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A true prophet sent by G-d will never preach a message contrary to even one of the Torah's precepts. If someone claiming Divine Inspiration, the Torah demands that this so-called prophet prove himself. In light of this, Jesus and Paul did some rather heinous things in their lifetimes. They completely vilified those who opposed their theologies, a crime from which stems two thousand years of Christian anti-Semitism. They did everything that a false prophet could do to loudly scream that he was false. Chapters 13 and 18 of Deuteronomy clearly define false prophets, and Jesus and Paul are the living incarnations of that definition.
Vindication is the Jewish people's birthright. Christian missionaries will say that when the day comes, the Jews will be proven wrong.The Jewish Bible says otherwise.
• The idea of mashiach (messiah) is an ancient one in Judaism • The Jewish idea of mashiach is a great human leader like King David, not a savior • There is much speculation about when the mashiach will come • The Bible identifies several tasks that the mashiach will accomplish • Jews do not believe in Jesus because he did not accomplish these tasks
Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Doujutsu
You are either ignorant of the facts.. or a liar. The order of the Quaran has been altered. Period!
2nd line!
Deuteronomy 13:1 The entire word that I command you, that shall you observe to do; you shall not add to it and you shall not subtract from it. [2] If there should stand up in your midst a prophet or a dreamer of a dream, and he will produce to you a sign or a wonder, [3] and the sign or the wonder comes about, of which he spoke to you, saying "Let us follow gods of others that you did not know and we shall worship them!7quot; [4] do not hearken to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of a dream, for HASHEM, your G-d, is testing you to know whether you love HASHEM, your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul. [5] HASHEM, your G-d, shall you follow and Him shall you fear; His commandments shall you observe and to His voice shall you hearken; Him shall you serve and to Him shall you cleave. [6] And that prophet and that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death, for he had spoken perversion against HASHEM, your G-d Who takes you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeems you from the house of slavery to make you stray from the path on which HASHEM, you G-d, has commanded you to go; and you shall destroy the evil from your midst.
Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Doujutsu
Got to love the ignorance some users on this site show to others. Did you look at the links and text I offered to you? If you deny G-D then you deny G-D. I love G-D. Satan is just an Angel with the job of tempting people. Solomon temple is not Satanic or anything of that nature. I believe the prophet Elijah will return before the Messiah will come. Jesus was not the Messiah because he never fulfilled what the Messiah was supposed to do.
Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Doujutsu
Soon! Soon I will find a much better one to annoy you, and you, and you, annnnnndd yooouuuuu!!!!
G-D is great!
The order of the chapters in the Quran was determined during the caliphate of Hadrat Othman (ra) after consultation with sahabah (companions of Rasulullah [pbuh]).
During the caliphate of Hadrat Abu Bakr, Hadrat Omar said that the memorizers of Quran (who read the Quran in the proper way and beautifully) were martyred in wars, therefore was worried about Quran.
As a consequence they brought together a consultation group with 12 members one of whom was Zayd bin Sabit who was Prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) revelations clerk (writer) and this group was responsible for bringing together copies of Quran.
Hadrat Abu Bakr (ra) set forth a condition to Hadrat Zayd that he shouldn’t trust his memory when he is compiling the Quran. He should ask for two written witnesses for each verse. And Hadrat Abu Bakr also asked that whoever had a copy of Quran turn it over to Hadrat Zayd. Those who brought written copies were sworn that their copies were confirmed by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Finally, the order of the Quran verses was determined after consultations with sahabah during the caliphate of Hadrat Othman.
The number of Qurans: Al-Sajistany (deceased on year 613 G) mentioned in his book that there were 26 different qurans existing among them: The quran of: – Abe Bakre – Omer Ibn Al-Khatab – Ali Ibn Abe-Taleb, – Obay Ibn Ka'b – Abdullah Ibn Masoud – Abdullah Ibn Amre – Anes Ibn Malek – Abdullah Ibn Abbas – Abdullah Ibn Al-Zoubir – Aeisha the wife of the prophet – Hafsa the wife of the prophet – Om Salma the wife of the prophet – Obeid Ibn Omeir Al-Laithy – Ata' Ibn Abe Rabeh – Akrama Maola Ibn Abbas – Salem Maola Abe Hozifa – Moujahid Ibn Jabre – Saeed Bin Gabber – Al-Asowad Ibn Yazid – Alkama ibn Kaies – Muhammad Ibn Abe Mosa – Suleiman Ibn Mahran – Abe Mosa Al-Asharee – Talha – Al-Hajaj Ibn Yousef Al-Thaqafy – Hattan Ibn Abdullah – Al-Sajistany mentioned that there were 1700 differences among them – There is a book issued in Kuwait named: the dictionary of quran recitations, written by 2 eminent Islamic scholars r: Abdul-Al Salem Makram and Dr: Ahmed Al-Mukhtar, the book was published by Dar Al-Salasel in Kuwait on 1982 G, in 6 volumes , It said: there was a big number of quran written till the epoch of Othman, who ordered to burn all the qurans those different from his official quran, like the quran of Abe Bakre, Obay Ibn Ka'b and others . The book also said: there were 7 different ways of recitations of the quran; they differed in many aspects like articulation, replacement of a word by another and deletion of a word While the quran is saying" It is we who have sent down the Dhikr (the Quran) and surely, we will guard it"