Great Patriots Question Government Fairy Tale on 9/11

Very nice video of some great Patriots that don't accept the government lies about 9/11.

Let's see how many SHILLS come to throw dirt on these great men. When they crawl out from under their rocks to push the government line, look at their icons and past posts. You'll see who they serve clearly. I don't waste my time even responding to their absurd posts anymore.

You have to be brain dead to believe the government story about 9/11 after even a modest amount of research. The same thing with the Kennedy Assassination. I want all Patriots reading this thread to get 5-10 new friends on facebook every day and post stories there from ATS and other sites. If the millions of Patriots out there get 5,000 friends on Facebook, we cover over 500 Million people with truth! They can't stop us all and no matter how much money they spend on the disinfo bloggers on ATS, it's not working anymore! You know the government lies are breaking down when even Geraldo Rivera says 9/11 was an inside job. LOL

reply to post by GlennCanady

....Geraldo Rivera says 9/11 was an inside job. LOL

No he didn't.

Lie #1.

Originally posted by GlennCanady


Very nice video of some great Patriots that don't accept the government lies about 9/11.

I don't waste my time even responding to their absurd posts anymore.

Finally. Maybe the discussion on the topic can progress if those people are ignored.

Originally posted by Cassius666

Originally posted by GlennCanady


Very nice video of some great Patriots that don't accept the government lies about 9/11.

I don't waste my time even responding to their absurd posts anymore.

Finally. Maybe the discussion on the topic can progress if those people are ignored.

edit on 20-12-2010 by Cassius666 because: (no reason given)

Ah, thats priceless - ignoring the truth to find the truth. Why don't you ask the poster why he states that Geraldo thinks 9/11 is an inside job, when, of course, Geraldo has said no such thing. In consideration of that fact, why would you believe anything else in the post?

Well said OP totally agree with you notice the way the brain dead never comment on the vide posted but try an focus on a non reliavant comment

reply to post by kaya82

....focus on a non reliavant comment

So if the OP is telling a lie, it is irrelevant as long as it supports your bias.

Goodbye truth! Hello delusion!

The brain dead seldom post at all..............stop with the insults if you wish a measured and adult thread.
Believing th OS is not a crime,and it is natural to trust your goverment when you think you actually voted them into office.It is up to the truthers to show the maturity it takes to get the point across to as many of the people as possible as quickly as possible.
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reply to post by hooper


Should I put my trust in you? Or people with a little credibility?

patriotsquestion911.com...

I think you know the answer....

But I am interested in knowing why it is so important for you to believe the OS.

Originally posted by whaaa
reply to post by hooper

 

Should I put my trust in you? Or people with a little credibility?

patriotsquestion911.com...

I think you know the answer....

The poster lied to you with regard to Geraldo Rivera. And not something trivial, like his age or weight or favorite color. The poster stated, in no uncertain terms, that Geraldo Rivera stated that 9/11 was an "inside job".

Do you know this to be true? or false?

If false - then wouldn't you like to know what else these self proclaimed "patriots" are lying about?

Or do you prefer the lies that reinforce your bias to the truth that challenges your position?

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by Cassius666

Originally posted by GlennCanady


Very nice video of some great Patriots that don't accept the government lies about 9/11.

I don't waste my time even responding to their absurd posts anymore.

Finally. Maybe the discussion on the topic can progress if those people are ignored.

edit on 20-12-2010 by Cassius666 because: (no reason given)

Ah, thats priceless - ignoring the truth to find the truth. Why don't you ask the poster why he states that Geraldo thinks 9/11 is an inside job, when, of course, Geraldo has said no such thing. In consideration of that fact, why would you believe anything else in the post?

No ignoring people who ignore anything the other side presents. Its like playing chess with somebody who sees your kind in D4 when it is in E6 and does not keep track of whose turn it is.

Nothing has been done to debunk any of the evidence shown. Its all personal attacks and calling people crazy and liars, which is just personal attacks.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by GlennCanady

 

....Geraldo Rivera says 9/11 was an inside job. LOL

No he didn't.

Lie #1.

Says who? You? Regardless of how this thread turns out. There is still the fact that what has been given as the reason in the NIST report has an astronomically small likelyhood of occouring. No self proclaimed "debunker" managed to talk that point away yet, except that we are just to accept that on that day a one in a trillion square trillion chance occoured.

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by whaaa
reply to post by hooper

 

Should I put my trust in you? Or people with a little credibility?

patriotsquestion911.com...

I think you know the answer....

The poster lied to you with regard to Geraldo Rivera. And not something trivial, like his age or weight or favorite color. The poster stated, in no uncertain terms, that Geraldo Rivera stated that 9/11 was an "inside job".

Do you know this to be true? or false?

If false - then wouldn't you like to know what else these self proclaimed "patriots" are lying about?

Or do you prefer the lies that reinforce your bias to the truth that challenges your position?

Your tactics are so transparent. Check out number 4

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Cassius666

Says who? You? Regardless of how this thread turns out. There is still the fact that what has been given as the reason in the NIST report has an astronomically small likelyhood of occouring. No self proclaimed "debunker" managed to talk that point away yet, except that we are just to accept that on that day a one in a trillion square trillion chance occoured.

First, the poster, in his opening statement told a bold face lie. And since the gist of the presentation is a review of supposedly credible persons talking about their doubts regarding the official story and 9/11, wouldn't you be a little bit hesitant when the first thing the poster does is lie about someone else's position?

And please post the mathematical model that says that when you crash a fuel laden jetliner into a building at a very high rate of speed that the chances of the consequences of that event would inlcude the catastrophic failuer of the building support system are 1 in a trillion to the trillionth power order of probability.

reply to post by hooper


Take that one up with engineers for 911 truth and all the other qualified people who say the events as laid out in the NIST report had a very low degree of probability to occour and that the use of some kind of demolition device is a far more rational explanation when face with that alternative.. The one thing 911 "debunkers" were not able to explain is, why would so many AMERICAN engineers and architects conspire against America with a bold lie? What is their motive? They all get cuts from 911 tshirt sales and coffee mugs ? I am sure its that

We gave many many reasons on why certain factions would orchestrate the 911 attacks. That has been "debunked" by the claim that they were merely a so very convenient coincidence.

I am not an american but I hope for all the citizens of the US that people who are in high places and respected will give it a serious thought about what really happened on 911. Most of these people are educated proffesionals and it should be not that difficult for them to draw the conclusion that some things in the 911 repport just do not add up with plain simple logic.

This crime and unsolved tragedy should never disappear into history like the JFK murder and the US citizens should be made aware that they have the power to end the corruption and faul play in their government. JFK spoke about the danger of secret societies and got him killed. He was no paranoid fool and that is what every US tax-paying citizen should keep in mind.

I read somewhere that we live in a time where lies will surface and the truth will come out.

The people behind 911 and other crimes against the people are arrogant and disrespectful to the people. I have the feel that they are so very confident of their achieved power that they do not care for the details when commiting a crime. They consider the people incapable, passive and not intelligent enough to stand against them. And to this day it seems they are right......nobody has the "right stuff' to challenge them.

On the other hand it is practically impossible to challenge them legally because they have protected them selves by law and have positioned "friends" in significant powerfull places in the legal system, industry, army, media and every other organisation that can be of any use to them.

If the US peopel want their country back and save it from being robbed and raped, I am afraid that the only way out for the american people is a revolution a la France....

That is what I think.....

reply to post by zatara


The truth always surfaces, the question is, will it be aknowledged in time?

reply to post by Cassius666

Take that one up with engineers for 911 truth and all the other qualified people who say the events as laid out in the NIST report had a very low degree of probability to occour and that the use of some kind of demolition device is a far more rational explanation when face with that alternative..

Now wait a minute. We just went from "one in a trillion square trillion" to "very low degree of probability" pretty darn quick.

But I guess I shouldn't let little "misstatements" like that get in the way of the search for the truth, huh?

Originally posted by hooper
The poster lied to you with regard to Geraldo Rivera. And not something trivial, like his age or weight or favorite color. The poster stated, in no uncertain terms, that Geraldo Rivera stated that 9/11 was an "inside job".

Do you know this to be true? or false?

If false - then wouldn't you like to know what else these self proclaimed "patriots" are lying about?

Or do you prefer the lies that reinforce your bias to the truth that challenges your position?

I think the only person "lying," or spreading dis/misinformation is you; either that, or you've had your head so far up the gubment's culo for so long you missed the fact that it was the collapse of building 7 that changed his mind.



While it's true he doesn't come out and say "9/11 was an inside job," he does call into question, a couple of times, the OS.

The OS is unraveling. TPTB are getting squeezed between the lies told about building 7 and the Pentagon which have been scientifically disproved, and they are pooping their pants. You're shilling for the wrong side bud (pssst, and you're not doing it very well either.)

reply to post by OldCorp

While it's true he doesn't come out and say "9/11 was an inside job,"....

Which makes the statement in the OP a lie. Particularly embarassing since the thrust of the OP is about credibilty, patriots question, etc. End of story for rational persons.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by OldCorp

 

While it's true he doesn't come out and say "9/11 was an inside job,"....

Which makes the statement in the OP a lie. Particularly embarassing since the thrust of the OP is about credibilty, patriots question, etc. End of story for rational persons.

What I see as embarrassing is the use of a strawman argument to try and bolster up a major fail. End of story for rational persons and especially those acquainted with the tactics of debate, disinfo, deflection and semantics.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by whaaa


Strawman? The OP tells an all and out lie about another persons position regarding 9/11 and thats a strawman?