I need assistance.

Let's not be hasty, Saturn. I hear these voices all of the time and try to tune them out a lot. I probably wouldn't notice if one of them suddenly changed slightly. I would start to think "Did he always sound like that?" and such. Goddammit. *snip* Ok, I know it's not medical. I've seen what those diseases do to people. I'm not some genius like John Forbes Nash, Jr. If I had it, it wouldn't be so clear to me. I'd be killing squirrels and lashing out at people, like all of the others. I'm convinced it's some sort of organization trying to make me miserable. I don't know why they would target me, but there must be some reasonable explanation. Perhaps it's just fun for them. I don't know, but it's not a*snip* disease! It's not an illness! Dammit, I know what I know and I believe there's some sort of plot to keep me under the radar.


Ok, astral projection. Something I haven't tried. I'm willing to do anything that doesn't require pills and more bull# from that stupid organization.

reply to post by LightBlue


-sighs-

Fine dude...tell you what.
Ever heard of the "tin foil hat"? well, here is the deal. Tin foil will actually block alot of waves, however, you will need to create a all encompassing 360 suit with no holes.
I recommend getting like a big box, and wrapping it completely with tin foil...take care to get every single inch covered and layered. Then when these voices start up...sit in the box and see if they go away.

If by going in the box, they go away...then voila, your recieving transmissions and can take the next step.
If however, they do not go away...then you can safely assume its not some sort of microchip recieving signals.

The key is to create a perfect encompassing place with the foil...or lead..or other type materials that will eliminate signals from being transferred.

I am thinking your one of those types that will end up trying every single nutty suggestion until you give in and simply go see a doc...at least do the things that will save you 20 steps.

Will say again...a tin foil hat will do nothing..it must be completely surrounding

It sounds like you need to be part of the Hearing Voices Movement

From what I have read, hearing voices of itself may not be considered a mental illness although it is the most common symptom of Schizophrenia. As a Dream practitioner, I start to hear voices when I enter into a pre-sleep state when my sensory apparatus inverts to start observing dream expeirences.

Tactile, Audible and Visual hallucinations in the form of hypnogogia appear as the "datastream" changes from my outward waking perception to my inward dream perception. To even dream something so grand and amazing is quite astonishing. I don't consider dreaming a mental illness and it quite naturally produces voices, people, places and objects.

What could be happening is you are partly phased into the centers of your mind that do produce audible hallucinations similar to the mechanics found in dreaming. For some reason these voices are occurring when you are awake rather then in the more sensory depraved state of dreaming where such voices are common place.

Do I think the voices are "real" people, no. They are generated by your unconscious mind and you are naturally tapping into this information without the normal filter to shut them down.

If the voices are not causing you harm or others harm, then it's probably a condition that you can manage. Talking about it, even writing down what they say. Doing your own progressive therapy to help yourself responsibly cope with this condition is not a bad non-medicated way to go. People in the above link deal with this condition.

The mind is quite powerful and can generate amazing dream realities when we sleep, so generating a few extra voices while we are awake is trivial at best for such a powerful tool.

I think you can learn to manage it better and get to a point where you can potentially resolve this without medication. Try to meditate when the voices happen and shift your awareness into the voice and take it over as your own thoughts.

Keep trying to override the voice as yourself thinking, take control of them by learning how to tune your awareness and thoughts into the area where they are generated and override it, make them think as you want. You will probably see it's something you can affect with your attention and focus.

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Ok, this has made the most sense. So, it's not a mental illness, but something missing its mark. Ok, that I can believe. I'll set aside my paranoia, for now. I'll do what you say, tonight. I probably won't get much sleep, anyway. Writing them down... trying to focus and make the voices into my own thoughts... got it. I'll let you know what happens.

I'll try the tin foil hat first, though. Should be good for a laugh, at least. God knows I need it.

reply to post by LightBlue


Good luck with it, make sure to update the thread with any progress.

reply to post by LightBlue


This could be tinnitus as well, there are more severe forms of it. Most people scream schizophrenia when they look at the hearing voices part but although it might well be, its not guaranteed.

I would recommend you see a doctor if this is effecting your quality of life which it clearly is given that you have had to leave your job etc.

The alternative is to self manage it.

I myself still get a humming noise in my ears constantly but have gotten used to it so much that I no longer hear it unless I actually concentrate on it, you sort of cancel the noise out with you mind if that makes sense. Duplicate what you hear in your thoughts and it goes away.

Thats the best I can describe it.

The sound I hear is exactly like this...



I started hearing this about five years ago and its here to stay

I have information for you:

There is an advanced microwave technique, basically, they target both sides of your brain, side one and side two, they look into your life and take recordings of your speech, especially that of your parents and any social issues in your life. They try to mimic the voices of your mother and your father (they have a very freudian framework of how the mind words). Each voice is cycled, first on one side is some kind of criticism, and then you will hear a kind of "buzzing" or "bell" sound, this indicates that the other side of your brain is being targeted. A new voice then speaks to the other side of your brain after the "buzzing" - basically, it is an attempt to get you to conform to the system.

EVIDENCE: I have a high level of control over my subconscious, and when I sleep, I can maintain awareness during sleep paralysis, when I clear up the fuzziness of my imagination and fear, I hear the recordings. They are very simple, and are obviously the product of technology. They will try to get to you any way that they can.

ADVICE: 1) The system reflects though the ears, wearing earplugs can prevent the sounds, as well as wearing headphones and listening to music. Also, drink only bottled water, the frequencies are made to resonate with the flouride crystals that form in the brain, when you have pure water it eventually breaks down. Also try a detox, zeolites are effective, but make sure you get the proper commercial/trusted brands. There are also other devices, such as Schumann Resonance generators, that generate an electric field that you can tune to your natural levels, creating a natral reference point against the artificial frequencies. Also, are various clothing items that contain a fine silver mesh, that can help to dissapate the fields.

RESIST THE SYSTEM:

Contact me if you are having any troubles, people staring at you, people acting strange etc etc. Usually on Youtube private messaging, user = SystemResistor

reply to post by SaturnFX


Ah, even better is to get one of those aluminium blankets that they use for medical emergencies, they won't rip like regular tin foil and you can sew it into your bedsheets for ultimate protection.

I used the tin foil... it worked.... I spent all of yesterday just... sitting... I can't believe it. I put it on expecting nothing, but they immediately halted. I even threw it off from sheer surprise. My God... it's been years... I don't know if I'm experiencing a placebo effect, but I don't care anymore. Thank you, ATS. I can finally enjoy life... if only you could see the smile on my face, right now. I have plans to wear the foil without it being noticeable, such a a baseball cap lined with it. You know, things to make me seem normal. I can't get over it, this is the greatest thing to ever happen to me.

I agree that you are lucid and coherent and reasonably intelligent. That does not mean you can't have a form of schizophrenia. One does not automatically mean the other is not present. Saying that does not mean you are "mad" or "insane" at all. It just means that some synapses are not working the way they normally would. I'm not even saying they are working incorrectly, just differently. I think the probability that is the case is much more than alternative theories such as channeling or being targeted by some nefarious three-letter agency, though frankly, thinking that is extremely common in these cases. (I note that you never said that; it was suggested by someone else.)

The problem in these cases, and I've seen it many times, is that you ask for help, then define the parameters of the help you will accept, rejecting all other ideas. You seem unwilling to even entertain those ideas that do not fit your pre-conceived notions of what is wrong. I would suggest that you are not in a position to decide what this is.

People are taking your plea at face value here. If you reject what we say, then you are wasting our time. Good luck to you, but there's nothing more to be said.

Of course there's nothing more to be said! Didn't you hear me?! I'm cured! It worked! I feel amazing! My head doesn't ache! I can enjoy the sun, again! This beautiful silence... is all I've ever wanted...

This happens a few times to me whenever Im really frustrated..Sorry to hear this has been going on for five years but one thing that may be happening is just intense stress or some build up from an experience, or something that has bothered you more unconsciously than you may perceive. I would highly recommend some form of spiritual help. Either it be by a spiritual guide or just meditating 15min before sleep and after you wake up. I would also suggest using the Solfeggio Frequencies..There is multiple links relating to the subject on ATS but here's the gist..

396Hz- Liberating Guilt and Fear

417Hz- Undoing situations and facilitating change

528Hz- Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair---actually used by DNA scientists)

639Hz- Connecting and Relationships

741Hz- Awakening Intuition

852Hz- Returning to Spiritual Order

You can check out some of these frequencies on Youtube. Just listen to them with some headphones meditate and focus on being "healed" and try that everyday for a week and see how it helps! 417 and 528Hz are important!



"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3,6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."
- Nicola Tesla

Well glad your healed brother.. my recent post is still a good idea for daily use!

Thanks, but I'm stickin' with this. I will never laugh at that scene from Signs, again. Well, I probably won't ever watch that movie, anyway. It was so dumb.

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Since you asked.....
It seems that you are taking some possibilities off of the table prematurely. A diagnosis of a psychological condition does not mean one is "mad". Psychic disturbances do not mean that one is not rational. However to make that diagnosis on your own without the help of someone very knowledgeable is the wrong way to go in my opinion. I think you'll agree that the human brain is a complex and beautiful thing. Infinitely more complex and beautiful than any automobile (with few exception) and personally I don't know what to do with a car that wont work right. Perhaps you could give that same approach a try when dealing with your own complex and beautiful mind. Try the help of a mechanic, one who doesn't need to rely on a "feeling" to eliminate possible causes from the list of known diagnoses.You can always go to another Dr. (mechanic) if you don't like what they have to say. Try out their ideas and hypotheses before judging their worth.

Lastly, I have been at my wit's end while trying to diagnose a problem also. Both medical/psychological and mechanical and only after asking for help am I able to see that I would have continued spinning my wheels, so to speak, forever if not for their sympathetic and expert opinions. I believe that if you are desperate to stop this then all options should be explored.


Deny Ignorance friend. And good luck.

STH

reply to post by LightBlue


I am glad that you're doing much better with the tin foil. I'm still incredibly curious about what is causing your condition.

Would there be any possibility for you to get an MRI scan from a hospital or doctor you trust? And, if you can, ask them to look at the area of the left temporal lobe (the area of speech). If you're able to get this scan, I'd be interested in knowing what a neurologist says about what he/she finds, if anything.

I wish you the best!

EDIT Addendum: Oh, I should mention that it's the left temporal lobe if you're right-handed. (95% of the population) If you're left-handed, it would be the right temporal lobe that would be significant.

Hey Congratulations... that's great if you found something that works. As to why it's tinfoil? Who knows? Who cares if it's helping stop the condition.

Makes one wonder if it is an issue of tuning in something and the tinfoil has shifted or blocked frequencies, strange. I'd need to get more research and science on this to understand it.

If it could be thought implants at the right frequency, I don't think tin foil will help... but who knows. I'm certainly no expert.

I have a question though... do any of these voices have accents by any chance?... an accent not native to your area and not one you hear often? I'm asking because that would just be strange that your mind would be constantly producing a foreign accent.... not that this has happened to me or anything.

No, no accents. In fact, I haven't heard them for a couple of days, now. I've been doing things. I lined a baseball cap with the foil and I've been wearing it every day. Ah, God... this is great. So, I don't know.

What causes voices that can be blocked by foil? Is it possible I just wanted it to work so badly that my mind obeyed and stopped doing... whatever the hell it was doing?

Originally posted by LightBlue
No, no accents. In fact, I haven't heard them for a couple of days, now. I've been doing things. I lined a baseball cap with the foil and I've been wearing it every day. Ah, God... this is great. So, I don't know.

What causes voices that can be blocked by foil? Is it possible I just wanted it to work so badly that my mind obeyed and stopped doing... whatever the hell it was doing?

I was thinking the frequencies that can penetrate the skull can go through brick walls and would be able to go through tin foil like nothing... but who knows... maybe there is something to it. Maybe the voices are too busy silently snickering at you....just kidding... I don't know.

I know I get sh!tty cell phone reception in a metal trailer... I do believe that is aluminum siding. Maybe it's those kind of signals and not another kind...like microwaves.