The arrogance of the atheists

Originally posted by masqua

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
madness will also not debate me one on one in the debates section even though I challenged him !

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
I accepted your challenge and requested we hammer out the details

Can I be of assistance here?

I would love to see an old style debate thread between these two in the scope of how former thread debates have come across here.

star for the suggestion...

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact


Cosmic
Will you accept the challenge of a proper structured debate between you and MMS in a dedicated thread moderated by masqua?

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
I accepted your challenge and requested we hammer out the details, you didn't do anything except needlessly posture. If you're really interested in debating, I'm all for it. Contact a moderator and set it up.

I sent you a u2u and you did not respond, so I left it on you in that topic in question... It was to be any topic of your choosing and to be in paragraph form, with boundaries (like a boxing ring so no one could run) and hopefully brewed in what we have come to disagreement on (Darwinism and Atheists) namely atheists being arrogant and ignorant of History.

I was still waiting for you to post the link to the MIMS Vs. Cosmic Artifact topic...

oh well I guess it got forgot about ? even leaving myself open and letting you choose the topic, then you could seemingly corner me.

logic is flawed in that camp though just like the pompous professed Atheists who get on national television and explain their belief of non-belief


nobody else in the world exists or matters, everyone is just like us Atheists correct ?

people just like whaaat !!!

I don't think so...

yes, that is called losing comprehension of the English language because of ones ignorance and lack of knowledge of its origins and its own evolution. (I swear I seen a scene about just that in one of the Matrix movies)

Atheists are only angry at the Bible and Jesus, they have no knowledge even on a 5th grade level of English, so they introduce their own version of it, which is also incomprehensible to (how many percent of the people on planet earth?) then instead make a comedy stint out of it.

get educated Atheists !


specially in something other than Zeitgeist

Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

 

Cosmic
Will you accept the challenge of a proper structured debate between you and MMS in a dedicated thread moderated by masqua?

I don't know how many times I have to accept my own challenge that I offered to MIMS

i]reply to post by SaturnFX

I am fully open to very powerful alien races, interdimensional creatures, etc etc etc..and I am even open to the idea of a greater order in the multiverse beyond the scope of our comprehension

So am I. I didn't read written anywhere that God refutes "aliens", etc. He simply doesn't mention them, so I take that as a "no comment". Their creation obviously doesn't concern me. I certainly agree that we could never even begin to fathom what may be outside our comprehension. In fact, I'm pretty certain of it.

I can really only see that we disagree about the existence of Yahweh. I can live with that. I know what I believe and am comfortable saying that I am able to find an answer for all the questions that I have on a daily basis. I don't have to try to convince anyone of my beliefs. I just have to remember that on ATS!!

Yes, I really question everything. The reason I can't reconcile what passes for "religion" today with anything that was taught by Yeshua. I have not taken any man's word about the truth in decades. You can't believe anything a man(woman,whatever) says. They have no more authority over the truth than I do.

I'll find my own answers, thanks. I am actually in the process of learning some new things right now!!

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
yes, that is called losing comprehension of the English language because of ones ignorance and lack of knowledge of its origins and its own evolution. (I swear I seen a scene about just that in one of the Matrix movies)

This is pointless overall is the main argument here.
English comes from a cross between germanic dialect and latin. ok...and so what?

Atheists are only angry at the Bible and Jesus,

No, see, this is your misunderstanding of what atheists are. a disbelief in God is not anger...I am not angry at santa clause. I am not angry at the tooth fairy, I am not angry at a god avatar named jesus, I am not angry at elves, or Thor, or unicorns. I have no real opinion of any of them beyond they make good fictional characters in stories.

they have no knowledge even on a 5th grade level of English,

I am fairly up to date on the roots of languages. I am not a linguist, but I know the general history due to a few debates from long ago and a advanced education further back.

so they introduce their own version of it,

Language constantly evolves. its not a "they" thing...everyone participates in furthering language. Do you think the term "Gigabyte" existed in the year 1200? and in a few hundred years from now, the language may be very different than it is today, with terms we have never heard of before. I am expecting a comeback of the term "toots" though.

which is also incomprehensible to (how many percent of the people on planet earth?) then instead make a comedy stint out of it.

that bit made no sense. english is not the biggest native language. Chinese or spanish far outweigh english speaking natives

get educated Atheists !

Already got one. Batchlers - Computer Science (I speek macheen)

Again...what is the point of the posting (across many threads now)? christianity spread latin, yes..the romans are good for spreading stuff like that. they tend to do it at the end of pointy swords and kill off any that don't conform.

Originally posted by jennybee35
So am I. I didn't read written anywhere that God refutes "aliens", etc.

I have not read anything written anywhere that is authored by a deity. There are tons of books however claiming to be inspired by deity (s). But hey, anyone can claim that.

I can really only see that we disagree about the existence of Yahweh.

More than that actually, We disagree clearly on the bible and the characters in it. there is soo many arguments to be made on how its corrupted, spun, and ultimately useless as any sort of reference beyond medieval folklore. I won't get into it, however, I do find the original book and the work being done on it to get a actual proper translation from ancient hebrew to english verses the nonsense pushed in the books.
Frankly, if it points to anything, it points not to deitys, but to some sort of advanced civilization (ancient advanced races of earth...atlantians...aliens..etc. All speculation of course, but a proper reading of it shows that to be far more likely than space ghosts)
But thats a different topic all together

I can live with that. I know what I believe and am comfortable saying that I am able to find an answer for all the questions that I have on a daily basis. I don't have to try to convince anyone of my beliefs. I just have to remember that on ATS!!

Yes, I really question everything. The reason I can't reconcile what passes for "religion" today with anything that was taught by Yeshua. I have not taken any man's word about the truth in decades. You can't believe anything a man(woman,whatever) says. They have no more authority over the truth than I do.

Thats a good and healthy attitude..I also recommend constantly and without fear questioning everything you personally believe in. Try to debunk yourself...not just in matters of religious faith, but everything..from someone saying they love you (as they borrow your ATM card), to your views on politics, to what is considered healthy foods. I think one of the most important things we can do is question our stands on things constantly to either find a new truth, or to reinforce a old truth with stronger evidence.

I'll find my own answers, thanks. I am actually in the process of learning some new things right now!!

I suggest learning martial arts.

reply to post by SaturnFX


I am debating weather to even read your style of discussion also SFX.

Did you ever learn to write in paragraph form instead of only taking a poster and adding comments to their every sentence or so ?

If you can not write a letter I doubt seriously I am going to learn anything from you... you and MIMS are brothers because of the way you only address people to dissect everything they say simply because you do not understand the poetry of our language any more, or never have...

Try just once (you too MIMS) to commit to memory what a poster has said and hit the "reply" button, can you do that just once ? either of you...

it is only respectful for us peons who are not as enlightened as some of you are.

reply to post by SaturnFX


As bad as I know it's gonna hurt you to hear it, we ARE more alike than you like to believe.

Have you ever checked out the link in my signature? It has all those things you're looking to read about: terraforming of earth, aliens, the whole nine yards. Go see! Makes a whole lotta sense to me.

reply to post by phatpackage


first I'd study up on the word "religious" it's not everything you assumed I'm sure, here's an article by an athiest

CHRISTIANS – THE MOST PERSECUTED PEOPLE GROUP ON EARTH

By Anthony Browne, Europe correspondent of the Times.

Rising nationalism and fundamentalism around the world have meant that Christianity is going back to its roots as the religion of the persecuted. There are now more than 300 million Christians who are either threatened with violence or legally discriminated against simply because of their faith – more than any other religion. Christians are no longer, as far as I am aware, thrown to the lions. But from China, North Korea and Malaysia, through India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, they are subjected to legalised discrimination, violence, imprisonment, relocation and forced conversion. Even in supposedly Christian Europe, Christianity has become the most mocked religion, its followers treated with public suspicion and derision. jmm.aaa.net.au...

reply to post by jennybee35


these are natural born trolls... it is nothing an Atheist can help and actually I am starting to feel bad, so now maybe I should just pitty them ? I am also curious to know if English is either of their native languages ?

I blame the parents !

reply to post by Rustami


Again what does it have to with thread title?

Well one of the nice things I can say about Atheists is if I do not choose to think like them
an atheist is not going to tell me that I am going to be tormented for eternity in a lake of
fire for not subscribing to their worldview.

reply to post by phatpackage


it gives some insight to the militant atheistic mindset... just as the link that the OP used in their opening statement.

it is very relevant to the discussion if one is following it from page 1

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see this is where Atheists are wrong...

they can not refrain from and always elude to some form of insulting because they just can not compose themselves to lesser beings.

Even if you do not consider yourself an Atheist (which would make me wonder why you even posted in this topic) one has to respect their fellow human being.

and show respect for ones self, to others in the process...

this is exactly what I have been reading here and even indulged in myself since I have been here, but it has surely been happening here also since long before I got here, I surely never threw that first punch though, it's just not my style...

both parties have to stop the hate imo, even though I am not a fundamental Christian in no way, an Atheist has a special way of making a Militant Christian.

Now I know where we get Militant Islam from... thanks guys.

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

they can not refrain from and always elude to some form of insulting because they just can not compose themselves to lesser beings.

The very title of this thread is a direct insult to all atheists. I've seen you insult all atheists and individual ones in numerous threads and as such find your hypocrisy deliciously funny.

both parties have to stop the hate imo

It starts with YOU, now let's see how long you last.

Now I know where we get Militant Islam from...

Wasn't long at all.

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reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

No I'm not atheist though I respect the thoughts and opinions of many people who are atheist and their right as human beings to believe whatever they want as long as it harms no one.
You however seem to have a chip on your shoulder with atheist because it is evident in your threads and numerous posts that you go to great lengths to not only demonize atheist but to provoke them into responding to your posts.
It seems due to your slanderous accusations against atheist that you really have no idea what they are like.
I could almost be under the impression from your posts that if a vote were made tomorrow to burn all atheist at the
stake as heretics you would not hesitate to vote in favor of this.

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact


Typical of you cosmic artifact

You take the OP's thread and turn it into one where you can peddle you fundamentlaist BS. Shouldnt you be hanging out with the Fred Phelps and protesting agaunst gay rights or something?

Jenny, remember my previous posts? This is the kind of person I was talking about...Im sorry that its going to turn this thread into a huge pile of fundamentalist assumptions and crap talking. But as I mentioned before, we are of the same opinion, and I respect your beliefs, as much as you respect mine

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it was never the title, it was "your" comments, attitude and "your" accusations that I know for a fact are wrong (no faith applies it was direct intervention/revelation in my case)

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-John3