Bob Lazar seems to confirm Zecharia Sitchin

reply to post by Metallicafan


Barely a year. According to him, they have steady stream of compartmentalized employees come in, most of them dont have any idea of what the "project" is really about. Leads me to believe that even he doesnt have the full story. He was hired after one of the previous scientists supposedly killed himself on accident by messing with a reactor on board one of the crafts.

As far as the Bob Lazar "hoax"... I cant see why anyone would want to go on record with such an outrageous story. Lazar has had more ridicule than supprt, he doesnt try to "$ell" his story, and he's a very humble and private man. There's logical explanations for the "loop holes" in Lazar story and his tarnished work history. The same disinformation process has happened to many other whistle blowers.

Dont believe everything you hear about Lazar. Remember that he is a very intelligent man and, just like any good investigation, his story should be taken at face value.

Originally posted by VtaUFO
As far as the Bob Lazar "hoax"... I cant see why anyone would want to go on record with such an outrageous story. Lazar has had more ridicule than supprt, he doesnt try to "$ell" his story, and he's a very humble and private man.

Same can be said about the Heaven's Gate cult founders. They really didn't profit from their stories. Heck, they are even more radical, they took their own lives to give it more credibility (because they said it was a way to join the crew of the UFO trailing the Hale-Bopp comet). Do they also have credibility in your eyes?

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by VtaUFO
As far as the Bob Lazar "hoax"... I cant see why anyone would want to go on record with such an outrageous story. Lazar has had more ridicule than supprt, he doesnt try to "$ell" his story, and he's a very humble and private man.

Same can be said about the Heaven's Gate cult founders. They really didn't profit from their stories. Heck, they are even more radical, they took their own lives to give it more credibility (because they said it was a way to join the crew of the UFO trailing the Hale-Bopp comet). Do they also have credibility in your eyes?

The problem is, people want to believe so badly, they completely throw objectivity over board

Sitchins Theory is correct, in my opinion.

2012 is related to the events;

Although, as the Ancients went by a "Jewish" calendar which starts in March.

March 2011. 2012. Bigs thing are predicted.

reply to post by Colton


I am currently reading the third book of the series of the 12TH planet collection. The more I read, with all the research that has been done by Sitchin, I am sure there is absolute merit to his epiphany of this being the factual acts that took place to allow our species to be elevated to where we are and still not being able to find the missing link theory by means of scientific or archeological tangible proofs.
So far in the 3rd book of "The Wars of Gods and Men" there is so much acquired knowledge from time lines millennium's apart from one another, and at distances so great they could not have been coerced with both or all texts writers at these times and distances.
People shake their heads to these plausible explanation's, it explains everything that is human today and everything "God" like in belief systems of the entire planet. When one gets that kind of corroboration under one single point of study, it remains sheer genius to the articulated "Perfect explanation" of our over all existence, and for thing's of great conscious wanderings's of these issues , this is the "Most" accepted explanation that could be not only feasible but more than likely to have happened.
Missing link- "Gone"
Does God really exist?- "Yes." But not the way religious people are thinking it to be.
Our need to get out to explore the cosmos?- "We are genetically inseminated to want to leave our planet."
Where did the "Original" Bible texts come from?- From the Akkadians and the Anunnaki, just translated over and over again until they reached the point of distortion they are today by way of true and historical facts, not myth's.

I am an Atheist, But I always thought the bible was the rendering of a long forgotten epic of our reality. We are the creation of a "Higher Being" not a Higher power.

AtraHasis Text

Epic of Gilgamesh

And as for the doubting of there actually being any extraterrestrial origins in our planetary skies, there is nothing short of amazing of the Mahabharata Texts it's 5,000 pages of intricate registered stories of the Indian epics of war between a rather alien type of encounter's that could only be explained with what they were familiar with in that day.

Originally posted by Allred5923
reply to post by Colton

 

... with all the research that has been done by Sitchin, I am sure there is absolute merit to his epiphany of this being the factual acts that took place to allow our species to be elevated to where we are and still not being able to find the missing link theory by means of scientific or archaeological tangible proofs.

Yes Allred5923, I have to agree with you. Have you managed to dig through his source list in the back of the book yet?

I made a video on this subject dealing with various evidence (from both Lazar and Sitchin among others) that appears to corroborate your statement on this matter here:

... Where did the "Original" Bible texts come from?- From the Akkadians and the Anunnaki, just translated over and over again until they reached the point of distortion they are today by way of true and historical facts, not myth's.
I am an Atheist, But I always thought the bible was the rendering of a long forgotten epic of our reality. We are the creation of a "Higher Being" not a Higher power.

Again, I have to agree. I also made another video on this subject (again from both Lazar and Sitchin among others) dealing with various evidence that appears to corroborate your statement on this matter here:






I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

So many ancient illustrations and direct references of flying saucers. I've seen these videos on your channel, but I decided to watch them again because they're very interesting. There's no doubt in my mind that alien spacecrafts were seen in the sky by primitive people. Nearly every civilization has written records and drawings of them. The crystal that one of the quotes mentions is a crystal skull. There's 13 of them and they have the ability to store massive amounts of data (thousands to even millions of terabytes) due to the quartz content. If scientists can somehow retrieve the data from one of the skulls, maybe they'll find a video of Jesus' birth (artificial insemination) and his "resurrection" (levitation via spacecraft's anti-gravity lift for retrieval). The magical versions of the virgin birth and resurrection just don't make any sense and cannot possibly happen unless sophisticated technology is involved.

reply to post by Condemned0625


The crystal mentioned in the Area 51 briefing documents ... that was "presented to us" ...
was a hand- held unit that displayed moving images:


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The crystal skulls you mentioned are indeed a fascinating subject, and some actually resemble elongated bone skulls I have seen pictured on display in museums.

Originally posted by Condemned0625

There's no doubt in my mind that alien spacecrafts were seen in the sky by primitive people. Nearly every civilization has written records and drawings of them.

Yes one of your earlier posts also demonstrates that in great detail, with a dozen or so examples of them being metallic craft.

... maybe they'll find a video of Jesus' birth (artificial insemination). The magical versions of the virgin birth and resurrection just don't make any sense and cannot possibly happen unless sophisticated technology is involved.

Yes the "immaculate conception" aspect was quite the mystery until recent times.

Why people believe in alien UFOs without any credible evidence.

1 hour long podcast, excellent discussion!

reply to post by A51Watcher


Oh, I see. I thought it was referring to the crystal skulls. Maybe the handheld crystal device is made of some sort of highly advanced nano-crystalline technology...?

reply to post by MrXYZ


I do understand your point of there being "Other" explanation reasons for "Some" of the sighting's being reported, but for the most part, some people are not as versed as lets say some of us when it comes to the UFO phenomena.

Most UFOs end up being identified as clouds or other natural phenomena, or man-made objects such as balloons or aircraft.

Yes, most can be explained away as mere misidentification of the terrestrial sort, or hoaxes by those that wish to discredit such eye witness accounts and which, in my opinion has put this whole "UFO" thing into a tail spin of controversy and accusatory remarks of either delusional or complete nonsense by the skeptics that wish to use just those incident's as their only arguable proof for discussion that they are correct and the rest are a mass hallucination of sorts..
I have personally had my own "Personal experience's" with the UFO eye witness reporting, and let me tell you, it was no "Swamp gas any time I have ever reported such a sighting. The sighting's I had were usually corroborated by other witnesses.
I think it is ironic when some of these people say "Well, that's a hoax, I could hoax it by CG I!" but it is always after the fact or the report's. Kind of strange to claim that kind of way to thinking when the deed has been done.
I will agree that there are some good and bad hoaxes out there, and for the sighting's that get properly applied validation, well, that is good par for the course, but too assume that the ET probability is nothing more than a implanted mind controlling event? That's hogwash.

Originally posted by Condemned0625
reply to post by A51Watcher

 

... Maybe the handheld crystal device is made of some sort of highly advanced nano-crystalline technology...?

I can see how you could manage to encode data on various levels of a crystal, but to replay that data with no visible means of a movable light source (such as a laser) to reflect or project the data in sequence would be a neat trick.

I want to believe in Lazar but it's said he lied about his college degree and I wonder what else is he lying about.
Now I really believe in Snitch cause he took the Bible crap and transformed our history in one that we can really understand cause we evolved and are more intelligent now.

We have something of a slave as the Annunaki made us as we don't take action. Humans are most of the times very passive, we don't react to what's wrong, we do what everyone else is doing and are afraid of being different. I say we but I'm not like that, but I'm so tired to see lots of people being that I don't bother anymore.

reply to post by MyaGalactic

Now I really believe in Snitch cause he took the Bible crap and transformed our history in one that we can really understand cause we evolved and are more intelligent now.

We have something of a slave as the Annunaki made us as we don't take action. Humans are most of the times very passive, we don't react to what's wrong, we do what everyone else is doing and are afraid of being different. I say we but I'm not like that, but I'm so tired to see lots of people being that I don't bother anymore.

I think the real realization doesn't come from our ability to be docile and subservient, I think it was a writing to show the very beginning's of mankind's defiance of control and will to think on our own two feet. In all actuality, it was the beginning of our culture having the ability to "NOT" be under stringent control or regulated by means of impartial judgment.
I haven't gotten the "12TH Planet" series completely read yet, but I for one have no problems seeing how it all fits together and gives a much better picture of our past and our evidential creation upon this planet.
It is more practical than the Biblical ideology, it is more presentable by means of deciphering myth/legend or folklore as the bible is and there tends to be a much broader analytical equation and answer to the toughest questions of our existence an this planet. SO, "I agree with you when you stated 'Now I really believe in Snitch cause he took the Bible crap and transformed our history in one that we can really understand' with no remorse or deviant deeper perception."

Originally posted by Widashy
Bob worked at Sector 4 and was just back-engineering an E.T Spacecraft. He had very little knowledge about aliens. Also, if grays have altered DNA, it's just of the abductees. And Zecharia Sitchin is confirmed Reptilian( in league with Illuminati) by Conspiracy theorists like Arizona Wilder (She saw him at sacrificial rituals). So really what he said about Annunaki is not 100% Correct.

That all depends on what Arizona Wilder said is correct. 2 sides to the coin here. There are also the findings of 'Sir Austin Henry Layard' the archaeologist who in 1851 discovered information in Sumer regarding the writings of the Sumerians pertaining to the Annunaki Star Gods. Has he been discredited too?

Bob Lazar could be right or wrong but who is to say either way? There is a lot of disinformation flying around that is trying to discredit all those people but could that be just a ploy by the NWO to supress the truth?

The whole UFO/Alien field is full of DisInfo and MisInfo. while, the Lazar story is very interesting. reality is,
we really don't know how much if any of it is really true. I mean, the whole story could be true, or could be disinfo.
we don't know, and we doubt many such story's for many reasons. who knows, whats really what.

my guess would be if any of this is true, this would be a case of fact thats stranger than fiction. because, the truth
(if) would be so outlandish compared to what we believe to be true would boogle our minds...

probley the reason is locked up and secret....




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reply to post by Ghostinshell

The whole UFO/Alien field is full of DisInfo and MisInfo. while, the Lazar story is very interesting. reality is,
we really don't know how much if any of it is really true.

I have to agree with you here, even though I don't like the fact that there has been intentional derailing means to these events being factual and truth that was being told in most instances, the skeptics/debunkers and hoaxer's have cornered the market on why there is so much alternative arguments for the UFO/Alien abduction encounters

I mean, the whole story could be true, or could be disinfo.
we don't know, and we doubt many such story's for many reasons. who knows, whats really what.

You seem to be on a fence with that remark, but I suppose it is an honest observation, the thing is, with all the technology at our finger tips, it becomes easier to say "It's CGI." or "It could be hoaxed accurately" kind of rhetorical interpretation's.

my guess would be if any of this is true, this would be a case of fact thats stranger than fiction. because, the truth
(if) would be so outlandish compared to what we believe to be true would boogle our minds...

I for one think there is truth to Lazar's claims, how much is truth is another question though. It could have been elevated by progressive story telling from one person to another, but Lazar has some pretty influential friends that have been on our ATS forums and discussed this matter deeper than ever... "Where are you Mr.Lear?" hint-hint.

probley the reason is locked up and secret.

More than likely, this is the true answer for the lack of evidence. Our government has covered up many issues dealing with the Alien/UFO evidences, I mean, look at Roswell, the evidence was in his hand, until whilst taking the photo shoot for the UFO supposedly being a Weather/surveillance balloon, until recently, we didn't have the technology to question the validity of the weather balloon story, now it clearly states the there was something other than a "Weather Balloon" that particular incident.