The Day Before Roswell

reply to post by spacevisitor


Dear spacevisitor

Yes well it just seams people of ATS do not seam to understand my sarcasm.

Colonel at time Blanchard ordered a press release stating that the USAAF had recovered a flying disc. When in fact according to the USAAF it turned out to be nothing more than tin foil and a bit of balsawood.

Before he retired they made him a 4 star General. My point being if it where true that all they had was nothing more than tin foil and a bit of balsawood, he should have been locked a a white padded room.

Perhaps it is just the UK humor.

reply to post by KANE OG

one group is from satan and one group is from god,those are just the names they gave them in the war between them on another planet before earth,and the angels are aliens aswell,your human depiction of the devil and god was only names used by them,the rhetoric that the devil and god do exixt under the human name is a name inwhich humans wont find out until they are dead.

This is Just Fantastic,,,, S & F
I just could not read enough of this thread, Great. I wish I had more to add to help.
I was wondering, Had the new ATS member "bernardschnitzel" post to this thread yet.
I looked as I read but didn't see a post from him, with his introduction thread, I thought he might of added something.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


Would it be ok if you didn't quote my entire post in your previous message to this one? Maybe just the relevant part you are replying to? In this case you are going on about some video, and as of yet I have not mentioned any videos anywhere, so I'm guessing you hit quote on the wrong message. Could you just hit reply instead of quote from now on? And before your alloted time runs out, how about trimming down your -mistake- post down to a sentence and move on?

Thanks

Excellent work! I need to go check out my local library now!

reply to post by A51Watcher


Great post, well researched.

Do you have any more information on the "07/08/47 - OREGON JOURNAL - AAF, POLICE STAY MUM ON STORY DISC FOUND".

If you could post the article that would be very interesting.

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
Every witness that has ever claimed to see a saucer in the world of life WAS only LOOKING AT ONE of the THREE engines underneath that resemble a FLYING SAUCER because of the round shape it has.

OK, this is getting interesting, but still I find it hard to bite - the main reason is because of the way the disk shaped object we observed was moving - it was rotating constantly in all possible directions according to its center, and there didn't seem to be any other such anywhere near. The thing we saw was huge and if you're trying to say that this was one of three engines of the craft itself, then, sir, this one I simply can't swallow. It would've been around two soccer fields, judging by the so-called engine.

However, it's movement, as well as the movement of the triangular craft rang a few bells for certain ATS members, who did solve, imo, why they were moving like that. Mostly based on Gyroscope mechanism. So, IMO, I find the Gyroscope connection much more logical and highly plausible, I keep an open mind and will think about what you said, however, I think that the chances will remain the same. Could be only an engine, but highly unlikely. Please, do give an eye on the thread, you will see why I find it hard to take your statement as a fact. But we COULD be speaking about different "vehicle-owners".

So, I continue to stay behind my view that there are saucers, and there were obviously ones reported back in the 40s. Well, not ones, but dozens, sounds better. And thank you to the OP, as this thread totally removed my suspiciouns about Roswell being Nazi's or faked. Well, the reason for the crash could be a subject of much speculation, but with no point.

Interesting topics, Stanton has done some amazing work. Do any of you think this is all project blue beam and that Ets do not exist?

I think Rosewell New Mexico UFO crash was just one of many that happens every decade. Since the media is basically controlled by the powers that be, its obvious that they dont want us to know whats REALLY going on. As the years go by the story changes more and more, the same way an on going lie does. Hopefully eventually the full truth will come out. Alien or Human technological error.

reply to post by ch1n1t0

Sorry, never meant to highjack this thread into a religious argument. I, personally, was meaning to comment on the reason's the UFO phenomena took so long to "take off," so to speak. I think some of the suppression came from religious concerns. It should be noted that the Catholic church has been adressing the subject only lately.

reply to post by annella


That would make sense to me. Since I believe if there are extraterrestrials around our planet, they have been here alot longer than we think and this is their planet before it's ours, because they are more technologically advanced. Saying that, maybe the Atomic bombs had something to do with it because of the possibility of the human race to severely impact life on Earth as we know it. For all we know, we (as in top secret officials) have already been contacted since then to maintain peace on the Earth. It's all speculation though.

I was going to say that the guy insisting there aren't any discs only triangles is nuts until I actually thought about what he's saying. It could be a possibility that people are only seeing the engine mechanisms which aren't cloaked. Yet, I tend to believe there are many types of ufo's, I mean why COULDN'T an advanced society build their craft in disc, cigar and triangle shapes?

I really wanted everyone to take into account something that popped in my head. If our use of nuclear technology is what drew ufo's to our planet, how sensitive is their equipment? I mean if they are truly from another galaxy and were able to pick up signatures from our nuclear usage....their equipment is phenomenon. They didn't have to wait years for the signatures to reach where they are located either!

Great thread!

reply to post by A51Watcher


Great thread and good research..
Blows the ballon theory away..

I'm confused with this headline though..

RAAF in Roswell.?? That the Royal Australian Air Force.?

Great information! thnx

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by A51Watcher

 

Great thread and good research..
Blows the ballon theory away..

I'm confused with this headline though..

RAAF in Roswell.?? That the Royal Australian Air Force.?

Roswell Army AirField? LOL

Another early author that came up with interesting details way ahead of his time was:

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Frank Edwards and his 1966 book -

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This is where I read the only report I have seen about the event, published post-Roswell in such detail, decades before Major Marcel broke his silence and came forward.


"There are such difficult cases as the rancher near Roswell, NM who phoned the sheriff that a blazing disc-shaped object had passed over his house at low altitude and had crashed and burned on a hillside within view of the house The sheriff called the military: the military came on the double quick. Newsmen were not permitted in the area. A week later however the government released a photograph of a serviceman holding up a box kite with an aluminum disc about the size of a large pie pan dangling from the bottom of the kite. This, the official report explained, was a device borne aloft on the kite and used to test the radar gear by bouncing the signals off the pie pan. And this, we were told, was the sort of thing that had so excited the rancher. We were not told however how the alleged kite caught fire.- nor why the military cordoned off the area while they inspected the wreckage of a burned-out box kite with a non-inflammable pie pan tied to it."

Frank was of course referring to one of the Major Jessie Marcel Sr. photos in which he states he was ordered to pose with falsified wreckage and stay silent about it.

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...and then one of Gen. Ramey (on left) and his Chief of Staff, Col. Thomas Dubose (on right) obviously seriously examining the wreckage.

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...and then another of the two of them laughing about what an idiot Major Marcel must be.
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"Gee the Intelligence officer of our most important secret base, (because it is our only nuclear squadron of the day) apparently can't tell the difference between a weather balloon and a spaceship from Mars! Hahahaha!
Marcel swore that in private when he was ordered to pose with the false wreckage and keep quiet, he was promised "that one day, when this all comes out, you will be made a hero!" He patiently endured that shame and waited for that day in silence. That day never came and so shortly before he died he gave a few interviews stating in no uncertain terms what had really happened that day.

reply to post by A51Watcher

you can show this as many times as you want. it does not turn people into believers.

reply to post by Truth01
Maybe you could supply some information that you base your claims on, such as book and verse and what version of the bible you are referencing. Because otherwise, your just blowing smoke.

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I mean if they are truly from another galaxy and were able to pick up signatures from our nuclear usage....their equipment is phenomenon. They didn't have to wait years for the signatures to reach where they are located either!

Depends what date you use as "turning up". The first nuclear device was exploded in 1945, 2 years before the Roswell incident.

Of course, it doesn't have to be a different galaxy, we have barely observed much of our own solar system yet alone the rest of the Milky Way.

Great thread and placed Roswell for me into a new light. I was always a believer in the Roswell case. But understood, that people were and still are receptive for the weather balloon explanation.

Now looking at your findings, the old weather balloon excuse just looks pretty funny. UFO sightings all over the place, reported from many many people, even mass sightings.

And what does the Air Force capture? A weather balloon Was it disc shaped?