Free energy 2000 Watt fuelless generator This is the reald deal!!!!

reply to post by hawkiye


Alright you made your point...I suppose I have to agree with that after reading your link. If thats true then, that is a shame and I got my hopes up for nothing. I have been up all night as it is 6:00am here now. With that being said thanks for the info

If anyone actually invented a "free energy" generator now, TPTB have already made it impossible to find on the internet. They have purposely spammed sites such as youtube with scams and hoaxes so that if a genuine device was to be invented, we would never know about it.

There could be some guy who's got one of these in his shed right now, with a demo of it working on youtube. But even if we did happen to stumble upon it (amongst the other 8 million fakes), we would just think it's a scam.

They've already won.

A FEW examples to back-up my claims...

www.youtube.com...
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www.youtube.com...
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All have this description under their videos...

Free Energy is real, but powerful people spend a lot of money covering this up and suppressing new technologies, don't believe the cover-up. Join the Revolution!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

From the website:

# Anti-gravity machines that can travel as easiily through outer space as through air. These can also be built to travel through water (oceans), and even through solid earth. # This former mechanism can be built as a device that is pedal operated (like a bicycle) and is able to fly through the air with no motor, wings, or propellers.

I'm going with good old fashioned hoax.

how does this particular device work? what keeps it going? he says it draws from the quantum field, how?

reply to post by Moose318


I feel your disappointment Moose318.

I am interested in the concept of overunity too, and have been watching these guys for years now..the problems are these;

They claim to want to free the world of dirty and expensive fossil fuels, they claim they want to help the needy and the poor with their technologies, they also claim that the cash they are constantly trying to prise out of people is to build a factory to mass produce their devices.OK, all noble ambitions i'm sure.

They claim their people have been set up with false criminal charges and a few people have even been murdered by those that seek to bury this technology...possible i suppose, since that is exactly what would happen if the barons felt their cash cow was threatened..they claim 14 odd labs have been burnt down and equipment and tooling stolen or destroyed. Again, this is plausible.

Only thing is, when you analyse the situation, it doesn't make sense.

Let's take this one at a time.

They want to get the world out of the clutches of the corrupt, money grabbing oil barons? Great, so do i.
Only thing is, they do *nothing* to achieve this goal. Where are the plans and materials lists of any of these devices?

Why are they not *giving* the poor, third world peoples of Earth this technology to improve their lives?

Why are they not open sourcing these technologies?

They claim to be raising money to build a factory...ok..where's the factory and the mass produced products?

There isn't one...after all these *years* of raising money from people, they don't have one. Just exactly how long does it take to set up a factory? 10 years..15 years, 50 years?

How much is the running total of cash they have for their factory? They don't say.

How much cash in total is required in order to build and equip their factory? They don't say.

Has work started on building and equipping the factory, and where is it located? They don't say.

How long do they expect it will be until they are to start manufacturing in their factory? Hmm..they don't say.

Will our children's children finally get to benefit from their devices, long after you and i, and millions of third world people are dead and buried?!

If multiple Witts labs have been destroyed, what makes them think this factory of theirs is going to be any different?

Scrounge up cash for 20 years, build the factory, watch it burn to the ground after a week or two? Is that a smart way to proceed considering what they claim has happened to personnel, buildings and equipment?

No, of course it isn't.

It is doing nothing toward their lofty goals of freeing the world from oil either..or saving hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of human beings, needlessly dying each and every year worldwide (not just third world people either).

If you had as your *primary* goal, the saving of the world and ending suffering of it's populations due to energy poverty, would you wait decades until you could build a factory? A factory that could easily be destroyed in a matter of days or weeks of opening? All the while, those people you claim to want to save are dropping like flies around the world..

You wouldn't would you..neither would i.

I would do the very thing that would *guarantee* mass production, would guarantee that human beings would never again have to suffer and die because of lack of energy, in fact *anyone* who was remotely sincere in their claims and wished to save human beings would have open sourced these devices years ago.

For those that don't know, 'Open source' means you *give* the detailed plans and parts lists away for free, people replicate the devices and if they work, they would spread around the world faster than anyone would believe possible. They make money on the open source system, just as they do now...donations.

If everyone who ultimately used one of their devices paid them just 50c, they would be wealthy beyond their wildest dreams. But since, they claim to be a non profit, altruistic 'ministry', the money or reward does not even enter into the equation does it? Money is not their prime consideration...so they claim, so why not open source?

They haven't. they just continue to ask for more and more cash, with this non existent factory being cited as the reason for needing the money.

When you think about it, there are *many, many* manufacturing factories, set up, tooled up and going down the pan in this economic climate. How difficult would it be to approach any one of these manufacturing plants, and offer to either partner with the owners or pay to lease a portion of the premises and equipment?

Many struggling businesses, would bite their arms off for such a lifeline, but...they haven't done this..why not?

The sad conclusion that we must draw from all of this is that 'Witts Ministries' are a financially motivated band of frauds, using a religious front as a means of propping up their image.

I'm quite willing to travel to the US to face slander and or defamation charges should they wish to prove me wrong, by taking me to court and suing me.

I don't think they will somehow...do you?

I understand you were only trying to get the word out etc, so thanks for trying, but when you really look at this thing, and all the details i've highlighted, the only sensible conclusion as regards Witt's is that they are a bunch of money grabbing frauds, who hoodwink people with a religious marketing rouse.

Ok i don't understand how this is quantum energy...

Surely it's just a big generator, and something that turns the generator around to generate power.
Obviously the thing the spins the generator uses less power than the generator produces, thus generating free energy...

HOW is this not possible?

reply to post by DaRAGE


It's a simple law of physics. No machine can generate more power than it uses. It would be nice if you could but it's impossibe.

This whole thing is nothing more than snake oil. They all are.
Not one has ever be shown to work under scientific examination. But they all work in Youtube videos.

reply to post by Freezer


By them doing this in their own factory is the only way this invention will get to see the light of day. In the hands of the current energy giants this technology would be buried.

I've seen the work these people do and I respect it. It would be a good way for them to make an honest living selling a very usefull tool. The big corps can go to hell.

I will throw my 2 cents in like always.....NOTHING IS FREE....Go ahead and make it, then you will have a lawsuit for copyright infringement or something stupid....Good luck with you and your mini ---- knights.....

Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by DaRAGE

 

It's a simple law of physics. No machine can generate more power than it uses. It would be nice if you could but it's impossibe.

This whole thing is nothing more than snake oil. They all are.
Not one has ever be shown to work under scientific examination. But they all work in Youtube videos.

If it is impossible then how do the electrons in an atom stay in motion even in a rock? How do the planets stay in thier rotations etc?

Perhaps it is possible and we just haven't figured it out yet.

Originally posted by survivalstation
I think you mean "Mennonites" not mininights. Anyways, the video looks interesting but their website shows they are asking for donations to build a factory to mass produce these motors and drop the cost to an acceptable level. Sounds good on paper but unless they open source their plans to the masses nothing will ever come of this.

Inventors suddenly have heart attacks, fatal car crashes, etc., buildings and prototypes have a habit of burning down or being robbed and vandalized, patents have a way of being bought up by undisclosed investors or being classified as a national security risk.

I don't doubt that there are people who have achieved over-unity but sadly, giving the masses free energy would totally restructure the worlds wealth and power and that's something TPTB are not willing to give up.

Just consider the following quotes,

"Giving society cheap, abundant energy... would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun." ~ Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

"It's (the prospect of cheap fusion energy) the worst thing that could happen to the planet." ~ Jeremy Rifkin

I wish the missionaries/inventors luck bringing this project to fruition but unless they open source the plans and schematics this will surely be another flash in the pan like Stan Meyers water car or Pons-Fleishmann cold fusion.

I'd just like to say...this is easily one of the most retarded, idiotic statements i've ever read.. From stanford U...what is he the janitor?

Giving society cheap, abundant energy... would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun." ~ Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University


Besides that the Amish are awesome people i used to live in their area of Ontario...Stratford to be exact...they're willing to help anyone in need without any expectations, and i hardly think they would try to scam people, but anything is possible.

These machines probably do work, but they probably don't advertise the idea because the Gov would end the whole situation in a heart beat.

Look all you people act like this was in the plans for 20 years. The man says he has been raided by the feds, he said that certain people working with him have been mysteriously killed. I would want to stay under the radar as well, if I was being attacked all the time. It has also been reported that he was sent to jail over this. These videos were made last year and alot of the speculation was before that.

Sterling D. Allan was skeptical of him in 2008, interviewed him in 2009 and was impressed with findings. I am still not entirely convinced that he is a con artist. Unorthodox in his ways of getting assistance? Maybe

Moose318, you really impressed me. Your attitude went from this:

Originally posted by Moose318
I give up. You people just like to slaughter others in here. Too many negative attitudes. Yeah maybe this guy might be trying to scam everyone, But I highly doubt it. You people are Brutal! I'll be happy to donate and when the SHTF I'll be taken care of. Remember most people pay for education in todays world.

To this:

Originally posted by Moose318
reply to post by hawkiye

 

Alright you made your point...I suppose I have to agree with that after reading your link. If thats true then, that is a shame and I got my hopes up for nothing. I have been up all night as it is 6:00am here now. With that being said thanks for the info

Based on doing some research. Applause for you!

No we don't like to slaughter people in here, don't you think we ALL want free energy? Of course we do! I hate paying for gas and electricity. But what the hundreds and by now even thousands of over-unity advocates have shown again and again is that many, many different approaches to this have failed. Does that mean it's impossible? Well it would require redefining the laws of physics as we know them, which isn't impossible...however...for now these laws are exceptionally well tested (including all the failed tests by free energy folks), so it will take a lot more than a youtube video to convince me or most rational people the laws of physics have been redefined.

There are a couple of NASA scientists who take free energy seriously enough to offer to test claims that someone has a free energy, or "over unity" energy device, but they require either a dynamometer test or other simple load test to be performed before they will spend any time on it. But if someone convinces those two NASA guys their device works, I'll be very interested. They are doing this on their own time (like evenings and weekends), and aren't sponsored by NASA except for the fact that's their day job.

In the meantime, people asking for money fall into at least 2 camps that I know of, the worst group knows their device isn't over unity and just wants the money. The better type actually does seem to think their device works, but they don't know how to test it properly. But even those guys seem to ask for money, though usually donations instead of trying to sell kits or plans. Either group is a waste of your money and no, sending them money is not any kind of education as you suggested.

What is much better, and free, is to do exactly what you did, read everything you can about it, and draw your own conclusions, or if necessary, even build your own machine or perform your own experiments. But don't send these guys any money. Do research instead, it's free. And if you want to pay for an education, either pay for a real education, or if you don't like that approach, spend the money on your own laboratory and do your own free energy research experiments. Either of those would be better than sending your money to someone else.

Anyway I'm pleased to see you can think for yourself instead of blindly believing the claims of someone who appears to be credible! Way to go!

I'm just gonna throw this out there but there wasa time travel machine thread earlier hdr or somethung along those lines but if you combined that with a one man ship. Using your energy to move it so you could get tired I suppose. I also am gonna throw out using the chakra responsible for gut feelings to move objects.

Gut feelings are the only ones with direction but we are trained to ignore them and go with logic conditioned by the education system.


P.s. I don't believe the above, but the idea just popped into my head fully formed and if there was a way to move things with energy it would be this way.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Moose318, you really impressed me. Your attitude went from this:

Originally posted by Moose318
I give up. You people just like to slaughter others in here. Too many negative attitudes. Yeah maybe this guy might be trying to scam everyone, But I highly doubt it. You people are Brutal! I'll be happy to donate and when the SHTF I'll be taken care of. Remember most people pay for education in todays world.

Well the main reason I had an attitude wasnt because eye brows got raised by this guy, it was because some of the first comments were basically about my misspelling of the word Mennonite. It is not a word I spell on a regular basis. I felt that the main point of the thread was ignored due to childish behavior and finger pointing of a spelling mistake. After that I was just disgusted.

Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by DaRAGE

 

It's a simple law of physics. No machine can generate more power than it uses. It would be nice if you could but it's impossibe.

This whole thing is nothing more than snake oil. They all are.
Not one has ever be shown to work under scientific examination. But they all work in Youtube videos.

It doesn't go against the laws of physics. Almost all of these inventors state the energy is coming from an external source, such as the sun. The initial power from the batteries or capacitor is only to start the process.

Originally posted by wayno
reply to post by Freezer

 

By them doing this in their own factory is the only way this invention will get to see the light of day. In the hands of the current energy giants this technology would be buried.

I've seen the work these people do and I respect it. It would be a good way for them to make an honest living selling a very usefull tool. The big corps can go to hell.

The only way? The easiest way is to make the plans available to everyone over the internet, and as soon as you post it, it's out..

Patents can be bought, factories can be sabotaged, inventors can be silenced.

Thousands of people who replicate it after you post the complete schematics on the internet, can't be silenced..

I do love their heater -
www.youtube.com...

Just thought I would mention, there is no such thing as the laws of physics or anything else for that matter.
Reality is malleable and the limits of our current understanding are the only things resembling laws.

Sorry, but this is a classic hoax: their purpose is to sell 'gifts', books, and various other items to unsuspecting fools.

Any person with a money making machine would not need to sell gifts.

Successful stages of producing a device over unity:

1. Invent it.

2. Patent it.

3. Have a panel of research scientists verify it.

4. Put verification in the media.

5. Ask for donations. (Venture capitalists will line up. Money is not the problem.)

6. Mass produce.

Any other sequence is bogus.