Liberal Elite perform mass child-rape

One thing Ive noticed is how "liberals" tend to call for "Balance" and "seeing both sides" when they are attacked but make no such calls when conservatives are attacked. The condenscending arrogance inherent in the belief that I dont know about "the other side" is beyond disgusting and reveals just how immature this mindset is.

reply to post by lucid eyes


Can you point us to any place where we can find liberals claiming that pedophillia is a conservative construct employed and enjoyed by conservatives?

Originally posted by lucid eyes
The most famous Liberals represent the Millions, just like the most famous Conservatives represent their Millions.

On what planet does .00001 percent of any population represent that population? In what plane of existence does Paris Hilton represent anyone because she is famous?

There are black sheep among any party. But its clear that sexual liberation, lowering the age of consent, defending the "rights" of child-molestors, attacking traditional roles of sexuality, attacking normal sex are classical left-wing agendas.

How is that clear? Reading your thread - not just your posts seems to do the exact opposite of make that clear. Maybe now is the time to begin making that case?

Originally posted by lucid eyes
In this thread only one person added research of their own (jibeho). So much for "collaborative posting". If you want to find the truth, stop attacking the messenger and go find some more documentation about this case.

I do not need to research anything about any school in Germany to know that the point of this thread - that they somehow represent American Liberals - is a huge steaming pile of crap.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
Did you really post "liberal elite perform mass child-rape"? Are you...are you purposefully trolling or are you that ignorant to assign sick people to a political ideology. Really, take you time and explain it to me, and do it without saying "read the OP" again. I would really enjoy hearing your rationalization of creating such a tread with a glaring, inaccurate, and divisive title like that.

Maybe the op could get a job at mox news as a reporter.
I think the title is a generalization, and of shock value to get the readers attention.

I'm new here, but I'm going to dive into this. This is a very cut and dry topic. I can't solve problems in Germany, nor do I much care to. All I know is if someone lays a finger on ANY of my kids, they're going to pick their nose with either a left elbow or a right elbow. If a politician tells me here in the US that I have to "like" such deviance, well, that's also ok. We have the 2nd Amendment to terminate their employment with. Is it just me or are the men on this planet becoming weak little whining pansies? My job as a husband and a father is to fracture skulls in the event someone sexually violates my children or wife, period. The person/people responsible won't walk away. Sheesh. Sometimes it's ok to hoist the jolly rancher and slit throats.

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The ones leading and attending this perverted operation are most likely pretty damaged themselves, natural perverts and/or sociopaths. No normal humanbeing would have anything to do with this kind of teachings. The older I become the more I learn about how sick people can be......there are no limits..and nothing will surprise me anymore.....I think.

Originally posted by seedofchucky
WoW another page of human misery to add to the history books . Although winners write the history books i wonder how much has never made the history books . What other events that were far to shameful to ever be written up . Amazing how we have the intelligence to know the differnce between right and wrong yet still cross it knowingly and willingly over and over and over again .

Liberals aren't the only ones who do this.
Obviously you missed Conspiracy of Silence....
Oh, that's right, Congress and the FCC had the Discovery Channel pull the piece.
Oh well, you can watch it here:


Link Here

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Nice post. I mentioned the Franklin coverup myself earlier and the OP explained that that is a different kind of child rape. That child rape is just kind of bad. That is not the same as liberal child rape, which is much much worse. Hopefully you get a better response.

reply to post by Sinnthia

Bring it.
There is only one kind of rape and if the OP has to justify rape to justify their viewpoint they are going to have problems. Sounds like someone's freudian slip is showing. We'll see.

reply to post by lucid eyes



Let me try this another way.

99.999984% of the people in the US who self identify as Liberals did NOT sign a petition in support of Roman Polanski. Now, please make that case about how Liberals supported Polanski again. Do go on to explain how all Liberals shop where Alec Baldwin says to.

There was an elite very old school like this around Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. I believe it was called the Northwestern Military and Naval Academy. It was the school that was used in the second installment of the Omen movies in the late 1970's.

Though it was one of the most prestigious prep schools in the nation it was abandoned in the 90s. The official story is that it was merged with another school. The unofficial stories as told by the locals are that virtually the same extent of pedophiliac rape and torture occurred there as occurred in the school that is the subject of this thread.

They say that a very powerful family of one of the victims was so enraged that they used their influence to dismantle the entire institution, and the towns people upon the vacancy of the buildings took care of the rest.

I had worked on a ski hill nearby one winter and happened to inquire as to what happened to the school and the stories went on for the rest of the night. They say that the grounds are haunted to this day by the ghosts of the tortured and murdered children.

I think it should be mentioned that any institution that has power over children, especially in a boarding situation, seems to attract the psychopathic pedophiles. Whether it be a liberal school, a military academy, or something in between, the predators who prey on children will be drawn to it. The same would seem to apply to all of the professions which are centered on children with the greatest number of predators being the child protective services, public school teachers, and children's ministries. The specific job is incidental to the degree of power that the position holds over the children.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
Did you really post "liberal elite perform mass child-rape"? Are you...are you purposefully trolling or are you that ignorant to assign sick people to a political ideology. Really, take you time and explain it to me, and do it without saying "read the OP" again. I would really enjoy hearing your rationalization of creating such a tread with a glaring, inaccurate, and divisive title like that.

The Boarding school was one for the Liberal Elite. Thats accurate.The sources are good.

edit on 5-1-2011 by lucid eyes because: (no reason given)

So long as you yourself were not attempting to use it to grind a left/right axe, which if that were the case, then my God, that in itself would be disgraceful, twisted.

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Listen up. The topic has been established, and nobody is missing the big picture. Reread the OP; for cying out loud look at the thread title. She isn't here to discuss child abuse/pedophiles. There are multiple threads on ATS concerning this subject, and they have been approached in a non-accusing, non-political way. She is simply using this emotionally charged topic to bash people who differ from her political persuasion.

Look back on page 7; here is her comment:

It's very much political. Liberals have been trying to lower the "age of consent" since ages. You wont find ANY conservative parties advocating that

Now do you see? " ANY conservative "parties" advocating this? " This is what her thread is really about. And why keep dancing around what she means? She's a republican bashing democrats. Short and simple. I at least want her to realize that others have seen through this rather vicious and transparent ruse. I find it appalling that one could lower themselves to this calumny, propagandizing, and willingness to trash millions of people in order to make a false political appeal, and build a strawman argument.

Gawd. :shk:

I've said my piece and am unsubscribing from this thread.

ETA: Frontkemper; My frustrations herein are not directed towards you. Others have actually attempted to guide the thread to discuss child abuse, but notice the OP won't have it. She keeps re-directing it back to the political issue, as shown above.

I think I'm done with this thread.

I've never had a friend or "fellow Leftist" advocate molesting kids.

I have, however, attended an all boys school that was highly Conservative, had all the rhetoric of being tough, self-disciplined and not making excuses. Personal Responsibility! We had to attend a fire and brimstone type Church. I used to compete for how many logs I could carry on my back to the worksite two miles away. It made me stronger, self-confident, and tougher.

However, I've been anywhere that had more Leaders trying to screw more kids. The people who wanted things to be less destructive for kids, did NOT get promoted, while the molesters helped push each other to the top. I think that's how every institution works when Authority is absolute and cannot be questioned.

>> Totalitarian and Theocratic nations, all makes sins out of things that they WANT to do. The Taliban, will kill an openly gay couple or stone a woman that admits to rape. But not the rapist. They will have parties for the Elders, and young boys are encouraged to dance suggestively. Then the old men have their way with them.

The Saudis, also have the same practice; a LOVING, relationship -- that is forbidden, means death. But you can rape and take advantage of kids.

It doesn't have to be just the one thing. In the USA -- you can get groped going through TSA screening "to protect us all from terrorists" -- though the people too stupid to stop it, got to NOT be investigated and got lots more power. But, if you give up your right to privacy and liberty, you can get a Quick-Pass that will let you NOT be scanned and groped. Hopefully, no terrorist will just go through the Quick-Pass crap and just carry a bomb on board. Or -- if they take a private jet -- there is no security at all! So, privacy is for the unquestioned elite, and we just sit around and let them tell us who the bad guys are -- and WHY they are angry.

>> These are all FEAR-based societies. You put people with power over others and no justice, and the only ones allowed to get away with the perversions or crimes, are the people who support your power. It's a similar recipe all over the world. BP supports the regime, and BP doesn't have to go to jail for killing thousands because they wanted to make a few more bucks.

Not that I care about some Progressive group 60 years or more ago -- but it's also very possible this was Nazis propaganda -- they were ALWAYS charging other groups with the worst perversions. They'd fit in well with people on Fox news. There is not one strand of DNA from THAT progressive group and the people who NOW call themselves Progressives here in America. Our #1 goal is justice. The other goal is environment and getting out of resource wars and making sure elections are actually monitored again.

>> This "discussion" is immature name-calling. And it tries to tell me what I THINK and believe in. For the record -- I think anyone can screw a goat who wants to. There are people who eat goats, and if the goats would talk, they'd probably prefer prison sex to being served with Mint Jelly. It is a victimless crime.

But seriously -- to try and make "Progressivism" all about child molesting -- you have to go back 100 years to some group that MIGHT have called it's ideas progressive? Ignoring, of course, current events... I can show you video clips of Republican Senators talking about Secession, Assassinations, and solving the Homeless problem by putting people in prison. The DANGER of Liberals, is always what they COULD DO -- some projection of evil onto the agenda of lowering Carbon emissions that COULD POSSIBLY hurt the economy more than Carly Fiorina sending thousands of jobs to India.

We don't ridicule different ideas -- we RIDICULE IDIOTIC IDEAS. Having Sarah Palin get air time, when all she has done is quit her Governor's job, dodge some legal troubles, and spout nonsense -- it's a true insult. There is a demonstrable difference between someone ignorant and someone who has IDEAS. And no honest person can say that half the Republicans on TV aren't ignorant. We have to DEBATE about torture being wrong. We have to debate that there should be justice, or that Bush should be tried for war crimes. If you want to have a court case with Obama on the witness stand -- be my guest, as long as Cheney goes first. Compromise with stupid and evil is not much of a compromise. Conservatives used to make sense, but they want everyone to join them on their way off a cliff.

We've got an economy in free fall -- and they can only talk about more tax breaks for billionaires. They want Austerity Measures to "stay on budget" -- and of course, the tax breaks and wars don't mean we have to borrow but keeping teachers on a payroll does?

I'm sick of the debate. To try and make this country solvent, and decent and stand for something -- every Liberal and Progressive in history has to be without sin -- before of course, we can hold any Corporation to account, can investigate any wrongdoing. Banks get to launder drug money, but a homeowner cannot miss a payment. We aren't talking about being anti-Corporation, we are debating against people who are anti-Justice. The entire family is getting RAPED by American institutions these days.

... rant over. This topic is moronic.

Originally posted by lucid eyes
One thing Ive noticed is how "liberals" tend to call for "Balance" and "seeing both sides" when they are attacked but make no such calls when conservatives are attacked. The condenscending arrogance inherent in the belief that I dont know about "the other side" is beyond disgusting and reveals just how immature this mindset is.

Ah, the old "everything is Equivalent."

Give us some actual events to draw from. I've heard all sorts cry out that "they are being attacked!" The crooks on Wall Street, the Blackwater guards who shot civilians, liars, shills, and bullies -- they all cry like stuck pigs.

WE should see both sides when JUSTICE is being done. But when someone turns their back and gets away with some great injustice, like BP, or the crappy way New Orleans was dismantled after Katrina,...

Powerful people are not EQUIVALENT to the people without power. I see that single mothers are ridiculed all the time about leaving a child unattended. It's not the same thing when someone can afford to hire a nanny.

>> Liberals do look out for Conservatives, when they are being attacked and have no way to defend themselves. So give us some links to these horrible Liberals who have not been criticized, and have been playing the Bully. And let's hear about some INNOCENT Conservatives without power who have been crushed by Liberals. I've even defended Rush Limbaugh's right to a fair trial on many occasions for drug trafficking.

We cannot be held accountable, for our leaders -- since we have a corrupt system that elects people who garner the most economic support -- usually from Corporations. It's all legal now. So there are almost as many crooked Dems and Republicans. You can't find many GOOD reporters who have kept their jobs. And the "leaders" who wind up on TV, are those who can be depended on to never pull back the curtain.

And as far as "knowing the other side" -- when I've heard people like yourself, describe Socialism or Liberalism -- it seems to be a mishmosh of "everything they don't like." What do YOU think that Liberals and Progressives actually believe in and want? I'd say about 50% of it would be agreeable to anyone calling themselves a Conservative. We probably disagree more on how to achieve our goals. Progressives, have the BELIEF that almost all problems can be solved -- but there is a lot of money to be made in making sure problems stay unsolved, as they are very profitable.

I am ashamed that a site that I enjoy so much is allowing such a horrific troll post to stay on their front page.

Is the propaganda REALLY that powerful?

Originally posted by lucid eyes
One thing Ive noticed is how "liberals" tend to call for "Balance" and "seeing both sides" when they are attacked but make no such calls when conservatives are attacked.

I can see (and agree?) to what you're saying here. I've seen it happen quite a few times. But I tend to think that maybe liberals also feel the same way. What's it called, "the victim effect" or something? I've seen it happen in religious threads, political threads and everywhere else where there's more then one opinion on a subject.

All I can say to it, is that we all need to sit down and re-evaluate what's more important: Us being "right", or us trying to do something about a crappy situation.

I have nothing to add to this ridiculous thread because it's just a troll and I refuse to feed him. I am thoroughly appalled that ATS would allow such drivel on their forums.

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How can I explain it to you if you're wholly incapable of perceiving the heart of the problem? So many people in this thread don't understand it's about the consequences of sexual liberation and instead think it's just about insulting liberals. So many people are incapable of thinking of the real issue the OP is bringing up.

Bull#. I don't hope it, it will happen, and I will rub it in your faces when it does, because I'm an ***hole like that. The only thing I'm hoping for is you to be alive when it inevitably does so I can be a smug idiot about how I was right and you were wrong.