply or answer can ever be demanded nor expected of anyone else. It is a place where one chooses to share and explore together, not to plunder for information and push people around.

I was quite polite, especially considering your absence of graciousness after I spent more than an hour partially fulfilling your first request. Clearly that courtesy was wasted on you, as you apparently are not seeking to further anyone's understanding, only to debunk. So I am pretty much done with expending time and energy on you, given your condescending attitude.

Originally posted by TheFlash

In addition you did not answer my question. Is it difficult for you to understand why your answer did not address my question? I was referring to your "conclusion" that "Evoking Demons = Opening Stargates", yet in your reply there was not a single mention of demons. I saw in one of your earlier replies that you referred to years of studying demons. I am not asking for the complete material. I will be happy with a few strong facts that serve as good evidence for your conclusion.

I really could not care less anymore about whether you are happy or frustrated. I explained this in my last post, which you apparently either didn't care to read or simply examined for conformity to your demands. You have outlived your welcome with me. Your loss and my gain of time, energy and friendly contact with considerate and congenial members.

Originally posted by TheFlash

Regarding "editorializing" I am referring to your personal feelings and mpm-factual material that is not relevant to the question asked. The Random House Dictionary (© Random House, Inc. 2011) defines it as:

It is much better to stick to facts and leave out the editorializing when trying to make a point as I pointed out earlier. I hope you understand better now.

I understand perfectly well. For example that I am not a soldier in your platoon. You're way out of line telling me how to express myself. I will formulate my thoughts and communicate with others any way I deem fit.

You are so arrogant you failed to capture too subtle a message. I simply quoted the word followed by a question mark: "editorialize?" to give you the opportunity to reassess your statement and possibly measure the extent to which you were out of line. You failed to question yourself when you incessantly interrogate others. Not a good sign.

Your Photobucket account links to this photo next to the above. Is this what awaits whoever doesn't comply with your data demands in a timely manner? That would explain a lot.

AK47 Yugo Ammo 762393


Backed Up Image in case of deletion of original


GS

reply to post by Getsmart

What you have all so fullishly forgot to concure about is that high treason has been inudiated in about 5 different periodicles, at least when you should at the most take a very very seriously look at the evidence. Think about it? Birds are dying at grand levals. pilets are dying. clearly the evidence is high for high treason. JUST AS THE AUTHER WROTE. For once more think a second time about the many posts of high treason here on the forem. Should you look you should find MORE evidence. What was every body saying when they said that they didn't think that there was enuf evidence? Also there is the evidence of popuation subtracting because of the bees. This again is high treason very high because when the bees will die there will be no more food to eat. In suclucition, ALL of every little information is here on the above top secret.
Good job!

reply to post by VI0811

I am very haappy with my beliefs and knowledge also from my own experiences which I no doubt know would over shadow yours, T he Bible is real as are GOD and satan learn to accept this reality in the face of future events I am sure the satanic nwo loves the non-believers and skeptics as they are great targets!

To Getsmart Again to let you know I have researched these areas myself for years with manyviewpoints you are on target in a great many ways there is a great deal more here that is connected and involved I am certain we are not going to get the full story no matter what! The videos are good tools the dulce govt. experiments are serious eye-openers and deserves more investigation . The ones involved in this is guilty and as has been should be prosecuted and the whole monumental orgy of horror with pedophiles, satanic rituals, alien food harvesting humans not to mention the clones! We are under serious threats and it has been stated and we have been warned however where is the full body of humans that are going to make sure this will never happen??

Originally posted by letmeDANz

i have not completely checked out all the links you have listed, but i get the jist.
If what the elites are doing or not is not my concern, but i think you are right that aliens & inter dimensional beings are one and the same.

Besides, it is very natural for a higher advanced civilization to conduct experiments/tests on lower being.

look at us, we are constantly trying new things on lab rats and the sort.

So if there was a far advanced civilization - good or evil, this is something we can not escape

Hi Let Me DANz,


By the way, those links are not fundamental in any way to the first post of the thread. I only provided them because of people shocked that I had provided NO LINKS. My perspective on this situation is not drawn out of a book or some video. So I cannot simply insert a link and say "There you have it: gift-wrapped evidence."


Since many were either new to ATS or had researched one area more than another, I made the larger follow up posts to present a number of facets of the situation analyzed from several standpoints. I made every attempt to rapidly find links (these were not prepared in advance) to give a bit of sketchy guidance to those who might be interested in seeing if there was a potential correspondence between these approaches. I screened them as best I may upon short notice - the time frame was less than the 4 hours alloted by ATS for edits due to other matters to attend to. And I thought it important to quickly add that post of links while adding to it, so that it would come sooner in the thread rather than several pages of protest posts later.


Regarding your comments, it is funny how having crossed different information, having diverse experience and thinking about this in one's own particular way leads us to see things in another light. I happen to see things sort of in reverse as compared to you, and you may well be right and I may be wrong. From where I stand it does not seem fully certain that Aliens and Demons are one and the same - although I find it likely - whereas I do deem it essential that we either change our official order of society, calling a spade a spade and a dictatorship a dictatorship, elsewise hold our representatives and elected officials responsible to their duty and allegiance.


That we experiment on smaller, more vulnerable beings is true. However this is not true of all people. Hindus will not do so, and some go so far as to sweep before them to not kill an insect. For they believe that any living being can hold within the reincarnated soul of a person. Assuredly if that lab rat might be your beloved departed grandparent, you're not about to get into vivisection. Let's only hope that aliens are into hinduism, or that there are aliens within human host bodies causing them to handle us with special care? However, accounts of rather rough and painful treatment have filtered down through a variety of official and specialized reports. So either they are actually more evolved than us, or merely happen to have more power through access to technology which they may not have even invented themselves?


For example if you went back in time with your dressed-up pet monkey and handed it an AK47, people might think it the trained animal was an advanced being with superior abilities, and they'd set forth to decode Chimp language to access its technology. That's an exaggeration to illustrate the point that I'm not so sure that Alien Greys are superior to us as beings, only that they happen to have access to data, knowledge and skills which we haven't yet mastered. Once we do, who is to say if the pecking order won't change?


Thanks for sharing your insight, it will get me to start the brain a-churning again on those topics.


Cheers,


Getsmart

Originally posted by TacoTadah

What you have all so fullishly forgot to concure about is that high treason has been inudiated in about 5 different periodicles, at least when you should at the most take a very very seriously look at the evidence. Think about it? Birds are dying at grand levals. pilets are dying. clearly the evidence is high for high treason. JUST AS THE AUTHER WROTE. For once more think a second time about the many posts of high treason here on the forem. Should you look you should find MORE evidence. What was every body saying when they said that they didn't think that there was enuf evidence? Also there is the evidence of popuation subtracting because of the bees. This again is high treason very high because when the bees will die there will be no more food to eat. In suclucition, ALL of every little information is here on the above top secret.
Good job!

Hi Taco Tadah,


Thanks for your heartfelt reply. There is much truth to the fact that there are so so many things deeply wrong in our world, and that many of them could be simply corrected if only - and that's a BIG IF - if only those who have the power to affect change would do so more responsibly. There is a widespread dereliction of duty. However it is not necessarily everywhere in every instance of government or administration. Much of it is organized upstream, in back rooms and secret drawing boards where plans are drafted and projects are launched.


Our society has been locked down for over a century in the United States, often for longer in other countries. Much is organized in such a way that nobody down below can affect change in any significant way, some of them heroically strive to make for the best, while retaining their job in an impossible task: making things right when they were designed to go wrong. One example is the Federal Nutrition Requirements for public school boards. To respect them means that it is extremely hard to properly nourish the kids, making the task unsurmountable. Other areas of overly administered, tediously regulated and bureaucratized policies and procedures add to the theft of power from those who we are told exercise it.


One has to go high up to find who is responsible. And the real culprits are always hidden from sight. Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom stated that those who wield the power are not whom you would expect. Many American presidents for over a century have alluded to a secret cabal running our affairs from behind the scenes. It is alarming, and harder yet to "PROVE" because they take care to remain well hidden. So it is all fine and dandy to say that a person hereby member of ATS would make a statement and be subject to scoffing because they are simply stating a matter of opinion. All we have to go on is the opinion of many renowned political leaders, eminent members of the business community, respected professionals in many fields, countless researchers and authors - who somehow happen to agree that this is indeed the case.


So folks will say: NO PROOF. They're all delusional. Let's lock up the better part of the planet because they're all convinced of something that Joe Six Pack can't get proof of when he demands it by clicking away at his keyboard.


Thanks for sharing your ideas,


Getsmart

Originally posted by condition9
reply to post by VI0811

 

I am very haappy with my beliefs and knowledge also from my own experiences which I no doubt know would over shadow yours, T he Bible is real as are GOD and satan learn to accept this reality in the face of future events I am sure the satanic nwo loves the non-believers and skeptics as they are great targets!

You never answered my question, which in turn, would make one question your beliefs. In no way am i bashing the bible, nor would I, but if you investigate its origins and where those stories came from, you would have a wider perspective .....

Originally posted by Getsmart

Originally posted by redzareptile

... It is the view of the Extra Terrestial PTB to not interfear in to man's affairs at this juncture. The technology is in the hands of governments now. They choose not to release it... By doing so they would loose their grip on their subjects.

Hi Redza Reptile,

Thanks for giving us the lowdown. I really appreciate that you have access to the point of view of the Extra Terrestrial Powers That Be. Can you share with us how you learned this, if it isn't confidential? We know about how compromised our governments are, but why don't the want to interfere?

GS

You are obviously adept at gathering and processing information. I commend you for that. Let me me see if I can explain this in a way that is not too condesending.
Our existance on this planet has been well documented throughout the centuries. Our roll has been that of passive benevolence. The ruling powers have been entrusted to share or not share the technology handed to them.
Some have perverted this and some have used the technology to improve medicie and industry. It is not the appointed time to fully transverse from passive benefactor to prevelent partner. Human Kind's actions will determine the level of our involvement.
When a human discovers a new species on this planet. Is the appropiate action to dominate and alter the course of that species or is it to passively observe and help that species to prosper and naturalize itself?
Ask your leaders why? This is rhetorical I know. It is the world powers that be who control and distribute the information and technology as they see fit.

reply to post by Getsmart


I think that your credibility, personality, mentality and demeanor have been well established for all to see now. Thank you for making my filtering process for ATS that much easier.

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reply to post by VI0811


I would like to know what books or written texts you are refering to? I am not clear about all in the Bible however in the view of beliefs and the world, I accept it over nwo,satanism, witchcraft etc; I am sure you can agree there is a big doubt in everyone,s mind at times regarding any texts unless witnessed.Answering your question it is normal christian belief in God and Jesus

Originally posted by condition9
reply to post by VI0811

 

I would like to know what books or written texts you are refering to? I am not clear about all in the Bible however in the view of beliefs and the world, I accept it over nwo,satanism, witchcraft etc; I am sure you can agree there is a big doubt in everyone,s mind at times regarding any texts unless witnessed.Answering your question it is normal christian belief in God and Jesus

You didn't witness the bible being written, why would you discredit actual texts from past civilizations. Start with the earliest, Sumerians.

Let me attempt to bring some clarity and perhaps make some feel foolish.

Why can't aliens = demons? We have physical evidence of neither. What I see are people who like myself have shook themselves of religious chains and now lash out at any representation of it. I would ask why is this? Just because religion isn't what it has been portrayed by high members of the religious society doesn't mean it is complete rubbish.

Why can't religious text simply be viewed as experiences and theories of people who simply didn't have the full picture? I don't damn the bible contributor who referred to what he saw as a wheel with living eyes instead of a ufo. Why should anyone? The term ufo wasn't in existence.

What about when illness and disease was blamed on evil spirits. Do we have any proof that evil spirits aren't able to exist on our plane as virus or bacteria? See how ludicris we may make ourselves? What if normally demons and other evil spirits are only able to carnate on our plane in the form of bacteria? What if the holy spirit Jesus left us is our white blood cells and lymphatic system?

See how it's possible for religion and science to co-exist?

Another angle to consider this thread is: What if there are demons AND aliens? The demons are fallen angels who are imprisoned in our Earth in a lower plane. While aliens truly come from different galaxies or dimensions. So the visits from aliens are indeed very rare and seldom witnessed by humans. BUT the demons witness their visits and contrive a way to make it work to their advantage? Being supernatural they are able to understand advanced technology.

Knowing mankind is greedy for technology, demons begin imitating aliens and alien technology. To strike a pact with our leadership, they offer TECHNOLOGY which our leaders would gladly accept. The demons infiltrate the true aliens manner of observing and studying us, by injecting what THEY would need which is majic or the occult. This is what they need to allow them to manifest on our plane.

So our leadership may think they are in contact with a advanced alien civilization when in actuality, they are in bed with DEMONS!

For all we know the real aliens maybe intrigued as to the symbiotic relationship this organic species (humans) have with this purely energy species (angels/demons). This being their reason for frequent or infrequent visits.

I'm not saying I believe any of this as of yet, I made it as I typed. But see how easy it is to avoid separatism and conflict.

reply to post by VI0811


I am refering to generation after generation of witnesses to events that unfolded as well as events I can only say I have experienced. I will check out what you say but not sure where these sumerians books are! Added to that fact I like my chances for an afterlife relating to what the bible speaks of as oposed to being food for the aliens and nwo!!

reply to post by DZAG Wright

Why can't aliens = demons? We have physical evidence of neither.

Why can't aliens be demons (aliens != demons)? Demons have no physical form or body. Thus they are incapable of physical manifestation on the physical plane without assistance from the physical plane. In other words; it requires a Human (if we are considering only Earth) to evoke them to at least "near physical" form so that they can operate here in the physical.

As for no physical evidence: there are numerous cases where physical trace evidence has been left by ET, and in at least two cases that I know of there is evidence of ET "himself".

You can look at: www.agoracosmopolitan.com... for one that involves DNA trace, or at my evidence: evidence.wolfmagick.com.... Both contain rather simular kinds of DNA evidence of ET.

If One wants to look, there are 100's of cases that you can find on the Internet where there was physical trace evidence of UFOs and/or ET. One has but to look.

Originally posted by condition9

To Getsmart Again to let you know I have researched these areas myself for years with manyviewpoints you are on target in a great many ways there is a great deal more here that is connected and involved I am certain we are not going to get the full story no matter what! The videos are good tools the dulce govt. experiments are serious eye-openers and deserves more investigation . The ones involved in this is guilty and as has been should be prosecuted and the whole monumental orgy of horror with pedophiles, satanic rituals, alien food harvesting humans not to mention the clones! We are under serious threats and it has been stated and we have been warned however where is the full body of humans that are going to make sure this will never happen??

Hi Condition 9,


You're probably right, we're not going to get the full story from TPTB officially, but we just may be able bit by bit to piece it together like a puzzle from fragments leaked and ageing operatives who need to speak out before passing on. There are still those who feel duty bound to the rest of humanity, to their nation, to their military honor, to their idea of what the world is all about. They are the ones who will lead the way, and we can then do our best to consider the implications of what we learn towards other things we thought we knew up until then. Gradually things will start making sense. For example, I make no claim to being certain about what I have advanced as a premise in this thread, but there is no way I could have come to readily to such conclusions had there not been an awful lot of varied information from plethora of sources which enriches our perspectives and helps us forge new outlooks.


Granted, there are risks to our situation. I assess one of them to be the greatest risk. It is to fail to advance and dare to project an idea or make a supposition because we haven't got it all locked down and air tight with every bit of circumspect data cautiously tucked into place. This is no exercise in orthodox science. Sticking to such a routine is a sure way of not moving any faster than a slug on a sidewalk: we'll probably get crushed before we've gotten very far. For this reason I tend to be suspicious of those who demand we follow such methodology because it is an effective way of thwarted our efforts which certainly hasn't evaded the agencies in charge of infiltrating discussion forums and keeping the thinking at status quo.


The other risk is the one I've taken here. It is to assert things strongly, exposing them to bashing, as they may well be rightly bashed if they are wrong. But ideas are not false just because they aren't substantiated. We are today validating concepts in physics which were a laughing stock a century ago because they offered NO PROOF. Recently the Noble prize was refused by a French Physicist for research he did before WWII. His life was destroyed because he was considered unorthodox. He lived an entire life of hardship and hollered at the journalists seeking words of wisdom from the Nobel Prize in Physics. He yelled: "It was 50 years ago that you should have asked me those questions. Do you have any idea what I suffered?"


So thanks self-appointed TRUTH VIGILANTES and moreso for those Truth Vigilantes appointed by our respective governments. In example I no longer participate in the David Icke forums. Not that he himself can be accused or implicated, he had done a lot of good work even if he tends to occupy the space others could, at least some message get effectively broadcast. Since it is ATS policy to not discuss the level of counter intelligence program penetration of other internet forums I shall not pursue this topic, especially as MI6 isn't overly represented here. This is after all mostly an American Game Reserve with tightly controlled hunting privileges.


Regarding your last sentence it is a gripping appeal. That a "full body of human" must step forward and walk the walk is becoming more and more widely understood in many circles regardless of socio-professional background or ideological convictions. The level of unconscionable depravity to which the Illuminati have stooped, first in their bid to accelerate their delayed plans to act before it is too late, second to no longer hide their plans because we would be dead and unable to effectively act, has awakened people from all walks of life.


Those who serve to hide the truth, deny any validity to thought provoking ideas, reject any claims or accusations as soon as these pertain to those in positions of power or authority, they have now become no longer guardians of the peace, protectors of our comfort, faithful among the faithful servants of their masters, they have become accomplices to the traitors and they are placed on the front lines, readily identifiable by any number of secret services or hackers who can ascertain on short notice who they are and how their dastardly deeds can be neutralized.


So I offer these words of comfort, instead of reassuring into peaceable rest that instead instill a zest for victory over the infamous creed who prey on our dear ones, that this may seem to be a time where all is lost but that is only because we have at last awakened to where we are and what is to be done. It is exactly the opposite which is about, that this is a time of beginning in which the traitors and their treasonous masters shall find not a mirror of complacency but the calm hand of the law.


GS