UFO DISCLOSURE Blocked by Government High Treason !

The Stargate thing is ludicrous. Insane even.

Originally posted by Pervius
If there were nice Aliens they would have helped man by now to save our planet. To date.....ZERO help= no good aliens.

That Mars stuff is something I've not thought about so no idea on that.... As for what you say above though : we're still here aren't we? So they might have already helped more than once, and could still do more in the future. There's no proof at all that there's been zero help.

Originally posted by Getsmart
Unless they're a ploy, because invariably the Good ones have to obey a "Non Intervention Clause" and cannot alleviate hardship even in the deepest of torments. That would be a breach of angelic protocol ...

GS

Again, there's no real idea if they've helped or not, but imagining the situation you mention there is confusing and doesn't seem to make sense, agreed.

Interesting read.

Thank you getsmart for a very revealing look into all this I for one am convinced this is very real and if people would wakeup to the enormous satanic and alien combined efforts along with how the govt. roles are applying it a much cleare picture would emerge! trouble is people can have it explained and practically shoved down their throats with evidence yet still go i don,t know andturn on t.v. it is truly disgusting but there are people such as yourself that has a huge amt. of knowledge and I amcertain this to be the case of our ongoing affairs in this world today. I would like to know more.

S&F

I am a firm believer that the Kaballah was a means to bring forth Demons as it says so in the Torah and such books of the days of King Solomon. I believe the Egyptians are nothing more than those same Babylonians as are they are the Sumerians of old, as they are merely the Elites of today! I believe that Barbara Pearce is the Daughter of Aleister Crowley. I believe that Jack Parsons was instrumental in the processes of such conjuring (through sexual ritualism).

I believe each and everyone of us has a Soul, and I believe that this is the nutrient/lifeforce that is being consumed. A body is a body is a body whether it be cow, chicken, or people; it is the lifeforce that is unique to Human that is desired by any malevolent force, not our bodies.

I believe that so many people are already lost to this and that there is a cure, a way to close this realm once and for all. I believe that in my heart I can forgive all those who participated because I know that they are all attachments to these entities; so when the portals are closed the souls of the attached are not just set free, they are taken.

So Disclosure? No need to disclose because I already believe, I am only looking forward to the expulsion of the anti-humanity that exists today. The very people and entities, real or otherwise (meaning Corporations and Governments), who would purposely poison people and animals, the air and the environment, are all going to return to where they belong even if they have never been there before; they are nothing more than "attachments" at this point.

The Meek shall inherit the Earth and Heaven will reign upon this World!

I forgive them of their Trespasses because I believe enough, be it blind faith, to believe in Goodness and Life-giving Forces. Our Mother will heal from this and there will be a new World, but first there needs to be a great cleansing. We are all being prepared for that!

To be honest, not one of us will survive what is coming, but as we realize the Truths and we realize that we have not been "consumed" we will simply recreate our World filled with the Joy and the Magnificence that is being destroyed before our very eyes. It is important for each and everyone of us to take heart at what part of this existence is worthy of sustaining, because soon it will all be destroyed. It is up to us to recreate the Earth once again, with GOD's help within, not without!

I Forgive you all who think that Money is your Worth!

I Forgive you all who are but a carcass putrefying without a Soul!

Burn baby burn! I Forgive you!

I Forgive you because you can return again one day, as it is written; you will return for one more chance to redeem yourself when Judgment comes. Then it is done!

I will be here to open my arms to receive you in Heaven, on Earth! Bless you all in your Journey on the Other Side.

I have a theory. Maybe, the reason there hasn't been disclosure is because....there isn't anything to disclose. Seriously. Other than questionable videos, where usually there is only 1 person among thousands or millions with a video camera, what real proof is there? It's ALL speeculation as far as I am concerned. Show me concrete proof. There are plenty of conspiracies I believe in. "Alien disclosure" isn't one of them. There really isn't any more "proof" of alien existence, than proof in God.

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"The reason for this is that I have determined - and politely request to be humored until proven wrong - that there is no actual difference between trans-dimensional entities and extraterrestrial Aliens."

Um I think you missed something that your ego has blinded you too..you cannot state you are right until proven wrong..lol..who cares what you have determined? If you have an opinion thats one thing..you have nothing here but speculation and conjecture.Therefore how about you humour us until you are proven to be right.

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Hi

Very Interesting thread!

Unfortunately, because we, the general public, have been lied to so much (imho anyway) the matter of coming up with physical, tangible proof is very tricky.

However, I do believe that the highest levels of the governments and military (and nasa) are aware of the ET presence. And I believe that it is entirely possible that ill-advised deals were struck back in the 1950’s.

I very much agree with you that the reason that the tptb have not disclosed the truth is because they’re protecting their own @sses. Without question in my eyes, they’re not keeping quiet because they want to protect the ignorant masses from massive social and religious upheavals or change. They’re keeping quiet because they are benefiting from the ET presence and want to hoard all of the knowledge and new technology for themselves. Furthermore, the wealthy are making too much money off of our backs to have any desire to want to change the status quo until it suits them.

As well, like you said, if the public did find out what they were up to --- we wouldn’t just riot on the street ---- we’d be stringing the ****ers up. High Treason is a perfect word for what these people are up to.

Yes, I know, I know --- it’s important for our spiritual growth to remain positive....and to not focus on the negativity. But we have to be at least aware of what’s going on before we can hope to change our world around us.

Still, I think that if there are bad ET’s out there, than it would stand to reason that hopefully there are benevolent ET’s as well. And you’re right --- there’s much we don’t understand upon the phenomenon. Some ET’s may be third dimensional like us --- but then many others may be much more advanced and exist in higher dimensions. (This might explain the reports of morphing crafts and how they’re able to travel so fast and move through walls ect. ) And if we are to believe in higher dimensions that we can’t see, then yes, it is very possible that there are entities that cohabit earth with us, but simply are of a higher dimension.

So in other words, they’re not all demons imho. Some are likely what we would consider angelic.

But from everything that I’ve read about the Illuminati, I’d have to agree with you that if these fat ****s are involved with higher entities, than these entities can’t be good. To be quite honest I find the Illuminati to be scary as heck to me. On the one hand worshipping a Giant Owl seems pretty absurd --- I always think to myself when I see those videos “Really?” “Really, our political and royal have nothing better to do than pledge allegiance to an owl?” As cool as Owls are...from what I understand they’re not the sharpest bird in the animal kingdom. I would honestly think that playing on the wii or watching the Family Guy might be much more fun. (On a side note --- one of the `screen memories`that some ET contactees state have been implanted are of....Owls)

But beneath their Owl worship --- is some pretty shocking, deviant behaviour. I do believe that the Illuminati are into some pretty sick stuff. And even if one doesn’t believe in evil spirits or the devil or whatnot, these freaks do --- and what they do in the Owls name or whatever the bleep they believe in --- is the stuff of nightmares. (I suspect anyways.) Honestly, I’d sincerely rather not think about it --- but what we don’t know --- I guess really can harm us.

Originally posted by jimmyx

i agree with you...less hollywood, more MIT....less crayola, more pencil...

Hi Jimmy,

Hollywood is named after the Holly Wood, the wood used to make sorcerers' wands. We aren't as far from Black Magick as one might suspect, as that city and its entertainment industry has more than its fair share of occult covens.

Regarding MIT I beg that you review its agenda. It is wholly financed by the Military Industrial Complex and is complicit if not motor of many things which you would reprove had you a chance. Certainly there are those who can count and crunch numbers, and others who are expert at manipulating concepts... to arrive at a given pre-set goad. At ATS I will venture to say that there are loftier minds, not committed to publish or perish, unimpeded by the dominant paradigms nor seeking to manifest their career through research. We are in a far better place to explore the unknown than working for some General in the Pentagon, even if it is presented in the guise of an abstract project with scientific data to advance technologically.

That you prefer pencil to Crayola shows that you need simplification, granted, that is your call. Maybe if you add some color, a few additional parameters which interact in more complex and less clear cut ways you'll learn a bit more than with a line drawing? Linearity only helps to extend a pathway, and if that pathway is false it makes it hard to deviate your course towards the truth.

GS

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Point of order Getsmart. First of all Crayola crayons are not detail tools, they are tools of expression and not precision. Anyone who has ever wielded one knows this. For the level of detail expected on this site, you need pencils, coloured ones but pencils all the same, with fine tips, capable of extremely small detail. What you have done with your thread doesnt even come close to precise. What you did to paint the picture you want us to look at, is you left a grenade in a rainbow paint can and prayed.
That takes NO skill, and virtualy NO effort. Well done.

Originally posted by Crutchley29
The Stargate thing is ludicrous. Insane even.

Hi Critchley,

Thanks for your candid reply. You're quite right to reject things which can't fit into the overall logic. I especially sympathize with your stand because I held it for quite many years until something forced me to reconsider. I much prefer a world where it is not possible, most improbable and definitely not true. So keep your convictions but do gloss over things just in case, no harm can be done because you're not open to influence, only logic. And if it does happen to coincide at worst you'll have something interesting to contemplate.

Cheers,

GS

Originally posted by TrueBrit

Point of order Getsmart. First of all Crayola crayons are not detail tools, they are tools of expression and not precision. Anyone who has ever wielded one knows this. For the level of detail expected on this site, you need pencils, coloured ones but pencils all the same, with fine tips, capable of extremely small detail. What you have done with your thread doesnt even come close to precise. What you did to paint the picture you want us to look at, is you left a grenade in a rainbow paint can and prayed. That takes NO skill, and virtualy NO effort. Well done.

Hi True Brit,

Once again you help further the gracious reputation carried by your name, it would be good to not expose the innocent of that land to your positions. Might I ask by what authority you make a "point of order"? Am I one of her Majesty's subjects placed under your command? The writing instrument discussion is getting rather mundane and brings to point you have precious little to contribute to the discussion barring indignant contempt. Suit yourself, it only reflects on you... and any other Brit who believes they are true. I am under no obligation to furnish you with skill, to exert effort or to do anything which might in any way please you . Which makes it quite satisfying to me if you feel that I pissed in your galoshes when simply stating what I believe to be an obvious fact. I cannot be held responsible for your blindness nor for immature expectations from a discussion board.

GS

Originally posted by Nebulous1973

Um I think you missed something that your ego has blinded you too..you cannot state you are right until proven wrong..lol..who cares what you have determined? If you have an opinion thats one thing..you have nothing here but speculation and conjecture.Therefore how about you humour us until you are proven to be right.

Nebulous, as ever,

Who is making up the rules today? Are you the Master of all Logic, the Grand Keeper of Evidence? That you quite erroneously misconstrue that I have posted this thread out of any sort of ego motivation is what one might call jumping to hasty conclusions, something which I have not done awaiting years of research prior to making my statement. I am not here to prove anything to you, nor to convince you. If I reach only one person, not to convince them I am correct, but to help reassess misgivings or consider certain interconnections, then I will gladly take the lashing out of those who find a modicum of courtesy means they've proven they are fools. We can agree to disagree, and I have not motive nor duty to convey any message to you, personally. That you leave here emptier than you arrived suits me fine, and it that isn't a psychological impossibility, suit yourself.

GS

Originally posted by dialecticchaos77
I have a theory. Maybe, the reason there hasn't been disclosure is because....there isn't anything to disclose. Seriously. Other than questionable videos, where usually there is only 1 person among thousands or millions with a video camera, what real proof is there? It's ALL speeculation as far as I am concerned. Show me concrete proof. There are plenty of conspiracies I believe in. "Alien disclosure" isn't one of them. There really isn't any more "proof" of alien existence, than proof in God.

Hi dialecticchaos,


Thanks for the lesson in dialectics, I happen to agree with you. If there is something to disclose then there is the issue of High Treason. And I do think this is the case. But if it is not, then it won't be because they are clean as a whistle but because they are each individually and when organized in compartmental groups as clueless one as the other. In which case there would be nothing to disclose.


That actually makes for a much more appetizing landscape than the rather more sinister perspective of a complicit Elite bent upon our destruction. So we must by all means ignore the programs to urgently reduce the population and return with full confidence to our regular lives and especially - stop wasting our time in Conspiracy Forums where there's nothing to conspire about.


GS

Originally posted by condition9
Thank you getsmart for a very revealing look into all this I for one am convinced this is very real and if people would wakeup to the enormous satanic and alien combined efforts along with how the govt. roles are applying it a much cleare picture would emerge! trouble is people can have it explained and practically shoved down their throats with evidence yet still go i don,t know andturn on t.v. it is truly disgusting but there are people such as yourself that has a huge amt. of knowledge and I amcertain this to be the case of our ongoing affairs in this world today. I would like to know more.

Hi Condition 9,


Thanks for your kind words which sound sort of funny among the peals of criticism. First it is not that I have so much knowledge that what little knowledge I may have has at least partially organized itself into a fledgling understanding - which may be incorrect but at least provides a working basis for changing one's mind and better approaching the truth.


I take it that if my words have struck a chord, that you have had at minimum some form of contact, intuitive or social, with the issues at hand, unless you've read a lot about the subject and come to some of your own conclusions. Sharing these perceptions helps us all gain better references to analyze from.


Regarding those who will not see with their "Eyes Wide Shut" we shouldn't be too harsh. It is of course hard for us to stomach when we are aware not only of certain elements of fact which are denied, but moreso when they are no longer parts of a puzzle but a clear picture painstakingly assembled for all to see in full view, yet they deny. And it is not because they can't see, or because they don't want to see. It is because we can only see what we already know. Then only can it become real. It is both a weakness and the strong point of the human mind, we don't only decipher our reality, we actually encode it in order to project ourselves into the Matrix.


Thanks for the encouragement, I'll try to follow suit without alienating everyone else in the process.


GS

reply to post by Getsmart
Well, it is very clear that you are not a Contactee, or ever meet an alien, or probably never saw a ufo. But you put out info about them without ever having an experience or proof to back up that they are demons. It is just like here on earth there are good ones and bad ones. Even within the 57 different species there are good ones and bad ones. That is what's wrong with this planet now. Judging entire countries, societies, races, relegions as all bad or all good. I didn't mean to sound impolite, but judging others and not even know them is just so wrong.

Originally posted by Getsmart
Hollywood is named after the Holly Wood, the wood used to make sorcerers' wands.

And the historical evidence for this is? What? All I read here is plain nonsense. Perhaps you should mention Harry Potter too.

reply to post by Getsmart


You have heard the saying. What possessed them or folks to say that, do that, act like that.

Much of what you say is true..not good or evil...just simply true. I believe the illusion of good and evil is what continues to make us prisoners.

Pretty vs Ugly
Rich vs Poor
Smart vs Dumb
Black vs White
Light vs Dark
Evil vs Good
Worthy vs Unworthy

The name of the game is divide and conquer. The entertaining part is it manifests in movies as well.
Stargate SG1, Beings that feed on fear, Interstellar travel, faster than light speed, wormholes, ETs, conspiracies government, religious, science, MK Ultra, supernatural etc...Nahhhhh...thats just a movie of fiction we all reply has no basis in truth whatsoever.

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Wow! Firstly, remind me to never piss you off, because when you answer someone, you REALLY ANSWER THEM!!! Secondly, I actually didn't read all your postings yet, but I'm actually inclined to believe what I see as your initial premise, and have thought so for quite some time. Now then, I'm a theologically minded, so I always view the events happening in the world through correlations that I then relate back to insights that I read and gain from the Bible...I guess you'd have to keep that in mind. Having said that, I have long since thought that UFOs and alien presence most likely represented a trans-dimensional presence rather than a distant universal relative.

Originally posted by robinmorningstar
I'm a theologically minded, so I always view the events happening in the world through correlations that I then relate back to insights that I read and gain from the Bible...

This is the whole problem, no one seems to be able to shed their worldview lightly. Golly, what a surprise.

Atheists will find the demon concept ludicrous. Bible believers will make an effort to dismiss the possibility of extraterrestrials and interpret the phenomenon from a very strict theological perspective. Those in the middle don't understand what all the crap is about and will shrug their shoulders instead.

In short, everyone is going to say something they want or have decided to be true a priori.