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Originally posted by AlreadyGone
You are a slave to your own desires... what is your master is what you are a slave to....not "the system."
If you want nothing and can provide exclusively for yourself, then you are a slave to no one and nothing. That is why some religions and faiths and sects preach austerity, humility, self denial....
A few examples are the Amish, the Shakers, maybe the Buddists...objects and possessions are temporary or serve the material self, true freedom comes from within...the mind and the soul.
There is a common idea or anecdote that " the happiest people I've ever seen didn't have a pot to piss in." That stems from the very notion that material wealth enslaves the master.
Unfortunately, unless we live like Grizzly Adams, Jeremiah Johnson, or some monk on a mountain top, we fall to our weaker desires...a nice house, the need of an automobile or truck, clothes, good foods....
All of these require money...which means we have to work...which means we are giving up an agreed to portion of our time/skills for an equal portion of goods and services... that is called trade, commerce, and basic economic principle. However, the more I want and the greedier I become... the more I have to trade my time and freedom.
You, in effect, enslave yourself.... when you realize this...you can then walk away from that lifestyle...and begin freeing yourself. Good Luck
Originally posted by WWu777
Originally posted by AlreadyGone
Unfortunately, unless we live like Grizzly Adams, Jeremiah Johnson, or some monk on a mountain top, we fall to our weaker desires...a nice house, the need of an automobile or truck, clothes, good foods....
This is true. For some reason, poor people in third world countries seem happier and have more authentic smiles than rich people in North America. I wonder why that is?
I guess there is some universal law that every time you gain something, you lose something, even if it's your own soul? Thus most people cannot have it all.
!edit on 10-12-2010 by WWu777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by starchild10
So if we are enslaved what sort of world would be your ideal?
Rather than work for a living, maybe we could just sit with our mouth open waiting for food to drop into it
Or does freedom mean do what you want when you want? Oh but there's a tricky one. Your freedom could end up infringing someone else's rights.