Birds Dying In Italy: Thousands Of Turtle Doves Fall Dead From Sky

I really wish I was a scientist and could examine these birds and why they are dying. I'm sure there has to be someone who is an expert in this field that is possibly close to one of these areas that can dissect the bird or fish and get to the bottom of this.

I think this guy Robert W. Felix has nailed what's happening., weather-wise. He contends that our world is entering an Ice Age.

website... www.iceagenow.com...

However, I don't know if this ice age thing explains the odd symptoms being reported, so I tend to think that the sudden die-offs are a result of some secret government operation like chemtrails or HAARP. This could also be some kind of mass mind control operation making people fearful via these perhaps staged events.

Once I heard a guy on Coast-to-Coast say that he had insider information that the purpose of the chemtrails program has been to terraform our planet. How and why, he wouldn't say, wouldn't go into detail.

Then, there is the magnetic pole shift as many here have pointed out, which ostensibly would disorient these birds and fish. But the point made earlier about how species specific these attacks are, that leads me to ponder that this could be a black ops program to test a top secret, species specific weapon. One can only imagine why our government might want such a weapon.

Something is definitely up. Possibly a combination of the factors I mentioned. When the mainstream media trot out excuses like "it was only New Year's Eve fireworks, folks, no mystery" --- you hear that and you know there's a propaganda campaign of disinfo going on. This whole situation bears scrutiny in the upcoming days and weeks as we evaluate what unfolds next.

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No no your wrong.
It is the swamp gas!

My question for those in the know... or those with proof only please...

Is this normal or abnormal?

Many thanks!

Here is some good info about the movement of Magnetic North.

I wanted to visualize the movement of magnetic north. I used the info from Wiki: Earths's Magnetic Field and plotted them on Google earth.

The Distance Magnetic North has moved is 309 miles in the last 10 years.
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The dance of the Magnetic North Pole from 1590-2010.

Note the rapid movement increase at the very end of the video 2000-2010... The most rapid movement the pole shift has experienced in 420 years is happening right now.



source: GEOMAG

Shift of Earth's Magnetic North Pole Impacts Tampa Airport

I've noticed strange behavior at my apartment complex. We have these doves that live in the trees right outside in the gardens. They have been living there for generations, as far back as I can remember. But in the past week they have been acting kooky. The slightest sound, just opening my front door makes them all scatter and fly chaotically into other trees and the side of our building. In the 9 years I've been living here this has never happened. Occasionally one bird will get spooked, but it's not often. It has never happened with the frequency or this kind of mob mentality. Something is definitely going on, perhaps a new virus.

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The truth is nobody knows yet. It's like a volcano. It's starts erupting (which is normal I guess), but you really don't know until time passes how bad it is.

It is not out of the ordinary, however scientist have only recently started to understand the complexity of the ecosystem and it's rhythms.

Normal is a bad word choice as is regular.

It will take months to gather and compare data.

The only thing they can tell right now is if it was poison or not.

Weather for instance which can kill a fish or bird has to be analyzed over longer periods and with more factors. It is not as simple as a litmus test (though many here seem to think so).

Also foodchain issues are going to come up eventually. Bacteria, microbes, algae etc. They also need longer time to observe.

The gulf oilspill not causing major damage was only to calm the public. Scientists will are and will be studying the effects for a long time. It would be impossible for them to say weather or not the damage is severe so soon after.

Unfortunately there is no easy answer and there will be conflicting theories from the scientific community.

Your intuition is just as good of a guide at this point. Stay informed and don't panic.

The birds that died in Sweden the other day also had blue residue in their beaks so in Europe whatever the cause is it would seem to be the same problem in different locations.

reply to post by thewholepicture
Why is this only being reported/taking place in populated areas?

Why is no one seeing the birds fall?

Why is this only happening at night?

Why is it always only one species?

Why are the birds always dead or dying before hitting the ground?

Why are there always blood clots or hemorraged organs/lungs or now, hypoxia?

Why?

Because the birds are being poisoned in captivity and then spread around by humans. Whether being dumped from an airplane or scattered by hand, this is a man-made incident.

My theory is a coming bird flu pandemic or something like it. It is either to push vaccine sales or something more nefarious.

- mike
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its not "big news" if it happens in bfe and birds travel with there own kind
there not going to fall out of the sky if there in good health
some1 on here just yesterday said there wife saw 2 gules drop dead
other than that you may be right it could be some big government op to kill us all with the bird flu. i dont think it is but only time will tell

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Thanks and not panicking

I just asked because the trend seems to be the same as the UFO sightings of late...

When one incident happens everyone reports similar incidents amongst the parranoia and all go on to say OMG it's all connected!!

I was just curious to know if these things happened before the were recently reported i.e. was it normal for 1000s of birds to fall out of the sky dead... has it happend before... and so on or is all of this against what is perceived as being normal... do in fact birds and fish not fall out of the sky and die in droves...

Thats all

Thanks again.

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Noooooo! Not the cows!

Imagine the madness in India alone! Grieving for all their dead gods and ancestors! HOLY COW!

I just looked up avian biology and it seems they perceive the earth's magnetic field through their eyes and its light dependent. Depending on the wave lenght of light effects their magnetic compass they can only sense it in certian light wave lenghts. They can sense changes in the inclination of magnetic field lines but are not sensitive to the polarity of the field lines. Under normal conditions, birds are sensitive to only a narrow band of magnetic field strengths around the geomagnetic field strength, but can orient at higher or lower magnetic field strengths given accomodation time.

Is someone trying to scare us? If so, they should try a little harder! At this point, these articles are becoming a little tiresome.....like, overkill! Maybe the rest of the sheeple are buying the crap "they're" trying to sell....but, can they move on to some more scarier news....some of us aren't so guillable! I refuse to believe anything the MSM has to say. If the sky is falling.....i'm pretty sure i would see it; don't need 'THEM' telling me so. Besides, when it's time to go......it's time to go...and nothing can stop your 'due date'. We all expire sometime, so live life in fear (reverence) of God....and love each other.

Maybe, we should just start ignoring 'their' fearmongering...for 'their' agenda. Oh, wait.....then the big bad wolf just might show up.

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The short answer is an obvious no it's not normal. If you read what scientists say it's most likely due to or probably. Words and there defintion are important to science.

If it were normal scientists wouldn't bother studying these things. It has happened. Is it normal a bird flies into your window? Not really or it would happen "all the time".

My opinion is no it's not normal. But I am not an expert. I have hunted and fished for 12 years and work in another field of science.

Is it common even no. Because you need to define those words.

We forget about language sometimes.

It is unusual so many things are happening but still somewhat in the lines of being part of a life cycle.

Coupled with the massive environmental disasters world wide I personally am concerned. But that's my opinion.

I wasn't trying to say you were panicking it was more of a reminder to people.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
So this link says they have blue streaks in their beaks which may be indicative of hypoxia...


What is a symptom? Confusion....

military knows what is going on?? this is due to scalar weapon they are testing in the ionsphere around the globe and people think this is the end of the world but is not. evreything is human made speculation on this let people think something unnatural or supernaturel happening but not the case and if you need more answer just go to google and search for scalar EM weapon and effect and you will have an idea.
A++

One thing every mammal animal and fish need to live is oxygen.
yes other things also but if these things all have oxygen deficency in common, my guess might be
to much methane in the water and air?

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
What caused that Hypoxia????

Can you answer that?

Maybe the birds were flying high when strong turbulent winds pushed them to higher altitudes where there is less oxygen which caused Hypoxia.....

That wasn't so hard was it?

Sorry have you never seen birds fly in high winds before? far greater than any turbulent updraft

Oh not to mention This is a very very common thing and we would see 100X more cases of bird deaths which we don't because a strong turbulent wind would not pose any danger to any bird

Originally posted by randomname
this looks like the beginning of those bad movies about the apocalypse. the movie opens with scenes of thousands of birds dropping from the sky.

Yeah, Thank you for the optimistic insight...
Now I willbe able to go to bed without any worries

I'm pretty sure to much methane in residential areas would be notice by the people living there.

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
What caused that Hypoxia????

Can you answer that?

Maybe the birds were flying high when strong turbulent winds pushed them to higher altitudes where there is less oxygen which caused Hypoxia.....

That wasn't so hard was it?

Sorry have you never seen birds fly in high winds before? far greater than any turbulent updraft

Oh not to mention This is a very very common thing and we would see 100X more cases of bird deaths which we don't because a strong turbulent wind would not pose any danger to any bird

edit on 7-1-2011 by BRITWARRIOR because: (no reason given)

no hypoxia or anything. bird have the ability to know before something will hit : before earthquake birds leave the area. also before bad weather birds leave the area they knows. but if something happen human made here is the problem.