ATS Beware of Jared Loughner discussions! You're being drawn into a media trap!

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Youre still ranting??
Hmm.. who's making the ass of themselves here? I didnt refer any of it to you in the slightest.I said she had a point with the weirdos here and elsewhere thirsting after a revolution in some fantasy they have. No one said YOU did. If you see it as that way, maybe YOU have the problem. Lilitu didnt insinuate it was you she was speaking of either and you attacked her as well. Calm down and be just a little rational. Now go away and ignore me. Im not reading your ranting anymore... youre boring and tedious. And for the last time.. NO ONE said they were speaking of you.. you just decided to make yourself the center of attention.

Originally posted by thegoodearth

Originally posted by Advantage
The real question is: did he do the breathing thing and change his voice to demand the money?? If Id have been a teller there while the robbery happened and that occurred.. Id have been laughing too hysterically to push the silent alarm panic button thingy.

Right?
What were the customers thinking, is what I would like to know...
I just remember the basic story, not the bits and pieces...
If I had been a customer, I would have cracked up laughing.

Seriously, if someone walked into any place of business dressed like that,
what would you think?

I sure as hell wouldnt be thinking robbery. LOL!

Have you seen the youtube about the guy dressed as a clown who robbed someone or some business? I cant remember the whole story as it was a while back, but it was hysterical. Im going to have to go find it now.

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, who travelled to Tucson to take charge of the investigation, said that one focus of the inquiry is whether far-right organisations and websites played a role. "The ubiquitous nature of the internet means not only threats but hate speech and other inciteful speech is much more readily available to individuals than quite clearly it was eight or 10 or 15 years ago."

It seems to me that websites are being blamed (not named yet). This is a quote from FBI Direct Robert Mueller in the Guardian over in the UK.

Guardian UK

Originally posted by DeadLift

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, who travelled to Tucson to take charge of the investigation, said that one focus of the inquiry is whether far-right organisations and websites played a role. "The ubiquitous nature of the internet means not only threats but hate speech and other inciteful speech is much more readily available to individuals than quite clearly it was eight or 10 or 15 years ago."

It seems to me that websites are being blamed (not named yet). This is a quote from FBI Direct Robert Mueller in the Guardian over in the UK.

Guardian UK

The Guardian also said it was right wing related.. when in fact Jared was a registered Dem and Leftie. The MSM needs to get their propaganda straight before they start printing it. If its up to the bobbleheads and our govt.. every 20-something that smokes pot,Makes stupid youtubes, has a mental disease, and dares to believe something that isnt main stream will be targeted for investigation. The idea is not to buy into the hysteria nor believe everything you read or hear. He was a member of several websites and posted on many.. maintained a youtube channel as well. Let them target websites.. theyre looking hard for an excuse.. never waste a good crisis is the motto these days.

If they want to target someone.. take a good hard look at Westboro church for praising this sick murderer. They need some spotlight on what they promote and defend if ANYONE does.

Want to know what amazes me? The fact how they found out he was a member he didn't he even made posts recently instead months ago but yet some how he was mysteriously discovered damn the people ere do know their board. That even a new registered user that started about a bird thread almost seemed as if he took control wtf? The psychology does not seem right about his discovery ere? I missed something did I?

i new here today, because i saw ATS mentioned on OTHER conspiracy site, as having LOUGHER as member.

not sure what that means.. but thought u should know

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It wouldn't surprise me if someone from the msm actually came here and started threads like that themselves. Anything to get a shocking story and create controversy. Everybody loves controversies.

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He was a registered Independent, actually, who didn't vote. There has been a lot of misinformation on the web, lately with the animal kills and now this. I'm starting to wonder how we could possibly know the truth about anything that is on the internet.

Originally posted by PhantomLimb
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He was a registered Independent, actually, who didn't vote. There has been a lot of misinformation on the web, lately with the animal kills and now this. I'm starting to wonder how we could possibly know the truth about anything that is on the internet.

I dont care if he was a registered withthe mickey mouse club.. its about time people see HE did this himself and not any political leanings. He himself called himself a democrat and a leftie. Guess he was confused about himself as much as everyone else is. Bottom line.. he did it because he wanted to.. no political affiliations nor anything else forced him to do a damned thing.

Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
i new here today, because i saw ATS mentioned on OTHER conspiracy site, as having LOUGHER as member.

not sure what that means.. but thought u should know

Yeah.. ats already knew. In fact, everyone knew it pretty quickly. Many of us have been around the community for years and are members or lurkers on other boards. This ID of mine is my latest due to moving across country and lurking again. Its not like we all dont talk across boards either. The thing I was impressed with here was that the members themselves handled the poster thought to be Jared pretty well.

WHats really amusing is that a few members on a certain board are talking smack on ATS.. and dont seem to remember when their illustrious leader got a visit from the feds concerning a commenter on that persons site making threats against the president. Sure funny when folks in glass houses bust the place up with stones.

And Micheal Jackson was just as retart about nwo? I think people are just afraid to except the truth its human nature to be afraid of anything that can be greater! Do you think people wont go crazy if some ET show up?

You know what? I don't think there is any reason to fear media attention. The essential goodness of ATS will be self-evident and shine through. This board has nothing to be ashamed of and everything to be proud of, a few bad apples not withstanding.

I believe in ATS.

Originally posted by exactmad
And Micheal Jackson was just as retart about nwo? I think people are just afraid to except the truth its human nature to be afraid of anything that can be greater! Do you think people wont go crazy if some ET show up?

After seeing Jackson in High def.. nope. I will fear NO ET.

I am of the mind that the NWO is real.. a brand of it anyway. There are a plethora of theories about the NWO, its leaders, its motivations and endgame though.In my OPINION.. I do not believe that this murderer is involved in it to any extent other than another crisis to capitalize off of. Its a great spring board for some of the more idiotic things our govt wants to do. If he was an NWO mind controlled assassin.. he'd have been ex mil, a tea partier, and all of the other things that this administration seems to fear. He would have also had much better youtubes with better music. He doesnt fit as far as I can see to other operatives that have possibly been involved in a controlled crisis. Conspiracy-type speaking of course

Originally posted by silent thunder
You know what? I don't think there is any reason to fear media attention. The essential goodness of ATS will be self-evident and shine through. This board has nothing to be ashamed of and everything to be proud of, a few bad apples not withstanding.

I believe in ATS.

Amen to that. The discussions have been great, civil, interesting debates and theories.. and of course first rate reporting by the members as it happened.
You have bad apples everywhere but here it really seems that the posters police the place pretty well. That in itself is something to be proud of.

I have about another hour of computer work.. I sure hope I get to hear that a great fault opened up under westboro church and swallowed them all up before I log off. Yeah yeah.. I know : wishful thinking..

MSM is just jealous - ATS puts out more accurate information, faster, via the hive mind than the propaganda mouth could EVER do.

MSM is jerking people's emotions around, bringing up emotional issues like gun control just to sell papers and get hits off a story that was just a sad human tragedy.

Why didn't they cover the guy who flew his plane into the IRS building a bit better? lol
Why aren't they covering the wikileaks cables better?
I have no respect for them. They already show they have no respect for intelligent people - and that's mainly what I've found on ATS, overwhelmingly - much more intelligence than in the average nightly news - even if I don't always agree with a lot of folks.

People here actually bring stuff to the table - right brain AND left brain - thoughts, experiences, information, ATS members as a hive will pick any thing apart down to the pixel.

Losing focus...

Louffner or however his name is spelled; did he have a companion or not? Was his companion his "handler?"

Guilty people who don't want to be caught revert attention anywhere but where it belongs...

I called manchurian as the news first broke. 50-50 percent chance.

Why isn't the MSM investigating this feasible, likely scenario?

They need a scapegoat to deliver what they think is the news.

Originally posted by loveguy
Losing focus...

Louffner or however his name is spelled; did he have a companion or not? Was his companion his "handler?"

Thats what Ive been asking.. this mysterious 50 yr old man. Why was this thrown out there.. who was he.. has that information changed.. who was in that pic that the media claimed was this companion during the shooting spree.. etc?? More media whoring or was it true?

I havent looked real hard for it... but Ive seen nothing about it.. and thats a pretty huge factor if true. If he was there and knew what was about to happen.. he needs to be caught as he would be a threat to others as well.

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I saw on the news earlier that the older gentleman in the picture that was being sought had been found and was just the cab driver that dropped him off and that was all there was to the story. I have read several reports that he went by cab. Some people are even discussing the oddity that he waited for his change back from the cab driver.Here is one story on it.

Beware of everything. It would not surprise me if federal agents have are already been on this site. Registered for years. But hey, that is how it goes, good times, bad times.

Originally posted by loveguy
Losing focus...

Louffner or however his name is spelled; did he have a companion or not? Was his companion his "handler?"

Guilty people who don't want to be caught revert attention anywhere but where it belongs...

I called manchurian as the news first broke. 50-50 percent chance.

Why isn't the MSM investigating this feasible, likely scenario?

They need a scapegoat to deliver what they think is the news.

While it might be a similiar case as in Robert Kennedys shooting, there is nothing to suggest that this is the case. The man turned out to be a cab driver. We will have to wait and see if further information surfaces.