Should "Creationism" be considered a sign of insanity?

reply to post by SaturnFX

Here is the question...should "creationism" be consided a sign of insanity? Willful ignorance?

Here's a reply... should arrogance be allowed to represent science and evolution? Is this a sign that some scientific quarters are no better than those who perpetrated the inquisition?

The right to believe what one wishes to believe is not fodder for your little idealogical wars nor within your purview to command. Tyranny is still tyranny regardless of what shirt it wears. Your smug little post here is just masquerading as guileless stupidity... while actually trying to stir up trouble by insulting complete strangers.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Christ Jesus Himself, was often thought to be insane! I'll gladly stand with Him vs. a blind man who has no eyes to see the truth, such as Dawkins! You cannot compare science with faith, that is a ridiculous argument at best. Once you prove faith it is no longer such, it becomes science. Very illogical, such as you OP trying to pass your opinion off as fact.

Those are my thoughts, thanks for asking.

Pax

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Perhaps neither "Creationism" nor "Evolution" should be taught as "factual" at schools. Why can't we Humans just admit that we do not know the answers to these types of questions? Make available all the data we have and let the young minds reading them come to a decision on their own. It is very narrow-minded to force such fundamental beliefs on developing minds. Flood youth with narrow-minded ideals and chances are most will grow up with narrow-minded belief systems...

edit on 6/12/2010 by Dark Ghost because: spelling

Because without physical evolution, you can't justify social evolution. So the former has to be taught in order to push the latter as the norm for society.

here is a shining example of home schooled familys:

Then you go on to show a video On Westboro Baptist so called church. You cannot have an intellectual debate, when you have zero knowledge of what you are debating.

WestBoro church is NOT an example of Christianity!! Based on this "churches" i.e. cults actions they are an example of everything Antichrist. OP, that means anything against Christian belief.

An egregious representation of a "Christian body" (The church is known as the body).

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Of course, that doesn't stop mom and dad from mentioning jesus every other second, or attributing all knowledge to the bible..and of course mixing in there religion 101. half hour teaching science, then 2 hours right after teaching religion and why science is wrong, but what the state needs for you to put down on their silly tests.

here is a shining example of home schooled familys:

reply to post by TheWill


Very well put, TheWill, I couldn't have said it better than you did. When my own kids were coming up, we did the Santa thing for awhile, but then told them the truth, same with the Easter Bunny. Kid games for kids to play, nothing more. My ex wife took them to church, a somewhat relaxed one that didn't preach hell fire and damnation, and when the kids came home, they would ask me questions on what they had been told. I would either give them the benefit of my own knowledge, or hand them a book to read, I always felt that reading it for yourself was better than hearing someone tell you the words. I am an avid reader myself, and instilled and cultured that childhood curiosity into a life time quest for truth, in whatever one did.

Flash forward to today. My two step sons go to a church here in town on Sunday, and when asked what religion their parents were, they replied "Wiccans." Now I fear that we, the parents are being labelled Satan worshippers because of things the boys said. Today's church seems to be doing anything and everything to get new people to join, and give over their power to the unknown one they call Jesus. They are sneaky about it too. They carry a Bible around all time time and make believe they have read it. They dress in a suit, the uniform of that which is our enemy, the Banker/Corporate/Federal/Church, those who deem it necessary to control our lives, and make anything fun against either man's laws, or God's laws.
They teach that sex is sinful, so there goes that, right off the bat. A sexually repressed person is easier to control, using the promise of a religious ecstasy. They pay not a penny in property taxes, but heavily lobby our Congress for support in furthering their agenda. I am not attacking the average church going Christian here, I am after the Hierarchy of it all, the Head of the Snake, as it were. Religious persons cannot stand it when you tell them that you have no belief in what they say, for they, think it is the only truth. [They] will tell of talking to God/Jesus on a daily basis, but those to whom you talk are "Demons," or "Satan." When asked how do they know this, "I read it in the bible, the Word of God." I'm just saying....

reply to post by freedish

That soft voice speaking to you when you see a newborn baby, or witness something spectacular, unexplainable. That is God. And some people have hardened their hearts to His voice.

There! you have it. That Pure Light Energy from which you came. I know the voice, the quiet voice that is my Inner Divine Self, but unlike you I see it and hear it not as just a male, but a female also. I do not call it "Him," or apply any other "label," or "personalize" the Grand Creators, they are what they are, and need no worship, and are far and above any sort or kind of human emotion, including love and hate. Just look at the big picture for once, instead of concentration on the small one.

reply to post by Klassified

The problem with this whole argument comes down to the holy grail of PROOF.

You want proof of God? You do realize that once you have such proof, that is, having full knowledge thereof, knowing the names and attributes of, or sigils of, then you will own, and be owned by God, and be one with G-D. In a flash.

reply to post by autowrench


That is so true,because we were bought
with a price.Jesus paid our sin debt to
God.

reply to post by SaturnFX


I was hoping to see a non-bias and very subjective approach to the subject matter. Instead I see an eloquently written rant as equally bashful as the ones written by my fellow mainstream Christians.

I could of easily written a topic stating: "Should, the belief science be a sign of arrogance?"
One sure thing about science is that, it is bound to be wrong and correct. And THATS what makes it progress.

You know I want to know when evolution theories became a fact in life?We have no clue how the universe was made.This is the type of discussions that has become so ignorant of history and faith and religion and common sense that it is insane to even think people who think creationism is real are insane.Which is worse?Obviously we do not have all of lifes answers figured out.Youd think common sense would prevail with the evolution and creationist subject.It always turns into name calling and more hatred.

The debate with evolution and creationism always goes into a lunatic smear each other routine.It is the old I'm always right and your always wrong nonsense.

If we allow the south to secede, chances are that these creationists will go away in large quantities, and thus anthropologists and other scientists alike can continue their work without the pestering from a panel of dimwits supporting yet another pseudo-science.

Another trend with evolutionist who use to be christians,all come from christians who do not teach them faith.