Expert: Storm likely killed thousands of birds.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


You study physics? I doubt it. I have you a chart of the day the dish died. I love how many people on this site study physics. One of my best friends graduated with a full scholarship from the university of chicargo. Josh Elliott. He studied subatomic physics undergrad fully paid at McGill. Now he designs weather modeling software in Brooklyn. We have been chatting the last few days over this very event. His take is there is no way anybody knows what is happening yet. Mistaking initial reports for fact is not something a scientist would do. Calling drastic weather changes normal is premature and notes Chesapeake bay is still one of the most polluted in the us.

Why were croaker the only dish to die. There are a verity of species and even more sensitive fish in the bay.

I unlike you also have no problem being wrong. You can't learn less unless you are bull headed.

My backround is in cultural anthropology with a minor in physical. I finished school after my 6 years in the military in 2005. While in school I learned how nearly every indigenous culture in the world knows the environment is changing. Some cultures are drastically reducing offspring and some not having children at all because of it.

I have never said it wasn't possible and as a scientist am pretty careful when using words like regular or natural or common.

The choice of words you use are not of a scientist so i call your bluff. Reading physics books is not "studying" physics. You have the ideology of an engineer which is fine.

Take note that the scientist say "most likely" or "probably".

The is because the research will take months to do.

Even in social science we don't draw conclusions until thorough examination is done.

So yeah I have no physics experience save a 101 class before I entered the service. But I do know it's not normal. I can guarantee there will and are already conflicting scientific beliefs on the dieoffs and later when I have more time I will site actual reputable science journals.

My point is that it is not normal or regular which as a scientist needs to be defined.

For instance you sight this happened in 1976 (after a major oilspill) and 1980. Three times over 30 years is a rare occurrence by definition. Also the study on pollution and the effect of currents and water density is being done.

While dish dying from exposure is to be expected the reason for The occurrence is another all together.

reply to post by Movescamp


That is all you got? A big long winded post with no substance..

You failed. You have failed over and over and over to show ANYTHING that would disprove my theory. You have made countless errors in both reading comprehension and science, and you even used straw man arguments, and misconstrued the argument at hand in a last ditch effort to even come close to supporting your views.

Originally posted by Movescamp
You study physics? I doubt it.

Your doubts and judgmental underestimation of me will be the reason for your defeat.

It is now, more than ever, pointless to even try to discuss this with you.

Goodbye.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


It's funny how let's see you have said that three times. You are incorrect in assuming I have presented no evidence for I have plenty.

I have not "lost" anything. You haven't presented any theory but over and over state it is fact.

You are the one who can't read nor do you define or understand the language you use.

You have nearly every post on this website acting like a tempertantrum 2 year old and cannot disagree without being disrespectful not just to me but everyone.

You outright lie and skew your own statements from the past.

You never stated it was a theory but instead boldly and belligerently present your beliefs as a fact.

You ignore the fact that not all scientist agree it's normal and have certainly not completed their study on the situation.

I have to say I feel sorry for someone like you. To know everything means you are full and cant learn more. Like I said yeah I know you don't study physics. Maybe engineering. Scientist know theories need to be presented as such and you lack of language understanding or definition show that.

I would love for you to prove the facts you present. Your last post is the first time you even slightly emplies this was a theory. You have been stating over and over it's a fact.

Your theory is just a theory like everyone else here.

You fail to adress that pollution in Chesapeake bay may be the cause either directly or indirectly.

See just because there was not substantial poison found it doesn't mean they were not effected in the spawning period, the gestation period, their DNA, the water temperature etc. A real scientist will take the time to thoroughly research the situation rather than say they know based on a preliminary report.

I think I might have found a probable source location of the "radar plume." This picture / images supports a geologic source. Professional Geologists, please comment, since I am working on "intuition."

Here is the image:



Supported by: Jan 2, 2011 ... Arkansas Game and Fish Press Release: BEEBE, Ark.-- Friday night, ... About 2000 black birds fell from the sky off Windwood Drive.

If you notice the "probable source" is to the left of Windwood Drive in Beebe.

I am confident this is the source, and if it is so, then something major pushed gases with such force as to kill the birds as they roosted and throw them over the houses to the street. This is it folks!

Note: And please don't sit there and offer theories while this one I present is credible; it's more logical than any other theory, especially when backed up with a good source. I get rather tired of ill-informed folks spouting theory after theory while they disregard and attack rational folks that have very credible explanations of an event.

If you want to spew-out junk, do it on Facebook or MySpace; or better yet, go get a degree in Online Journalism. Some folks actually have college degrees in the field.

reply to post by Movescamp


You have demonstrated over and over that you have no clue what you are talking about. It's people like you I get frustrated with, and yes I do show attitude. It's people like you who directly ignore common sense and logic and continue to spew B.S. and lies. Like your B.S. about water being colder on top. Your B.S. about the temperature of the water not being near-record lows. You even claimed I don't believe in climate change, completely ignoring my first and second post and the ENTIRE point of this topic, which proves you are not capable of reading AND you spew B.S..... All this entire time, it was stating all this as theory. A very very plausible theory. So your B.S. about me claiming it is fact is B.S. You are wrong AGAIN. You fail over and over. Your B.S. is continuous, and every time I prove you wrong, you ignorantly carry on and spew more B.S. Go away now troll. Your done.

reply to post by trekwebmaster


Yes, what was detected on radar could very well have been a microburst.

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I bet these birds got trapped in a microburst, which is responsible for many aircraft crashes too.

Here is what a microburst looks like on radar:

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Pretty much identical to the radar in Arkansas. I am now more than ever convinced the birds were killed by weather phenomena.

One way that this could be happening in different parts of the world on the same day could possibly be relate to some nasty solar activity, even if at night, or what what seems suspicious is a space based weapon testing.

And once again, I post the information.

Please forgive my interruption of the thread's "flame-war," but I have something meaningful to contribute to the topic-at-hand.

I have found a probable source location of the "radar plume." This picture / images supports a geologic source. Professional Geologists, please comment, since I am working on "intuition."

Here is the image:




Supported by: Jan 2, 2011 ... Arkansas Game and Fish Press Release: BEEBE, Ark.-- Friday night, ... About 2000 black birds fell from the sky off Windwood Drive.

If you notice the "probable source" is to the left of Windwood Drive in Beebe.

reply to post by trekwebmaster


What do you mean by "radar plume"?
Can you help me out here?

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