Quake Watch 2011

reply to post by PuterMan


Yeah, so they are using faults now as a good place to drill, frack, and hack. Have been for years and years. Don't matter that someone could get killed because of the quakes they induce. Normally I would think that 5.6 would be out of the range of a fracking quake, but now not so sure.

So how large can a fracking quake get?

In any case, I've tracked down some other stations in GEE that are closer, on the TA network. And watching them, clearly something is agitated, cause we got a swarm going here, folks. A lot of micro quakes happening you are not seeing reported. The bigger ones are. Another shock just now. Showing strongest on TA.V35A and TA.W35A, but they are registering on more than 7 stations in the area, so they are definitely quakes.

In your best estimation what's your take on percentage chance this is a fracking-induced swarm vs. faulting induced?

I am going with 60% chance fracking or better. Not sold on the faulting. Although, with the epicenters covering as big an area as they are, that is difficult to verify- so it may indeed be faulting. Tough call.

reply to post by Olivine
Earthquakes are of many types.Usually during an earthquake or before there are many types of energy to result before and after the earthquake. One observation is that geomagnetic field variation before an earthquake are higher then normal because friction of the plates especially on subduction zones,but not necessary depending on many factors like electron content in the ionosphere or the kinetic energy of the ionized solar particle to hit the earth!

reply to post by TrueAmerican


There are injection wells right ontop of the fault. I've rarely agreed- (almost never)- with that Dutchinse guy who posts those videos, but this time he's showing the injection wells in his video. Hell, I could be wrong. Maybe there's milk in them tanks.

Actually, they're right under the fault. They're pumping below the depth range of the earthquakes.
Millions of gallons of waste water is being pumped into a fault zone.
There is little probability it isn't the wells.

.

reply to post by diamondsmith

Thanks for your reply!
I am familiar with a few papers suggesting links between geomagnetic and ionospheric anomalies and earthquake prediction; interesting research--I hope it proves useful. [ETA: I found this research thanks to the incredible digging done by the folks posting on the TMiddlebrook/Arkansas/Hoax thread started by westcoast and found here]

Back to the links you posted. Are you saying they show the recent quakes in OK? Or some other phenomenon?
I marked (crudely, lol) the times of the Oklahoma earthquakes on the recent Haarp page you linked.

click thumbnail to enlarge
Will you please show me what I should be noticing? The chart looks calm at the times of those particular quakes, to my eye. I'm trying to learn...thanks so much!

reply to post by Olivine
Sorry no link to OK, things didn't happen instantly,the effect for those variations are for the next days you cannot and I repeat cannot analyze something that has no pattern but an certain effect,so (lol-y)don't try to get explanations for something that happened for other reasons,earthquakes are of many types.

So now that I see that TA station was closest (and incidently, the USGS added more stations in the phase data- rare to see them use TA stations), I went and pulled the 5.6 and look:


Click to enlarge

That sukka pushed 7.5 mm/s. So add that to the other one for amplitude reference for GEE watchers. That right there is THE best picture of that quake anywhere. Except maybe a spectrograph from the same station so you can see frequency content.

And here are some of the microshocks I am talking about that won't get reported. Too small. But they are there:

Click to...awe jeez, you know this by now...

reply to post by diamondsmith


You posted the links...I was just wondering why? No worries....

ETA: TrueAmerican, that is a beautiful capture of the OK quake. 7+ millimeters movement is huge! Thanks for posting the pic.

reply to post by ericblair4891


Well according to this article, it is almost certainly faulting from the Wilzetta fault, and it goes into some detail:
tremblingearth.wordpress.com...

A sporadic quake sequence on a reawakened fault. But reawakened by what is the question.

One million dollar question.What is the link between Ron Paul ears and the California collapse into the ocean?

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Thanks for the links and the Seismograph readings!!!!

I really wanted to see them earlier and remembered I couldn't view them on GEE. I tried downloading GEE the other day. It worked for a few and then started acting up. I tried to delete it but it keeps telling me there is another open file somewhere and I have no idea where it is. I've looked for it, but so far no luck. SO....yeah, can't use it right now nor can I download it again until I find the open one.

Do you know of another program I can download that is just as good? Thanks in advance.

reply to post by diamondsmith




I dunno, but I will say this- if a massive quake comes out of nowhere on this same fault, I will hold seismologists responsible for not sounding an alert. I will say they should have advised extra caution, once it was seen that the 4.7 was a foreshock to the 5.6. Because that immediately establishes that this fault may not be through moving. In a bigger way yet still. The best astute ATSers in the area can do is seriously, prepare. Right now would be a good time to remove any high, heavy objects and ground em for the next few days, just in case this thing decides to give way. From what I can see of this Wilzetta fault, it has potential to produce an even bigger one. Because as we are shown- on the east side of the country there is no telling just how long that fault may really extend below ground.

ETA:
reply to post by MamaJ


No, I don't know of another program available to lowly grunts like me that can do what GEE can. Hopefully you followed the tips in the GEE TIPS thread? Sorry you are having troubles...

Originally posted by diamondsmith
One million dollar question.What is the link between Ron Paul ears and the California collapse into the ocean?

I have no idea but I really want to know if you really know.

I never win anything...hold on..... Cali going into the ocean?? Man..... I can't fathom it.

I think I just felt myself become bi polar for just a moment.

No, I don't know of another program available to lowly grunts like me that can do what GEE can. Hopefully you followed the tips in the GEE TIPS thread? Sorry you are having troubles...

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Does a man stop and ask for directions? Grrrrrr........ I SO wish I would have followed the steps on that thread. I thought to myself, how hard can it be? I am not an illiterate computer chic....I can do this easily.

HA! In one day it began throwing errors of two programs running so until I find the one that is open somewhere in la la land, I can't do jack.

reply to post by MamaJ


MamaJ I have had a few problems with GEE also and when that happens I turn to Vase

www.iris.edu...

It is touchy - review the how to section CLOSELY or you will be pulling your hair, and it isnt as pretty as GEE but when you are going thru seismo withdrawals this works for me

reply to post by MamaJ


EDIT: Just occurred to me: open your task manager and check what it says. If it's running two GEE programs then there'll likely be two entries, both of them GEE.exe. If so, just disable them and restart GEE.

(End edit... Following applies if the above doesn't work.)

Try running some cleaner software then restart. That might help. Alternatively, do a registry scan and cleanup.

Like TA, I don't know of anything else around that's freely available and will do what GEE does.

And TrueAmerican, many thanks for those images of the 5.6 and also the mini/micro quakes. Plus 7mm/sec is pretty impressive.

Mike

Originally posted by MamaJ
Does a man stop and ask for directions?

Umm, not no mo. This man checks out directions on google maps first, and has it down BEFORE getting into the car.

HA! In one day it began throwing errors of two programs running so until I find the one that is open somewhere in la la land, I can't do jack.

Sweetie, if that ever happens, all you have to do is open task manager (right click on your task bar), hit the processes tab and find javaw.exe. Select and then hit End Process. That'll shut that sukka down dead. Then wait a few seconds and relaunch GEE.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


hey TA can you put that little tidbit in your GEE thread??? PLEASE

Originally posted by jadedANDcynical
reply to post by Saucerwench

 

See this post I recently made in this thread regarding a report published by University of Illinois about the impact of a sizable quake in the New Madrid Seismic Zone.

Not a pleasant bed time story, I tell you what.

 

ETA: The USGS felt report page has an interesting bit up for this quake:

Due to the large number of responses for this event the sortable table usually found here is not a usable solution

Wow.

edit on 6-11-2011 by jadedANDcynical because: added wow

working in 1,500 teams are required to respond to the earthquakes. Damage to critical infrastructure (essential facilities, transportation and utility lifelines) is substantial in the 140 impacted counties near the rupture zone, including 3,500 damaged bridges and nearly 425,000 breaks and leaks to both local and interstate pipelines. Approximately 2.6 million households are without power after the earthquake. Nearly 86,000 injuries and fatalities result from damage to infrastructure. Nearly 130 hospitals are damaged and most are located in the impacted counties near the rupture zone. There is extensive damage and substantial travel delays in both Memphis, Tennessee, and St. Louis, Missouri, thus hampering search and rescue as well as evacuation. Moreover roughly 15 major bridges are unusable. Three days after the earthquake, 7.2 million people are still displaced and 2 million people seek temporary shelter. Direct economic losses for the eight states total nearly $300 billion,

Yup.
That answers my question! I'm glad I asked. Not!

Describes a -classic- "SHTF" end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it Mad Max situation.

Originally posted by PuterMan


Scientists!!!!!

Does anyone remember the closing scene in the film Spartacus? So should all scientists and bankers be treated.

What sort of scientists?

Hang on!
I'm a Scientist!

*backs away slowly*

reply to post by aorAki


Hey, the mighty big dog deserves a weak moment or two. Leave him alone. He didn't really mean it, but I certainly empathize with his frustration. I mean Christ, fracking on fault lines. :shk: