Where do the primitive white cultures live?

Originally posted by Turiddu


Now going back 50-100 years, certain white ethnic groups lived the ancient ways of their ancestors in mainly clan/tribal settings. These groups include:

-Albanians
-Chechens and other North Caucasians
-Rural Sicilians
-Rural Greeks
-Greek Cretans
-Greek Cypriots

Going back 150-200 years you could probably include some of the Irish and Scots.

Most of the people you have listed, with the exception of the Greeks, lived under foreign rule during and before the time frame you have mentioned.They were subjugated people.Have a look at the Penal Laws instituted in Ireland by the British government.Scotland lays claim to some of the oldest known examples of civilisation.Sicily has been invaded many times, by Moors,Romans and Normans to name a few.I do not think these are accurate examples.

Generally, conquerors tend to "decivilise" the indigenous population by trashing their language,customs and history and in many cases their genealogy.Perhaps the real primitive white tribes are the ones who subjugate their fellow men in such a manner, the ones who commit millions of their own to the carnage of World Wars and colonialism.Their "sophistication" is built on a foundation cemented with the blood,sweat and tears of those they have vanquished.

reply to post by JohhnyBGood


Ironically its likely that the Caucasian genes you speak of in Egypt came from the Black Nubians in the area. This next line I am quoting from a page [www.roadtoegypt.com/egypt-information/egypt-people.html] listing the differen't Ethnic groups currently in Egypt......"Dark skinned Nubians inhabit the narrow valley south of Aswan. Although modern studies have been unable to establish the ancestry of the Nubian people or trace changes in the race through history, they carry predominantly Caucasian genes and appear unrelated to other Africans. These people once farmed the narrow margins of the river, planting palm groves along its edge. Hoisting triangular lateen sails above their boats, they hauled rock, transported villagers, and fished the clear, cold Nile.
A distinct group for centuries, the Nubians (called Medjy) served the pharaohs as traders and elite military forces. (Middle Kingdom models show them marching in precise rows bearing shields and bows or spears.) During the Late Period, Nubians traveled north, invading Luxor to reestablish classical Pharaonic culture." I think that perhaps you are confusing "Caucasian Genes" with Caucasian People!!! LOL! Alas Genetics is MUCH more complex than that my friend!! If you have ever seen a "Nubian" you would undoubtedly call them black, except they have "mostly caucasian genes" according to science and are distinct genetically from Africans. I think this is just another case that proves that Race is in the eye of the beholder, and really is meaningless. None the less Nubians were in Ancient Egypt....no history book doubts this. Nubians also have Cacasian genes. I think your mystery of the Caucasian Genes in Egypt has just been solved! LOL!

reply to post by orangetom1999


Just want to point out one more time my entire education up until masters was Jesuit. I went to Fordham which is a Jesuit university. My education was very good. I was taught I could question even my own faith. The big bang was discovered by a Jesuit priest as were many science based discoveries.

You question every educational aspect exept your bible. The king James bible is a paraphrase of the real wealth of religious texts. You seriously need to learn Greek, arahamiac, Hebrew, Persian, Arabic and Latin to really start becoming an expert or to even understand what you are talking about. Otherwise you are accepting state sponsored religion. You are naive if you think the bible itself isn't made to shadow over the real power of spiritual teaching. Christ wasn't an accident. The Essenes had been interbreeding spiritual hirearchy for centuries to create Jesus. It is no accident his blood comes from king David. The whole business of being born to poor people should be a red flag. His parents were esenes as was he.

The whole redemption for accepting Christ as lord and savior was created long after his death or the first bible (80 years after). Most people have zero understanding of the mysticism of the time. Sufis in that region today keep alive some of the mystical codes. Most Christians though have become unempowered by just accepting Jesus and not understanding the mystical revelations he found.

Some Caucasian tribe family names can be traced in Africa , Egypt and China .

Also , Hyksos tribe did have Caucasian element in it too .



Nebuchadnezzar's weapons were also built by the same Caucasian tribe .

Where do the primitive white cultures live?

france

the regions of the USA reffered to as " the bible belt "

slough [ a municiplality of the UK ]

Since this is in the conspiracy section, and having not read all 16 (?) pages of replies, i offer this (which is only what i have read) as a possible explanation (which i am not condoning but find interesting):

The dark skinned peoples were the true indigenous peoples of the earth, having come into existence through *true* evolution; the *white* skinned peoples, however, were the result of either ET genetic manipulation or a genetically modified *seed* planted (or created) by...ETs and put onto the earth, which is why the *primitives*--or indigenous peoples, tend to live "with" earth (having come directly from it), whereas the *whites* tend to live *against* nature, subduing and conquering it for their own ends. That actually kinda makes sense, when you think about it. Truly indigenous peoples--across the globe--when compared with *westerners,* or *whites*, live completely differently.

Strange, but just a thought, to consider.

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reply to post by EssenSieMich


Wow......you posted a very interesting question, and people met it with nothing but racist hostility! Not to mention, totally ignoring the difference between people choosing to live that way, and cultures that are not advanced. Political slurs, too. Sheesh. Even comments against people in certain locations. Bigotry is alive and well.

The question itself is a good one. There aren't any such cultures today. Haven't been any for a long time. I would postulate that, for a multitude of reasons, that racial group advanced faster. Location, culture, whims of nature; too many factors to say for certain, but suspect that's the case. Would be a great study for someone, though. Will pass the question along to my history buff hubby, and see what he thinks.

Originally posted by EssenSieMich
reply to post by ThinkingCap

 

No I addressed that in the initial post. The Hill Billies were not always that way. At one point their ancestors were in fact first world members of civilization who chose to migrate into the hills. The hillbillies of today are the result of the civilized becoming uncivilized. They are not indigenous cultures that have for all time been primitive.

Add to what you stated, the hillbilly people are not "primitive", but simply, in most cases, poor. Seriously dirt poor, and utterly ignored by groups claiming to want to aid the poor of the world. I happen to be Southern, and am somewhat familiar with the type. Not the same thing at all that you are looking for. I think some people just can't resist putting someone down, even though you made every effort for this to not be that sort of post.

Originally posted by Nameless Hussy
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Anyways, I have a question. Why did Neanderthal man -- who lived mostly in what is now Europe and had red hair and white skin -- go extinct?

edit on 1/4/2011 by Nameless Hussy because: (no reason given)

I heard a really good theory on that some years back, that they later discarded for no good reason at all. The idea was, and there was good evidence to back it, the Neanderthals were bred into the other groups. Not really gone, just too diluted genetically to show up much. Actually knew a couple of people in my younger days that had some rather Neanderthal-type traits.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by _Highlander_

 

What about Inuit? They were in the coldest climate with the least sun, and they are still brown enough to be "native" looking.

American Indians are also a native "white" culture, and they still exist on Reservations in the US.

Um......American Indians and Inuits are from Asian descent, not caucasian.

Originally posted by Syyth007
Most other "primitive" cultures are still primitive because of geographical isolation, along with a lack of available resources.

Oh this old chestnut... If it's not that, it's because the white invaders came and plundered their resources or sold them into slavery (like they weren't already doing it to themselves). Give me a break...
I suspect this topic has underlying racist motives. Whatever - I'll bite!
Plenty of African countries have abundant natural resources yet people still live in huts in tribal groups. It can only explained by genetics. Just take one country, Uganda. The Ugandan Asians are returning and they tend to be the entrepreneurs and business leaders. There is no love lost between black Ugandans and Asian Ugandans.
Here's a neat little story to illustrate the differences. I go into a shop in Kampala selling alcohol and ask for a business card (some friends operate a big safari business). Guy scratches head and disappears into the back, re-emerging a full 10 minutes later to say 'Sorry we have no cards' And that was it. WTF! Business card or no, most people with half of a brain (and certainly an Asian) would have thought about writing out some contact details. Says it all, really.....
My friends actually employ staff from other African countries because the locals are so hopeless. But of course it is 'racist', is it not, to acknowledge general differences between racial groups.
Which is why the Olympics will never be a level playing field. But that's a whole other topic methinks.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

I see that the idea of 'white guilt' has been firmly embedded as axiomatic in many of the respondants here - not at all surprising considering that the whole history writing and publishing business was hijacked and taken over early last century........

Really? Why don't you highlight these examples of white guilt, because oddly enough, nobody else sees it.

Are you serious? Look at the first several posts, the references to warmongers, hillbillies, Southerners, slavers, etc. We all see it, and it's appalling. Half the country is convinced that white people are responsible for all the woes of the world, and that's simply wrong. Altering history textsdoesn't actually change history.

Visit most of the council estates in the UK, there you shall find the answers you seek (Just park your car on the outskirts, don't carry valuables, and don't look the natives straight in the eyes, especially if they around 13-14 years of age and wear tracksuit or burberry)

Originally posted by Mr Headshot
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I'm Native American, I was raised in a highly Native American populated area. Do I begrudge white people for wholesale genocide of my ancestors? Not really. I mean, I have central heat and I don't follow buffalo around the plains on cold winter nights like tonight. I think that civilization is built upon the foundation of the people it has slaughtered. It happens. Doesn't make it right, but it happens.

Do you realize that calling American Indians, Amerinds, "Native Americans" is actually pretty racist and superior-sounding? I am Native American - I was born here, and so were my parents, their parents, etc. Using that term for a racial group isn't accurate. Happen to have a bit of what I call Indian blood (meaning American Indian), too, but that doesn't make me more or less "native American" than any other native of this nation.

A lot of posters are making a lot of jokes but i find this very question FASCINATING!! You learn something new everyday. Wow, just WOW!! I hope to have many interesting conversations when i bring this subject up.

Originally posted by gorrillaz
reply to post by EssenSieMich

 

lol heres the thing there are no primitive "white" races because and no offence ment but man was ment to be black whiteness is a defect in the genes and when we all split off from africa those who went north where there was less intense sunlight the pigment in their skin lightened then they decided to try taking over the world so to speak as they advanced through the ages

Based on your statement, you are saying that the race that composes only about 15% of the planet has somehow managed to take over? Would that not imply some superiority? I sense some illogical thinking in the reasoning here.....

Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by tom502

 

[snip]The other thing you are not aware of is neurological science. The brains of humans are all the same. The environment you are raised in however makes them brain physically develope differently. [snip]

Wrong. Scientific studies have shown that brains are not all the same, and intelligence is in fact hereditary. You can deny that all day long, but that doesn't make you correct, and years of studies incorrect. It isn't racist to point out that there are differences in the races, any more than it's sexist to point out the fact that there are differences between men and women. We are not all the same. That doesn't imply some superiority, and in fact the OP was careful to state that it was not his intention to make any racial judgments. Another poster pointing out that differences in the races could contribute to different developments isn't racist at all.

I think what's happened is that you have been exposed to some very politically-correct teaching, and are now unable to see that teaching for what it actually is, which is propaganda. We don't have to all be the same to be alright with each other. The world would be very dull, in fact, if we were all the same. Just as men and women have different strengths and weaknesses, so do different races. Studying and discussing such things is scientific, not insulting or racist.

Originally posted by Movescamp
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Einstein was of Jewish decent.

Tesla did not Go to college in the us. He went to school in Prague (which is in eastern Europe)
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Jewish people are, as far as race is concerned, white. Tesla was also white. Since when did this become a discussion of the United States vs the rest of the world? The topic is primitive cultures, not modern politics.

Originally posted by PublikOUTLAW
no offense to anyone but from my studies "white men or the pale skinned" were made by genetics in the past civilization by YAKUB(look it up) all other races are the original MAN and WOMB-MAN. the "whites" or pale skinned or w/e u wanna call them(elite) were cast out of the holly land to the rocks and caves of euoropa, were they were cast on the left side of their brains.. so u see they come from cave men not all the other races..so they were the last to do anything!!!!! last to travel last to build last to do everything!!! put it all 2gether yall

"Studies?" I don't need to look up your terminology because I already happen to be very knowledgeable on such matters. What this poster is attempting to claim is that sitting in front of an Islamic cleric who knows nothing about the world beyond Islamic writings and the speeches passed to him from other local Islamic writers makes him/her a scholar in all things involving anthropology, history, history, archaeology, philosophy and world religions.

The Islamic Pride movement teaches its adherents that all great achievements came from the cradle of civilization and that civilization was created by their god and that he created them in Northern African regions. The facts of history elude them. The separate cradles of civilization elude them. The great civilizations outside Egypt and Nubia are unknown to them. To their knowledge, their was no civilization earlier than their own or outside of their own. They have no knowledge of the lost civilizations of the Mediterranean or even of the Greek claims of Egyptian scholars teaching them of their own lost histories. While ancient Egypt predates almost all other civilizations, it does not predate all settlements.

From a religious perspective, in support of the poster, I must admit, in a slightly more eloquent fashion however . . . the Judeo Christian perspective agrees. The Holy Land lies centered around the Tigris-Euphrates river basins, in Jerusalem and downwards to the Nile. Mankind was dispersed throughout the world from that region. Topography and geological evidence supports what religion tells us, though men calling themselves scientists attempt to claim otherwise.