Expert: Storm likely killed thousands of birds.

Originally posted by butcherguy
Thousands of the same species though?

It makes a lot of sense, to be honest. The blackbird flocks reach biblical proportions around here at this time of year. We're talking about millions of birds here. One strong localized downdraft at the right (wrong?) time could easily send thousands of them crashing into the pavement.

Its certainly a more plausible explanation than fireworks.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Sorry i don't believe the medias version

It wasn't the media, it was the director of Cornell University's ornithology lab.

If you can find a better explanation that explains the evidence, go for it. So far, severe winds and turbulence seems to be true.

I don't see why you will believe the media when they tell you specifics about the autopsies of the birds, and how many birds, and the types of birds, etc., but oh no you can't believe them when they tell you a mundane explanation for the birds. That is confirmation bias.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
First Fireworks and now weather

First bio weapons, and now HAARP.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Little Rock, Arkansas, United States weather on News Year day was an overcast look it up with the weather network sites they should have data going back atleast a few days back.

This happened New Year's NIGHT in Beebe Arkansas (tornado alley) 150 miles away from a tornado that killed 6 people. There was recorded high winds in the area too. Wind gusts up to 22mph. A small bird can NOT fly very well in 22mph winds. That doesn't include winds in locations that haven't been measured, and small bursts of wind. they can NOT measure all the wind in every location. I believe the high winds could have crashed the birds into objects. There is evidence that backs that up too..

I am not the media, do you believe me and my research?

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
These experts are shills, you can easily tell.

Oh really, please do share your secrets to "easily tell" that "experts" are "shills".

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Originally posted by frugal
Why were they only one type of bird?

Originally posted by sliceNodice
LOL I can't stop laughing, my cheeks hurt so much... HAHAHA!!!!!
They must really think we are idiots. Storms aren't biased, they kill all birds in the area, not just blackbirds. Don't tell me oh but there was another species!! ROFL.

Can any of you AT LEAST READ THE FIRST PAGE OF POSTS???

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I will post it again:

It was not just blackbirds that died. It was "mostly" blackbirds... but not just blackbirds.

www.examiner.com...

Witnesses said birds, mostly red wing blackbirds, were pelting roofs, yards, parked cars and roadways.

Blackbirds Fall From the sky.

Reports saying it was just blackbirds are incorrect. It was mostly blackbirds, with a few other small birds also being affected.

Blackbirds are a nuisance bird in Beebe, so it's not rare to see thousands in one spot.

Red-winged blackbirds, and grackles, and starlings are three types of birds that were found dead.

Originally posted by sliceNodice
They must really think we are idiots.

Maybe..... Or maybe they think you don't read or research...

In response to the Arkansas bird deaths,I will just say, again, that the injury to the birds is not consistant with the statement that the weather was to blame. If it was the result of weather, there would be various injuries and breaks among all the birds. But we have blunt impact trauma with internal bleeding to the same area on all of the birds, which says that these birds flew into something with such an impact that they bled internally, went into shock and died. So the explanation offered is a wash, in my opinion.

Also, there was no report of tissue death or organ failure from poisoning, so I am having a hard time believing there was any kind of toxin or poison involved. But who knows if we are ever going to get honest information out of anyone.

Blackbirds are a nuisance bird in Beebe would
make you think twice about people that
*might* want to kill them off..

A tornado i'm sure would of been picked up on Doppler radar.

The tornado had to drop, gathered up the birds, then dissipated

dropping the birds...

A tornado that has dissipated already would not of been able to carry the birds.

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
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Storms have killed birds before.... So you are completely wrong about "no way".

Florida storm kills whooping cranes.

Also, just because the birds were found in Beebe, Arkansas doesn't mean they were from that location. Tornadoes are known to throw objects across entire state lines.

Being thrashed around in turbulent winds could easily damage internal organs of birds, and cause bruising (blood clots).

edit on 5-1-2011 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

True enough being thrashed around like that would damage the internal organs
of such a small creature.I'm would also assume that the bird's external parts
would also take a pounding. Feathers ripped out,wings mangled etc.
From what i'm led to understand the birds did not have the appearance of being
in a giant tumble dryer.
I claim no expertise in avian biology,that is for more educated types.
A few holes appearing in this story....Maybe?

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Sorry did not read your post before i posted
i agree fully with your statement

Yes, The "experts" are here, people well schooled in the field of 1000's of birds dropping out of the sky all at once. Nothing to see here folks, move along, happens every day,

reply to post by vor78
These are not owls we are talking about here. Blackbirds roost at night, in trees, normally.

Did the downdraft take any limbs off the trees when it tore the birds from their perches? That would make would be important info to know in this case.

Well they have to come up with some explanation why the birds died,so i guess the weather would be a perfect one,except it does not explain the fish dying also,did a tornado from Arkansas hit Brazil,Sweden and all the other countrys reporting this happening,i don't think so,this is not a isolated case it is happening all over the world,so the weather theory is a crock,fireworks also

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I don't believe that they were in their nests. As you say, blackbirds normally roost at night. For whatever reason, I think these birds happened to be in flight at the time. From there, I don't think it takes much imagination to see how bad weather, low visibility and a strong gust of wind could send a localized portion of the flock to its doom.

The real question is, of course, whether or not all of these incidents are connected. I'm certainly not ruling that out, and the timing is suspicious, but I'm also not going to jump to that conclusion just yet without concrete evidence.

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As I have mentioned before, I have trouble with the weather explanation, mainly because I have witnessed plenty of bad weather, including hailstorms, downdrafts, tornados and thunderstorms.

Not yet have I noticed the thousands of dead birds scenario.

Originally posted by butcherguy
Not yet have I noticed the thousands of dead birds scenario.

Exactly birds are one of the most sensitive animals out there, they have to be to survive. Just go near most in the garden and you soon see how quickly they get away. They have to be so sensitive to exist.

Defiantly em weapons or something. But nothing to do with weather, but they will put that on the news to satisfy people.

Interesting story though all this. Just shows how sensitive some animals are. Us humans are very adaptable aren't we.

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True, but were you ever looking for thousands of dead birds before? Most of this area is farmland, and it could be that it happens fairly often, but that its happening out in the middle of a field and no one notices.

In all honesty, I think its quite possible that the events are connected. However, I want to rule out the mundane explanations before moving onto something more ominous. To me, weather appears to be high on the list of likely culprits.

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I normally don't go looking for thousands of dead birds, but that doesn't mean that I would miss them if I am in their vicinity. I am not a city boy or a couch potato. When I say I saw nine waterspouts, I didn't see them inside a shopping mall.

I have watched so many 'biblical' sized flocks of starlings and blackbirds that I would hate to guess how many birds I have laid eyes on. I have watched a lot of flocks fly in to roost in the evening, and I have watched a lot of them flying into cover as a storm front rolls in to an area. What I have not seen is thousands of dead ones after a storm, and we used to walk the farm after a strong storm to make sure that no fences were down due to trees falling. I don't know anyone who has ever seen such a sight, either.

The media has their story for "us" - fireworks and weather. The autopsy reports are not even in, its going to take 2 to 3 more weeks and then the story for "us" will be again fireworks and weather. I have been thru tornados, lost the back of my house (no dead birds or fish), I have been thru at least 6 hurricanes (no dead birds or fish). At the moment due to the various locations where this is happening I am leaning toward something more in the range of a global occurance - solar flares, magnetic disturbances, earthquakes, etc. I really don't know, not an expert but I have definitely ruled out what TPTB are telling the sheeple and the sheeple will buy it and they know it.

Wanted to say I just put out peanuts for the squirrels - the blackbirds always grab them, not a blackbird in sight. I did have one Jay come and get one. I will now put seed in the feeders for the small birds (btw I haven't seen them in days) and see if they come around. I just looked out my windows upstairs, no birds in the trees or on the ground. Have only seen the one Jay in days.

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look lets be honest if it was the weather they would be bringing out weather radar data to prove it! If you want to figure it out go look at the weather radar for the imediate timeline for evidence of weather anomilies?

OP's post sounds legit and rational.

So all these dying birds should stop coming now...right?

If not...back to the drawing board.

But if so...well, sounds reasonable to me...I guess.

MM

I'm not swallowing the weather argument just yet. However, I sincerely doubt any of this has anything to do with HAARP.

The thing that catches my eye about all these happenings, is that the events primarily involve one species, either of fish or bird, and then there is the high degree of proximity as to when these events occurred and the disparate locations of these events.

Of course it could all be a totally wild series of coincidences, but somehow my gut is telling me otherwise.