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Originally posted by Triztheone
Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
Originally posted by crimvelvet
I know of some people who grabbed a sample from military planes on a base near me. The sent the sample out for testing. The crap definitely exists!
So what is it?
What are they spraying and where are the test results?
Watch this video: www.youtube.com...
'POISON EXPERT CLAIM CHEMTRAILS COULD BE SPRAYED TO DESTROY OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS.'
The test results said it contained a very high level of 'BARIUM'.
Peace be with you.
Ted Gunderson is the former chief of the Los Angeles FBI.
After a brief stint as a sales representative for Hormel Foods Corporation,[2] Gunderson entered the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951. He served in Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as a Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia; and as Chief Inspector, and Special Agent-in-Charge of the Memphis and Dallas divisions. In 1977, Gunderson took his last position as Senior Special Agent-in-Charge of the Los Angeles division, and retired in March 1979.
The following is a complete listing of the rank structure found within the FBI;[40]
Probationary Agent
Special Agent
Senior Special Agent
Supervisory Special Agent
Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge (ASAC)
Special Agent-in-Charge (SAC)
Assistant Director
Associate Executive Assistant Director
Executive Assistant Director
Deputy Chief of Staff
Chief of Staff & Senior Counsel to the Director
Associate Deputy Director
Deputy Director
Director
Originally posted by weedwhacker
" Have you see this documentary? 'What in the World Are They Spraying' "
That "documentary" (and that is a rathere generous term to use, when speaking of that odius film) is a load of misconception, misapplied "science"....and based on primarily false premises to begin with:
The basic premise(s) of the film is(are):
Normal Contrails fade away quickly
Scientists have talked about geoengineering using aluminum sprayed from planes
Since 1999, trails have been observed to persist for a long time
Tests in various locations at ground level have found different levels of aluminum
Monsanto has genetically engineered aluminum resistent crops
The government denies any spraying or geoengineering is going on
THEREFORE: The trails are aluminum being sprayed as part of a secret government geoengineering project.
This well-done article addresses those points (premises) and explains in detail how each is incorrect.
That information is followed by lengthy posted comments, and further discussion and explanation.......
It is, somewhat, amusing to see the multitude of confusing, and conflicting "theories" about so-called "chem"-trails that abound. As shown above, the allegation from THAT film is centered on "aluminum spraying".
Yet, a casual perusal around the Webz (and on ATS) will discover a host of other equally absurd ideas and claims....what is doubly amusing is, that this (per the numerous "reports" by people all over the world who are "outraged" or otherwise self-proclaimed "aware") would indicate an effort, on such a massive scale (in order to be occurring virtually simultaneously, everywhere) that any logical look at it will soon realize the sheer impossibility......well, actually, implausability.....NOT if it is also, as alleged, all "Top Secret"......
>shrug< Seems that logic has flown out the windows, mostly....
edit on 18 January 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)
When I encountered him, I began to realize what a very sick man he was physically and mentally/emotionally. Extremely unstable and psychotic. In fact, I found out after I had encountered him, that he had been in a mental ward for many months because of his many problems. I knew he was on medication for his psychotic behavior while staying at the Brunners.
Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by freelance_zenarchist
For instance we know Ted doesnt have good standing in the FBI now
Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
reply to post by ShogunAssassins
hahaha there's alot of wacky stuff in that link. It comes off as more of an attack piece than an actual investigation by Stew Webb though. Who cares if Ted couldn't perform in the bedroom for his satanic wife?
However if you Google Stew Webb you'll get the same kind of in-depth investigations:
When I encountered him, I began to realize what a very sick man he was physically and mentally/emotionally. Extremely unstable and psychotic. In fact, I found out after I had encountered him, that he had been in a mental ward for many months because of his many problems. I knew he was on medication for his psychotic behavior while staying at the Brunners.
And here's an ATS thread about none other than Ted Gunderson and Stew Webb.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Illuminizard
Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by freelance_zenarchist
For instance we know Ted doesnt have good standing in the FBI now
One of the points I was trying to convey earlier is that he doesn't have a standing in the FBI at all. When all is said and done it's a job like any other. Expecting Mr. Gunderson to have a privileged connection with the FBI after over 30 years of retirement is about the equivalent of me going to the McDonalds I worked at when I was 15 and expecting to get "hooked up" with a number 1. It just doesn't make any sense. I would find 5 years plausible, even 10 or 15 years maybe, but anyone he's worked with is years or decades retired at this point. Given that, his own videos in which no evidence is presented, and his history, I do not consider him to be a credible source in any regard.
Originally posted by rocket88
found an article about the issue right here:
______beforeitsnews/story/361/386/Chemtrail_Hoax_Chemtrail_Nonsense.html