Christians are becoming social pariahs in Britain, claims BBC presenter Jeremy Vine

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you don't honestly want me to hold you responsible for what other people do, do you?
REALLY? honestly?

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that does not mean i start blaming all men for what happens to women and has happened to women,

Undo, if your god told you to kill me would you do it yes or no ?

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and as the numbers of christians dwindle the more the "bedrock" of the "deeply dopey" is left exposed and their efforts cannot help but cause the decline to move even faster

Well there are many here on ATS that hold all moslems responsible for 9/11. That is fine aai hold Xtians responsible for black slavery and the end of slavery... Go figure.

Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by undo

 

that does not mean i start blaming all men for what happens to women and has happened to women,

Undo, if your god told you to kill me would you do it yes or no ?

nope. cause he wouldn't. he told me to love you even if you "Smacked" me upside the head, as you seem to want to do, even though you don't know anything about me other than i like to research, am a christian with wacky ideas, and have been pretty patient while i've been called pretty much everything under the sun.

i'm really not a stupid person. you vacillate from implying i'm stupid, to calling me smart enough to understand what you are saying.

i also have something to offer society, even if you don't appreciate it. i'm also an artist, poet, writer, and a musician, mom and wife. i'm a pretty nice person. if you asked me for something, even after claiming you wanted to slap me upside the head for even daring to talk about what i believe in or voting my conscience, i'd still give you what you asked for provided it wasn't asking me to stop having a free will. (and i had it to give to you in the first place)

see? digital clay model i made of japanese lady, heian period.
undomielle.deviantart.com...

i guess you don't like female clay models either (right along with female comedians).
face it, until i say i agree with you, nothing i do will ever be good enough.

here's an angel i painted anyway, whether you like it or not, is, i guess, not my fault?
fc07.deviantart.net...
should it be my fault? you think?

Originally posted by 547000
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Well, I find it unfair about how much flake you draw for being Christian. If people behaved the same way with Muslims or Jews or any other religious group, they would be called racists. Yet it's a-okay to mock and insult Christians the way it's done.

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funny you should post tha
i have seen a lot of this kind of thing
Studying islam has made me an atheist

Some years ago I started studying Islam. It didn’t take long to recognise the problems of that religion’s texts — the repetitions, contradictions and absurdities

Gradually, scepticism of the claims made by one religion was joined by scepticism of all such claims. Incredulity that anybody thought an archangel dictated a book to Mohammed produced a strange contradiction.

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i think the virgin birth was artificial insemination.
i know, i know, where ever did i get the crazy idea that such a thing is possible.........
shrug.

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OK you are talented. I didn't even know digital clay existed. Now how about the OP. Are Xtians now social pariahs in the UK? I don't think so. It is just more victim politics.

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The virgin birth thing wasn't added in the bible until the third and fourth gospels which were written many years after the supposed event. Being born of a virgin was a trait that the sun gods of ancient had in common. I think it was just added in the beef up the claim he was the sun of god

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you wont get an argument form me about the "was god and alien thing", is good fun to consider and might have some truth in it

but sorry the whole Jesus thing is just to obviously a Greek/Roman personification of the sun story

Originally posted by tiger5
reply to post by undo

 

OK you are talented. I didn't even know digital clay existed. Now how about the OP. Are Xtians now social pariahs in the UK? I don't think so. It is just more victim politics.

well try living in a place where the subject is not even an issue, to living in a place, where it's a huge issue. that happened to me when i moved from a place that was mix of everything, so people just were people. to a place where everyone or almost everyone had the same belief and suddenly it was a problem. even people who had the same belief as the majority would occasionally complain about how cloistered and exclusive people behaved.

the guys who are manipulating all this behind the scenes, KNOW how to pull people's strings and man/woman, they 've been working at it full time lately. they must be winding up for the big one.

Originally posted by racasan
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you wont get an argument form me about the "was god and alien thing", is good fun to consider and might have some truth in it

but sorry the whole Jesus thing is just to obviously a Greek/Roman personification of the sun story

i think he is enki. same M.O.
same .. "save humans from enlil," purpose. i could be wrong though. but the more i study the two of them, the more connections i find.

Originally posted by The Djin
Try being an atheist in the USA, then you'll really know what flak is all about matey boy.

Come to England mate, you'll be more than welcome

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by The Djin
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that does not mean i start blaming all men for what happens to women and has happened to women,

Undo, if your god told you to kill me would you do it yes or no ?

nope. cause he wouldn't.

I didn't ask you whether you thought he would or wouldn't ask, I asked what if he did

Originally posted by undo
well try living in a place where the subject is not even an issue, to living in a place, where it's a huge issue. that happened to me when i moved from a place that was mix of everything, so people just were people. to a place where everyone or almost everyone had the same belief and suddenly it was a problem. even people who had the same belief as the majority would occasionally complain about how cloistered and exclusive people behaved.

But isn't that the whole point?

That It's the religious who are the most intolerant..... religious intolerance is perpetrated by the religious.

Even Christians can't agree.


You have so many branches and brands and flavours of the same thing, that it becomes hectic and competitive and, from what you've said.... hostile and petty.

As I said, Atheists don't go around trying to convert people, bashing people for their views, ganging up on people and forcing them out of jobs and towns.... that's ridiculous, But I GUARANTEE you... that Atheists face this kind of persecution and hostility everyday, at the hands of the religious.

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by The Djin
Try being an atheist in the USA, then you'll really know what flak is all about matey boy.

Come to England mate, you'll be more than welcome

Lol I'm in Wales the armpit of the UK and one of the last bastions of racial confusion, where the xtian desperate scramble for the minds of the young Taf is in hypergear. However, I am pleased to report that those that hide behind a fish are being flushed out by people like me and their sick stalking of children is being beaten back by reason and a few mind slaps.

It is an uphill thankless task but I am reassured to know that G_D is with me and valley people love drink soaps and sex making reading anything past the first sentence Genesis positively rocket science next to the Indian menu.

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What other Christian-like group got that large a following. That whole time period was like the 1960s. People were promising stuff and people followed them. But Only Jesus survived the ages. I'd call that proof that something happened. And you completely walked over the proof I said earlier.

The proof is that numerous of those other guys gave up their magic tricks and wanted to follow this man who had more power. Some even asked how they could learn to do such tricks, and the disciples told him that it is not magic. Not some trick. It's the real deal. And said folks joined the Christians. Some even took Jesus's name, like Bar-jesus. And he was exposed for being a trick.

That's why. Jesus was the only one to not only follow up with proof but in addition to be the only one whom could do it just with his mind, and not some chemistry set or move of the hand. Ergo, he's not just another guy.

Sathya Sai Baba was shown to be a fake. He's also not good of replicating it in front of leaders and recorders. Jesus was. Fail/

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i think he is enki. same M.O. same .. "save humans from enlil," purpose. i could be wrong though. but the more i study the two of them, the more connections i find.

Then why the hell are you responding in this thread ? go do your research and come back with evidence of your theories and start a thread, I would gladly contribute.

The people that stalk my children and are whining about being social pariahs are quite happy with the bible story as it is, Elnil Enki et al are not on the table here Undo.

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Ahhhh fair enough.

I thought you were in America and saying you were finding it tough.
No worries.



And LOL