Liberal Elite perform mass child-rape

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


You are suggesting I make the thread about "some child abuse scandal" without mentioning the connections and background and without showing the ties to politics.

Thats what Reuters and AP do, but thats not what I do. My intention is to show what theextreme forms of "sexual liberation"-ideology lead to. And this is not the only incident of its kind. Its another one in a long list of sexual liberation "experiments".

You have evaded all questions thus far so answer only one: Are you really claiming that the sexual-liberation movement is not a liberal movement?

And please quit acting like Im an idiot who doesnt understand that there are conservative pedophiles.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by jibeho
Certainly a bizarre institution with strong roots in the Progressive movement. The Nazi's seized The Odenwaldschule in the 1930's but it is difficult to find out much more beyond that fact during the WWII years.

This is just grand! You mention "Progressive" and "Nazi" in the same breath. A classic Reductio ad Hitlerum

Read the history of the school for yourself. It was founded on the principals of the progressive movement in an effort to shake up the current education of its era. Fact. The nazi's seized the school. Fact. The founder of the school moved operations to Switzerland. Fact. I suspect that Hitler didn't like the message taught by the school.

Facts are facts. History is History. I drew no connections between the progressives and nazis other than the
fact that the school and its structure were taken by the nazis. Nice try though!

Let me save you some trouble

Founded in 1910 by educational reformer Paul Geheeb, the Odenwaldschule was a crown jewel of the progressive education movement, renowned for its emancipatory pedagogical innovations and sweeping curricular reforms. In the tumultuous year that followed that fateful spring, Geheeb moved from an initial effort to accommodate Nazi reforms to an active opposition to the Third Reich's transformation of the school. Convinced at last that humanistic education was all but impossible under the new regime, he emigrated to Switzerland in March 1934. There he opened a new school, the Ecole d'Humanite, which became a haven for children escaping the horrors of World War II.

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Originally posted by Billmeister

This has nothing to do with any political ideology. PERIOD!

This particular case has everything to do with political ideology. And there is nothing you guys can do or say to cover that up.

The idea started with the liberal question "Why not break traditional sexual roles?".

reply to post by lucid eyes


They think that you're calling all liberals pedophiles when you're really talking about the logical consequences of following the ideology of sexual liberalism.

Originally posted by manna2

I am amazed how the liberal left is so offended....offended not by the acts against the kids but that it wasnt blamed on a conservative.How seriously sad this thread became.
No wonder the kids are lost, the adults are worried about protecting their ideologies at their expense.

edit on 6-1-2011 by manna2 because: (no reason given)

This is was shocking to me too. I have now repeatedly confirmed that I believe there are plenty of conservative examples of child-molestation, yet these liberals keep pounding their denial and their "PERIOD"s down peoples throats. Thats usually how they react when their creepy agenda gets exposed, but this is disgusting because there seems to be no concern about the root causes of these events, only for bashing conservatives.

Originally posted by 547000


They think that you're calling all liberals pedophiles when you're really talking about the logical consequences of following the ideology of sexual liberalism.

edit on 6-1-2011 by 547000 because: (no reason given)

Wow...someone who gets what this thread is about...at last.

It's hilarious how the very word "liberal" once meant tolerance and open-mindedness, yet an abundance of people who call themselves "liberals" viciously and relentlessly attack anyone who disagrees with them. They take great offense at the slightest reference to anything and everything that runs contrary to their belief system. They then proceed to mock their enemies (anyone and everyone who dares disagree with them) with their infantile, condescending jabs. They fancy themselves "intellectuals" because they read a couple wiki articles.

The silly attacks on the OP have outed these phony liberals. The OP has clearly stated his reasoning for his comments no less than 4 times, but the attacks continue.

Listen up "liberals"....Everyone has a right to their opinion, and it may differ from yours. It may run totally contrary to yours. It may even offend you. Grow the hell up and deal with it like an adult.


(I'm not a conservative, by the way. I pretty much despise politics in general)

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It's just one of those ideas liberals cannot think about or refuse to and make excuses for. Kind of like economics.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Billmeister

This has nothing to do with any political ideology. PERIOD!

This particular case has everything to do with political ideology. And there is nothing you guys can do or say to cover that up.

The idea started with the liberal question "Why not break traditional sexual roles?".

I apologize for swaying from the OP, this is a very important topic to me, and I truly believe that political philosophy has nothing to do with whether or not one commits child abuse. I do not consider myself a liberal or a conservative, but rather a free thinker, PERIOD! (I see that capital letters seem to have confused you as to my possible political affiliation)

To the OP: The way I read the articles, this was a 70's revolution movement that went too far, and is only "officially" attached to left-wing politics through Green Party politician Daniel Cohn-Bendit. The only concrete example (though one is one too many) is of the "Commune 2" experiment where 3 women and 4 men tried a deranged experiment with 2 children.
The rest details

the Rote Freiheit ("Red Freedom") after-school center was unorthodox. The goal of the center was to shape the students into "socialist personalities," and its educational mission went well beyond supervised play. The center's agenda included "agitprop" on the situation in Vietnam and "street fighting," in which the children were divided into "students" and "cops."
The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

As others have also noted, these type of environments will attract people with pedophile tendencies, regardless of their political philosophies.

Your OP's opening paragraph deals with abuse (mainly of pupil on pupil) happening in a private college, I argue that this, sadly, seems to not be such an exception, and the political climate of the day does not have any connection to the vile acts perpetrated. One only need Google "abuse + private school" to find a disgustingly thorough list of examples.

Again, I apologize from swaying from the OP's political angle to what I believe is the more important discussion of institutionalized child abuse as a whole.

very respectfully,
the Billmeister

Wow this is sick. The people who done this should be hanged

Its very much political. Liberals have been trying to lower the "age of consent" since ages. You wont find ANY conservative parties advocating that.

Age of Consent Reform

In 1979, the now-defunct Dutch Pacifist Socialist Party supported an unsuccessful petition to lower the age of consent to 12

The modern Communist Party of Great Britain lists abolition of age-of-consent laws among its immediate demands, with the added provision that there be alternate legal methods to protect children from sexual abuse.[18]

Dutch Pedophile Party

A political party with a paedophile agenda has been registered in The Netherlands, prompting outrage among many parts of society. The party plans to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and for legalisation of child pornography and sex with animals.

The party says its aim is to break taboos and fight intolerance. Its members say they want paedophilia to be freely discussed, arguing that a ban just makes children curious.

Originally posted by Billmeister
The way I read the articles, this was a 70's revolution movement that went too far, and is only "officially" attached to left-wing politics through Green Party politician Daniel Cohn-Bendit.

Not at all. The school is liberal/leftist. The Kommune mentioned was socialist/leftist. The perpetrators were Green, Left, Liberal and Socialist. The philosophies were based on liberal "sexual liberation". Anti-Vietnam, Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Corportatism, Sex-Lib, Womens-Lib...its all liberalism. See also my last post.

Its very important that the facts not be obscured again, like they have in past mass-rape incidents involving leftists.

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Sorry OP.

No Stars
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Why?

For painting with such a broad brush.

OMG, and I can do this to Republicans too. Who would've known?

* Republican aide, Alan David Berlin, was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15 year old boy while dressed in a panda costume.
* Fox News producer Aaron Bruns pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 10 years for possessing child pornography.
* Republican activist and former presidential campaign chairman Jeffrey Claude Bartleson was arrested on charges of sexually molesting a 5-year old boy.
* Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.
* Republican parole board officer and former legislator George Christian (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.
* Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
*
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl. * Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. * Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer. * Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug '___'.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.

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Or maybe how Republicans apposed a bill to help rape victims get prosecution:

Yesterday, 30 Republican senators opposed an amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill that would prohibit federal defense contractors like Halliburton/KBR from getting money "if they restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court."

Really, guys? Opposing a bill intended to let rape victims get prosecution? That's truly a new low for the Republican party.

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I mean, I could go on and on with this stuff. You act like you have no agenda, but you clearly do. You're acting like you're "above" liberals, but it seems like I can find crap on any political party, religion, and connect rape and pedophilia to it. it's not hard. So really, what's your point?

Originally posted by ColeYounger
It's hilarious how the very word "liberal" once meant tolerance and open-mindedness, yet an abundance of people who call themselves "liberals" viciously and relentlessly attack anyone who disagrees with them. They take great offense at the slightest reference to anything and everything that runs contrary to their belief system. They then proceed to mock their enemies (anyone and everyone who dares disagree with them) with their infantile, condescending jabs. They fancy themselves "intellectuals" because they read a couple wiki articles.

The silly attacks on the OP have outed these phony liberals. The OP has clearly stated his reasoning for his comments no less than 4 times, but the attacks continue.

Listen up "liberals"....Everyone has a right to their opinion, and it may differ from yours. It may run totally contrary to yours. It may even offend you. Grow the hell up and deal with it like an adult.


(I'm not a conservative, by the way. I pretty much despise politics in general)

The OPs reasoning makes about as much sense as that of the child molestors in question. You'd both do good to comprehend the difference between reason and excuse.

"Everyone has a right to their opinion, and it may differ from yours. It may run totally contrary to yours. It may even offend you."

I like that statement, it's ironically "Liberal".

Originally posted by Helmkat

Sorry OP.

No Stars
No Flags

Why?

For painting with such a broad brush.

None of you are willing to point out the parts of the OP that are inaccurate. Not one of you. Its hit-and-run-posts all the way.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Billmeister
The way I read the articles, this was a 70's revolution movement that went too far, and is only "officially" attached to left-wing politics through Green Party politician Daniel Cohn-Bendit.

Not at all. The school is liberal/leftist. The Kommune mentioned was socialist/leftist. The perpetrators were Green, Left, Liberal and Socialist. The philosophies were based on liberal "sexual liberation". Anti-Vietnam, Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Corportatism, Sex-Lib, Womens-Lib...its all liberalism. See also my last post.

Its very important that the facts not be obscured again, like they have in past mass-rape incidents involving leftists.

What does Vietnam and 'Corportatism' have to do with this?

You're a wind-up merchant, at best.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Helmkat

Sorry OP.

No Stars
No Flags

Why?

For painting with such a broad brush.

None of you are willing to point out the parts of the OP that are inaccurate. Not one of you. Its hit-and-run-posts all the way.

I'll bite.

"I guess this explains why American Liberals keep defending child molestors such as repeat child rapist Polanski"

Provide evidence that American Liberals defend child molestors and Polanski. We'll start there. Seeing as you're restricting your arguments to only your OP, and non of the Nazi drivel that followed.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Provide evidence that American Liberals defend child molestors and Polanski. We'll start there. Seeing as you're restricting your arguments to only your OP, and non of the Nazi drivel that followed.

It was all over the [url=http://www.indiewire.com/article/over_100_in_film_community_sign_polanski_petition/#]News[/url some time ago. Or am I to believe that its only a coincidence that not a single conservative signed the petition or called for Polanskis freedom?

The guy is a repeat child-sex offender and the international left is still campaigning for him. Like you calling me a Nazi, they call the judical system "Nazi".

Any other parts of the OP you think are inaccurate?

I got the story from a liberal mag, btw.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Provide evidence that American Liberals defend child molestors and Polanski. We'll start there. Seeing as you're restricting your arguments to only your OP, and non of the Nazi drivel that followed.

It was all over the [url=http://www.indiewire.com/article/over_100_in_film_community_sign_polanski_petition/#]News[/url some time ago. Or am I to believe that its only a coincidence that not a single conservative signed the petition or called for Polanskis freedom?

The guy is a repeat child-sex offender and the international left is still campaigning for him. Like you calling me a Nazi, they call the judical system "Nazi".

Any other parts of the OP you think are inaccurate?

I got the story from a liberal mag, btw.

You evaded my question. So I will repeat it; Provide evidence that American Liberals defend child molestors and Polanski.

If you need me to translate the question into your native tongue, I can. I also have some coloured crayons on hand, you may better be able to read if I write out the question with crayolas.