FACT CHECK: Mass bird, fish deaths occur regularly

i think fish are dieing cause its the ending of the pisces... all the birds dieing might b cause we are entering the age of aquarius...water bearer is an air sign.. birds fly in the air and fish swim in the water DUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I understand. The other thing is it is not quite natural. If it had to do with tech, it was man-made.

Maybe this is the normal reaction to the tech, but it is not normal as in this happens all the time. Hard to explain.


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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by Sentinel412

 

Does GPS rely on the magnetic field.

Nope, but the softwares are using calculations based on the present N, W, S, E. Plus all the GPS stuffs are also coming from a satellite network (Especially aircraft GPS over the oceans.) If the magnetic poles are shifting, few things surely will change in our orbit too, what maybe the satellites are not going to like at all.

For example: if you launch a rocket, based on present coordinates and you're missing just one degree, that's already making a huge difference within hundred miles. Now, if the guys at NASA are launching a missile where the degree calculations will be incorrect because of this, the missile will be somewhere else where it should be. Same with aircrafts. You're taking off from N.Y. and you're heading to 075 to 090 to fly to London. But if that thingy is not correct and there is a slight change, such as your original course what you believe is 090, but in the reality it's 100, you may end up in Spain or in Africa, just because of that 10+ degree.

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Glad I could clarify my thoughts for you. It's often hard to type long posts on here without people skipping over it regardless of how credible it may be, so I tend to keep my posts short and that may sometimes not deliver my point correctly, but what can ya do??

And yes, I agree, this doesn't appear to be natural, thus I can only assume that E.O. Wilson was onto something mentioning communications technology as a culprit... there are hundreds of satellites out there. ( UCSUSA ).

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Where did i ever try to force anyone? I brought a different idea and was basicly lynched for it and called a "disinfo agent" from the start *shrugs* and i didnt even bring any disinfo...

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Actually, yes. AIDS did the same thing. It's called activation.

Realizing I can't speak for everyone, I feel confident saying most of us know that mass deaths happen in nature, attributed mainly to disease or other environmental factors. We also understand that's not uncommon, and that's not the reason this current story is a story.

What makes this a story is they're dying mid-flight and no one knows why they're dying. They haven't been found to have a disease. There's been no reasonable explanation offered. Fireworks? LOL they might as well say the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz punched them to death while in flight. That's about as believable as the fireworks explanation.

Trying to say this occurs regularly because you have proof of a large number of ducks dying from botulism is like the people who say they can recreate spontaneous human combustion with a pig carcass by "just dousing it with a little gasoline and creating a spark to get it started..." That's missing the entire point!
A. The ducks died because they had botulism.
B. These birds died because.....?
See the difference in A and B there?

When you remove an unknown variable and substitute a known variable in it's place, then of course it isn't a mystery....but the solution you come up in that scenario is incorrect because you compromised the equation.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by Sentinel412

 

Where did i ever try to force anyone? I brought a different idea and was basicly lynched for it and called a "disinfo agent" from the start *shrugs* and i didnt even bring any disinfo...

Why did I treat you on that way? Because you act like one. It's that easy.

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by ShogunAssassins

 

um....what date?Did I miss it?

You're the one mentioning a date.

I mentioned some dates previously of animal die offs that have happened in the past.. Just some easy fast ones i looked up iin 5 minutes, nothing big..

"July 12, 1873

Dec. 19, 1984

Was another big year for strange animal death. 2005 "

Originally posted by theinfernal
SHOGUN SAY:
People are talking about it because of the date.. Had this happened two years from now no one would.

edit on 7-1-2011 by ShogunAssassins because: (no reason given)

Unless we get GOOGLEFUTUREtm we will never get to discuss events two years from now!


As i said, people are talking about it because of the date and nothing more.. Its all the 2012 hype dont ya know!

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Yep. That's it. A lynching because I ask for proof of normalcy, and I get incomparable events and call you out on it. All the while you are slinging mud.

That sure as hell sounds like a lynching to me. Get a rope!

 

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I gave plenty of info to you on this happening many times before.. You are the mud slinger and the one going on about the same thing.

Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

dont you mean when has this been reported before by the 24 hour news media that needs something new to talk about every 5 minutes. Next year when people report bird deaths the editors will say "meh bird deaths are so last year , bring me something new"

You wont hear about them and in your mind they're not happening becuase theyre not on your interweb or tv.

I 100% agree with the OP after looking at the stats. This is a media fad. Your only hearing about the smaller ones becuase every 2 bit hick paper or news station is copying the "big boys" CNN etc and running the story.

Exactly!

Originally posted by Sentinel412

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
Also where do you get this crazy 2,040,000 creatures number?

For example from the news? But if you just check the data, you also can calculate it with a basic "Average" calculation. More then 300+ tons of fishes, plus tens of thousand birds... add them together and you get a similar number.

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300 tons of fish, You are going to need to know the type of fish and itsthe avarage sizes of those fish.. Or you could be adding up walmart goldfish for all i know.

Shogun. And before you would ask again why do I treat you as a disinfo agent... this is the reason what you did in the last five posts. When people are explaining everything (As few of them did before on this page and the previous one), suddenly you appear and you answer to random questions where you're leaving all the large quotes in your comments, just to push all the info back. This is a typical disinfo behavior what you're doing now. Standard users are usually using one answer slot to answer all these what for you used five slots with long quotes to give one liner answers.

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Actually i dont think i will talk to you or the troll lemon anymore.. But anyone else in this thread i am more then open to debate on the subject that bird die offs have happened in the past and it has been talked about on ATS in the past. Which has been and is my point this whole time..The rest is just you being a weirdo...

I have no use for censorship or the type of nazism you are trying to bring to the debate.

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Thats because i was afk and just getting to this thread again but no.. You called me a disinfo agent from my very first posts, and it was for having an idea not like the one you have.. The same reason you are still in this thread and not one of the many threads supporting this subject as strange and odd. You could be in one of those threads being productive fairly easy instead of here arguing with me because i told people to look into the subject for themselves.. I am sorry if free thought is so scary to you.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by Sentinel412

 

because i told people to look into the subject for themselves.

And when I told you that I looked into the subject and tried to tell you where you're mistaken, you repeated the very same old line over and over again without even listening. If you do a research, do it properly mister instead of cut and paste the very same three dates over and over again, and say... I Googled it within five minutes.

By the way, here is your Google achievement, if you're already that proud for your "Three dates within five minutes" performance.

I am sorry if free thought is so scary to you.

The only person who is afraid from the other one's thoughts is you, because it's not what you want to hear or want to live. But the world won't ask us what we truly want.

Heres the problem i see. Theres no middle ground for a lot of the extreme personalities i see on here. Your either waiting for something extremely bad to happen to you and everyone around you
(probably cuz your life sux)
or
You think
nothing bad would ever happen to precious ol' you.

instead of talking about things that do nothing but disturb the mind and spirit, You should try speaking of things thats gonna advance you mentally spiritually and as a person. The ratio of negative to positive threads on here is ridiculous, but thats what people like....and you wonder y society is so sick??

is the situation so bleak where we can do nothing but argue amongst ourselves in vain? maybe
maybe not.

Originally posted by Tsuki-no-Hikari
reply to post by aoi3610

 

Apparently, you didn't even read the snippet in the first post.

Twice in the summer of 1996, more than 100,000 ducks died of botulism in Canada.

They died of BOTULISM. None of the birds that have died recently died of Botulism or any other disease. That's like me finding 10 million dead humans and saying, "No sweat. 10 million died of the black plague a while back so this is normal. I'm going to ignore the fact that all the people died from blunt force trauma because they inexplicably collapsed and cracked their heads on the ground."

When people look at millions of dead birds and fish dying all over the world within a week and say, "Nothing strange here because animals have died in the past," that has got to be a sign of massive brain damage on a global scale. No I'm not talking about the birds and fish. Congrats CSI ATS. Mystery solved.

Originally posted by Tsuki-no-Hikari
Now will people please stop with all of the gloom and doom? The ONLY reason this seems weird right now is because the news is actually bothering to report it.

People really need to calm down and stop panicking every time something they find to be out of the ordinary happens. Animals die. Extinctions happen. The Earth isn't a sealed off little bubble. There are diseases, weather patterns, and any other number of things that can affect animal populations. The USGS reports alone (see USGS link above are proof of that.

Sorry to be so blunt, but isn't really not denying ignorance when people freak out over every little thing that happens in the world.

EDIT: This link gives good insight into this as well: www.publicbroadcasting.net...

dailyme.com
(visit the link for the full news article)]

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Understood... So, might I ask, what exactly is the media's reason for reporting it THIS time? Is that not the real question here?