Senator Joe Lieberman Introduces SHIELD Act To Make Classified Information Releases Illegal

Senator Joe Lieberman Introduces SHIELD Act To Make Classified Information Releases Illegal

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Senator Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, has introduced new legislation that would make the publication of any classified intelligence source illegal. The proposed legislation is known as the Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Law Dissemination (SHIELD) Act,

“The recent dissemination by Wikileaks of thousands of State Department cables and other documents is just the latest example of how our national security interests, the interests of our allies, and the safety of government employees and countless other individuals are jeopardized by the il

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I used to think the United States was the last hope against tyrants and totalitarian regimes. But what I see today is that this country which was once the "beacon of freedom" in the world is bound to become a Orlwelian dystopia.

Shied act? Today is a sad day for the americans and a bad example to the world. I was "on top of the fence" in the case
of the Wikileaks organization, but now I see clearly that this organization is one of the best things that happened in the world since long, long time. The way they are hunting Julian Assange shows how those who built this world of lies, corruption and protectionism to the powerful acts. Wikileaks, please, never die.


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They know they have the tools to control the human race now, so they do not care.

Enough said.

reply to post by RUSSO


Last I heard American laws are only enforcable in America..
Seen as how wikileaks in NOT in America, how will that work??

Edit: And do they come up with the name first (SHIELD) and then use words to fit??

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I think that we are all screwed. I cant see the light in the end of this journey.

lol... I just now had a twisted vision of Lieberan dressed up as Elmer Fudd and giving up the Fudd laugh while saying, "I'm huntin' wabbits"

Seriouly though, this bill truly is disturbing - with about as much lingo in it I'm sure that will tie up any discovered loose ends on previously issued legislation similar in format dealing with the enslavement of mankind and mankind's 'priviledges' of freedom taken away...

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by RUSSO

 

Last I heard American laws are only enforcable in America..
Seen as how wikileaks in NOT in America, how will that work??

Edit: And do they come up with the name first (SHIELD) and then use words to fit??

edit on 3-12-2010 by backinblack because: (no reason given)

It's called Interpol...

2nd.

reply to post by backinblack


I do not know where this will stop, but I know that we, the people, will eat the bread of hell.

reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo


Perfect. Interpol, the police of the world.

Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by RUSSO

 

Last I heard American laws are only enforcable in America..
Seen as how wikileaks in NOT in America, how will that work??

Edit: And do they come up with the name first (SHIELD) and then use words to fit??

edit on 3-12-2010 by backinblack because: (no reason given)

It's called Interpol...

2nd.

So?? Still have to be breaking the law..
So if he doesn't host in America whats the Issue???

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I think he means that interpol can be triggered to arrest anyone in the world, no matter where they commit crimes. So even though he is not in the United States, the alleged crime was committed against the US.

Interpol - International Criminal Police Organization

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Im sorry but who is hunting Julian Assange and for what reason? Last I checked the warrant was from Sweden for Rape / Molestation complaints.

Why do people feel they have a right to know about intelligwence operations and sources?

Originally posted by RUSSO
reply to post by backinblack

 

I think he means that interpol can be triggered to arrest anyone in the world, no matter where they commit crimes. So even though he is not in the United States, the alleged crime was committed against the US.

Interpol - International Criminal Police Organization

edit on 3-12-2010 by RUSSO because: (no reason given)

I don't think so..America are not the world rulers despite what they think..
Interpol are after Julian because he supposidly broke a Swiss law while he was in Switzerland..
THAT'S how the law and Interpol work..

reply to post by Xcathdra

Why do people feel they have a right to know about intelligwence operations and sources?

see? Elmer Fudd.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



* tiptoes away snickering* ....

reply to post by backinblack


Interpol also pursues copyright infringements, patent infringements, trademark infringements, and remote espionage cases ( cyber terrorism) on an International scale.

The U.S. has made it abundantly clear that the information Asange has in his possession is the property of the United States.

This proves my point:

Interpol - WikiLeaks founder faces fresh arrest warrant


'nuff said....

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by RUSSO
reply to post by backinblack

 

I think he means that interpol can be triggered to arrest anyone in the world, no matter where they commit crimes. So even though he is not in the United States, the alleged crime was committed against the US.

Interpol - International Criminal Police Organization

edit on 3-12-2010 by RUSSO because: (no reason given)

I don't think so..America are not the world rulers despite what they think..
Interpol are after Julian because he supposidly broke a Swiss law while he was in Switzerland..
THAT'S how the law and Interpol work..

Interpol does not issue warrants. They faciliate the spread of an international arret warrant. Interpol has assigned a Red flag to Assange to let agencies know he has an arrest warrant that contains international extradition.

Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Why do people feel they have a right to know about intelligwence operations and sources?

see? Elmer Fudd.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

* tiptoes away snickering* ....

I'm guessing this is your not so clever way to avoid answering a valid question. What gives people the right to think they are entitled access to classiied information? If you want access, then get a job in a related field that brings you into contact with this information.

Absent that, particiapte in the political process to hold our elected leaders responsble if you dont like the manner they do their job. The argument some people make you would think they have a right to walk into a bank and demand financial records of someone just because they feel their entitled to know.

Just like the above example, the release of the information is illegal, in addition to being in possesion and distributing it. This is not a hard concept to understand.

You guys want the release of this information to hold people accountible, while at the very same time ignoring the fact the info was illegally aquired and released.

So its ok for someone to steal and release calssified information - breaking the law

But its not illegal to receive the information and distribute it.

Yeah.. thats a logical argument... /end sarcasm

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Who?

Pentagon hunting Wikileaks founder

We dont live in a democracy state?

Rape?

'Sex by Surprise' at Heart of Assange Criminal Probe

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"Whatever 'sex by surprise' is, it's only a offense in Sweden.

I call this a defamation campaign against Assange .

The way to prevent leaks is to secure intelligence related systems, and properly train, screen & supervise personnel, NOT by instituting censorship of the press, and NOT by pressuring private companies like Amazon to cancel accounts like WikiLeaks (which is a violation of the 1st Amendment!). Do you like your "freedom of speach". Do you like post here in ATS?

Of course, we’re talking about the USA, which hasn’t used the Constitution for much more than a conversation piece for years… I love the American political and legal systems.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Why do people feel they have a right to know about intelligwence operations and sources?

see? Elmer Fudd.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

* tiptoes away snickering* ....

I'm guessing this is your not so clever way to avoid answering a valid question. What gives people the right to think they are entitled access to classiied information? If you want access, then get a job in a related field that brings you into contact with this information.

Absent that, particiapte in the political process to hold our elected leaders responsble if you dont like the manner they do their job. The argument some people make you would think they have a right to walk into a bank and demand financial records of someone just because they feel their entitled to know.

Just like the above example, the release of the information is illegal, in addition to being in possesion and distributing it. This is not a hard concept to understand.

You guys want the release of this information to hold people accountible, while at the very same time ignoring the fact the info was illegally aquired and released.

So its ok for someone to steal and release calssified information - breaking the law

But its not illegal to receive the information and distribute it.

Yeah.. thats a logical argument... /end sarcasm

While I wasn't the one demanding anything in the way of 'government intelligence disclosure', since you clearly find this a sore issue on a personal scale I won't mock it anymore.

Instead, I will now CONDEMN the practice of secret government 'inteligence', as it undeniably and without fail will result in harm and hardship to the people government was elected to protect. Anyone involved in this activity should be rounded up and convicted of crimes of high treason and collaboration to bring harm tohumanity !!

Let me ask a question to everyone who feels all this information should be released. What, if anything, do you think should remain classified and l'd like top hear your reasoning too (other than the canned "because it's our tax dollars and we have a right to know" answer?