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Originally posted by Whyhi
reply to post by ATH911
So what do you think it was? A missile...?
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
reply to post by hooper
Title of thread:
Evidence no plane crashed & buried in Shanksville; piles of dirt, but no piles of plane debris
Posting pictures of plane debris is off-topic?
I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for, but would it be wrong to say that a dumpster full of--well, plane debris--qualifies as a pile of... plane debris?
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
reply to post by ATH911
I obtained the first picture from a 9/11 conspiracy website. Apparently I am not the only one who was wrong about that one.
If you can't see the scattered debris in the last picture, then I can't help you. It is not a shovel. Nice try, though.
Apparently you have nothing to say about the rest of the pictures.
So your are debating something your don't even believe in?!
Too bad the official story says most of it buried and accordioned against a layer of bedrock 45 feet below.
Why do you keep lying hooper? The official story tellers are saying 80% was buried and that's the ONLY logically explanation that 95% of a 757 was recovered, yet the photos of the ground debris only shows about 15% of a 757. Do the math hooper.
Thats exactly the size of a 757 if placed side by side.
Originally posted by Myendica
reply to post by hooper
elaborate... well, from a conspiracy view, if what happened isnt what it seems, then why would the plane crash there? if the whole thing was a conspiracy then 93 would have something to it. what would be the reason for that location? why confiscate the land, or atleast attempt eminent domain? something would have had to have been there if it wasnt the OS.
does that help?
I don't think it was a 757 and that's the only thing that really matters to prove a conspiracy, wouldn't you agree?
How much of that debris came from underneath the ground?
And bonus question, how many pieces of debris in that dumpster has United colors on it?
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by DIDtm
Thats exactly the size of a 757 if placed side by side.
Really? You think the remains of a plane that impacted the earth at over 500mph should occupy the same volume as when the plane was whole?
Originally posted by hooper
Buried and embedded are two different things, two different words, two different situations.
No sorry, you are incorrect. There is no official numbers in that regard. I know you have pasted together a collage of newspaper articles, quotes from volunteers at the memorial, etc to try and construct some kind of model but that does not constitute an official "story". Besides, it is all irrelevant as it all comes down to you proclaiming "inside job" based on your review of some photos you found on the internet.
Ok, cut it out with the "lying" crap. The "official story tellers"? What department do they work for?
Again, it all comes down to your opinion about a few photos you found on the internet.
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
reply to post by DIDtm
Waste of a post.
You are assuming many things by such a comment: that that particular dumpster was the only one at the site; that the excavation/retrieval process had been concluded; that that was the only debris found, and so on and so fourth.
Originally posted by Whyhi
You're main point from the original post, in my opinion, was the hypothesis that there should have been massive piles of debris, and that there is no evidence of a plane crash, as shown by the title of the thread. You were given pictures of debris, to me, that would be evidence of a plane crash, and the assumption that there would be massive piles of wreckage is based on the fact that you presume to know the specifics of how a plane should act in an event such as this when it's extremely complex and chaotic.
Let me remind you that the FBI claimed to have recovered 95% of the 757. The math has to add up hooper, wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
I can ask the same question to satisfy my point, as well:
A United Airlines plane is painted silver, blue, and red (with some white trimmings). The majority of the plane (I will take a guess and say about 80%) is silver. So, if you look at the pieces in that bin, it is obvious that the majority of them are silver.
And bonus question, how many pieces of debris in that dumpster has United colors on it?
It would be expected that a minority of those pieces are blue or red, and, assuming my eyes are as good as yours, it is obvious that most of them are not colored pieces.
Where you not defending what I said couldn't have happened, officials digging out 80% of the plane that had buried, but no piles of plane debris, just piles of dirt?
Deny the official facts all you want hooper. But if I was trying to prove a 757 crashed there, I'd deny the absurd official story too!
Yes, the Flight 93 Ambassadors who have be rigorously trained about the official facts at the memorial operated by the National Parks Service. You were unaware of this government memorial at the official crash scene?
Then what % of a 757 do you see lying on top of the ground in all the photos before the cleanup started?
Too bad you misinterpreted what I was talking about. What was that about not taking truthers seriously again?
Logically, there should have been numerous piles of plane debris collected outside of the hole waiting to be processed after extraction.
meaning nothing came out of the ground
thereby the official story that Flight 93 crashed there is a lie.