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Why is white pride a bad thing?
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by Mactire
We all have skeletons in our ancestral history, no one is innocent, not whites, blacks, asians, native Americans, nor are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Pagans, no one. The key is to discover your cultural heritage and to celebrate it accordingly, leaving the past where it belongs. With that, I bid you "Slán go fóill"
You can say that again.
What everyone seems to forget is we are the children of the SURVIVORS. That means our ancestors were the meanest, nastiest, most cunning SOBs around. And THEY are the ones who mated with the women to produce children.
Ever hear of Genghis Khan?
Some 800 years ago, a fearsome, charismatic warrior named Temujin united the nomadic tribes of Mongolia. In 1206, he assumed the title Genghis Khan, often translated as emperor of emperors, and started invading surrounding territories. Massacring many of the people that he conquered, so as to leave no enemies and to strike fear in would-be foes, Genghis Khan ultimately controlled a massive empire ranging from today's Afghanistan across China. His male descendants continued the dynasty for many generations.
It appears that Genghis Khan left a mark on more than history: His influence may persist in the DNA of men today. According to an international team of geneticists, about 1 in 12 men in Asia--and therefore 1 in 200 men worldwide--carry a form of the Y chromosome that originated in Mongolia nearly 1,000 years ago. Today's unusual prevalence of this chromosomal variant is most likely the result of Genghis Khan's military success, the investigators say. Even more provocatively, the researchers suggest that Genghis Khan himself had this particular version of the Y.
findarticles.com...
So much for "White Supremacy" good old PROLIFIC Temujin has you beat in the only game that counts - the proliferation of your genetic material!
Oh, And do not tell the liberals that, It kinda takes the wind out of their racism whine. Must not hurt their feelings.
Holy #, not sure if I'm related to him cause I can't fight and women run away from me.
Thanks for the post.
reply to post by Killface
Brilliant man I think several posts appeared while I typed, I didn´t mean to make a point already made.
The topic is a real can of worms. I would be lying if I claimed I haven´t had racist thoughts myself. But to identify and examine them is really important. Most of the time they have stemmed from my own insecurity or lack of knowledge.
Brilliant man I think several posts appeared while I typed, I didn´t mean to make a point already made.
The topic is a real can of worms. I would be lying if I claimed I haven´t had racist thoughts myself. But to identify and examine them is really important. Most of the time they have stemmed from my own insecurity or lack of knowledge.
reply to post by Killface
That is part of the mind game that TPTB are playing with us. But first they INTENTIONALLY ripped apart American culture. See pg 2
Much of the cultural disintegration we see to day can be traced back to the decisions of the Council on Economic Development. "CED's plans resulted in widespread social upheaval throughout rural America, ripping apart the fabric of its society destroying its local economies..."[/i]
Check out Eight Steps To Destroy America
It very clearly shows WHY "'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture." destroys a nation.
...I can not stuff myself into one of the many cultures of Europe, because I simply would not fit in.
Are white Americans truly culture-less?
That is part of the mind game that TPTB are playing with us. But first they INTENTIONALLY ripped apart American culture. See pg 2
Much of the cultural disintegration we see to day can be traced back to the decisions of the Council on Economic Development. "CED's plans resulted in widespread social upheaval throughout rural America, ripping apart the fabric of its society destroying its local economies..."[/i]
Check out Eight Steps To Destroy America
It very clearly shows WHY "'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture." destroys a nation.
Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"
"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: (First) ;"Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.
"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.'
reply to post by Exodaria
You're right. Everyone is racist from time to time. It's called "Herd Mentality", the animal need to protect one's own. However; a lot of the time the word racism is thrown around unfairly, when other terms would better serve the situation, terms like "Cultural Pride". Its this pride for one's own people that promotes the continuation of culture and heritage.
Stereotyping, while it can be annoying and in some instances mean, is also funny at times and, as a general rule, rooted in truth. Stereotyping, however, is not a form of racism, though it is often used as ammunition for racist people. Those who are overly sensitive, or have no knowledge of history are usually the ones to throw out the old "THAT'S RACIST" fastest. Luckily there are intelligent people in this world that are able to see through the haze of bull$h!t and can see the world for the diverse beauty that it really is.
You're right. Everyone is racist from time to time. It's called "Herd Mentality", the animal need to protect one's own. However; a lot of the time the word racism is thrown around unfairly, when other terms would better serve the situation, terms like "Cultural Pride". Its this pride for one's own people that promotes the continuation of culture and heritage.
Stereotyping, while it can be annoying and in some instances mean, is also funny at times and, as a general rule, rooted in truth. Stereotyping, however, is not a form of racism, though it is often used as ammunition for racist people. Those who are overly sensitive, or have no knowledge of history are usually the ones to throw out the old "THAT'S RACIST" fastest. Luckily there are intelligent people in this world that are able to see through the haze of bull$h!t and can see the world for the diverse beauty that it really is.
reply to post by crimvelvet
You are absolutely correct, the only way for America to survive is if people start looking at themselves as Americans, not African-Americans, not Latin-Americans, Not Asian-Americans, just Americans.
We claim to be united under our flag, but we preach division through multiculturalism.
People may claim America has no culture or heritage of its own, but the reality is we are shaping the American heritage and culture, it is in its birth, and we as Americans get to decide what it is.
You are absolutely correct, the only way for America to survive is if people start looking at themselves as Americans, not African-Americans, not Latin-Americans, Not Asian-Americans, just Americans.
We claim to be united under our flag, but we preach division through multiculturalism.
People may claim America has no culture or heritage of its own, but the reality is we are shaping the American heritage and culture, it is in its birth, and we as Americans get to decide what it is.
Originally posted by mayabong
Whites are meant to bear the guilt of Slavery when it is a documented fact that Jews were at the Heart of the slave trade.
Say WHAT!!?!?!? You're all over the place here. You go from white pride to "it's the jooooos" rant. Are you suggesting Jews aren't "white"? What exactly is "white" anyway, and why should anyone take any particular pride in ANYTHING they had nothing to do with or no choice about?
You know, sometimes as a white anglo saxon Protestant, I almost manage to work up some pride for something I've done, and then someone comes along to make me consider converting to polynesian wiccanism. If not just scraping the dredges of what we loosely call civilization off the soles of my well-trod boots to go live with sea turtles. People really do suck.
Originally posted by Killface
reply to post by crimvelvet
You are absolutely correct, the only way for America to survive is if people start looking at themselves as Americans, not African-Americans, not Latin-Americans, Not Asian-Americans, just Americans.
We claim to be united under our flag, but we preach division through multiculturalism.
People may claim America has no culture or heritage of its own, but the reality is we are shaping the American heritage and culture, it is in its birth, and we as Americans get to decide what it is.
Very good point. America is very young. Compared to most places.
reply to post by Killface
Thank you.
I am old enough to have seen when Americans were Americans before the CED finished its damage. Yes we needed to get rid of the prejudice, we have and now it is time to move on. It is "the political class" that is keeping racism alive by constantly stirring the pot. The do it not because they actually give a rat's behind about various groups, after all, as Dan Estulin pointed out they call the rest of us "the Great Unwashed" They do it to keep us divided and fighting each other!
The sooner people realize there are really only two groups on this earth: "the political class" or TPTB and their sycophants and "the Great Unwashed" - that is the rest of us, the better. It is only then that we can make a start at preventing TPTB from shutting the cage door on all of us. AND that door is pretty near fully closed!
I suggest a look at the info on this thread click to see how TPTB actually operates (The Fed)
You are absolutely correct, the only way for America to survive is if people start looking at themselves as Americans, not African-Americans, not Latin-Americans, Not Asian-Americans, just Americans.
We claim to be united under our flag, but we preach division through multiculturalism.
Thank you.
I am old enough to have seen when Americans were Americans before the CED finished its damage. Yes we needed to get rid of the prejudice, we have and now it is time to move on. It is "the political class" that is keeping racism alive by constantly stirring the pot. The do it not because they actually give a rat's behind about various groups, after all, as Dan Estulin pointed out they call the rest of us "the Great Unwashed" They do it to keep us divided and fighting each other!
The sooner people realize there are really only two groups on this earth: "the political class" or TPTB and their sycophants and "the Great Unwashed" - that is the rest of us, the better. It is only then that we can make a start at preventing TPTB from shutting the cage door on all of us. AND that door is pretty near fully closed!
I suggest a look at the info on this thread click to see how TPTB actually operates (The Fed)
How about celebrating Humanity? The majority of us are decent good people, and our masters don't want us to unify, so it would be a wonderful
celebration and an act of defiance as well.
The human being itself is only in it's infancy. We have not yet learned how to cope with differences efficently. We haven't had a chance to get
past what we think is important, like race. We still fear what we don't know and as a fictional caracter once said "Fear leads to anger. Anger
leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Even though it's a line from a movie, we do need to learn from that. Truly put aside our petty
differences and accept people as they are regardless of race or religion. We still have a long way to go. But we're getting there slow and steady.
I hope we don't blow ourselves up before we get there.
Originally posted by MrDesolate
Originally posted by mayabong
Whites are meant to bear the guilt of Slavery when it is a documented fact that Jews were at the Heart of the slave trade.
Say WHAT!!?!?!? You're all over the place here. You go from white pride to "it's the jooooos" rant. Are you suggesting Jews aren't "white"? What exactly is "white" anyway, and why should anyone take any particular pride in ANYTHING they had nothing to do with or no choice about?
You know, sometimes as a white anglo saxon Protestant, I almost manage to work up some pride for something I've done, and then someone comes along to make me consider converting to polynesian wiccanism. If not just scraping the dredges of what we loosely call civilization off the soles of my well-trod boots to go live with sea turtles. People really do suck.
I'm not saying white pride is right, I'm just trying to figure out the double standard here. As far as the "its the joooos" rant, I was merely stating history. Of course a hard dose of history can be taken as an attack. As far as Jews being a seperate race and not white. Thats up for discussion in another thread, I don't want to get on the jew tangent. lol.
“Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race. - The leader of American Jewry in the 1930s, Rabbi Stephen F. Wise.
Originally posted by seedofchucky
reply to post by mayabong
Eat watermelon? Was that all you could reply with ????
He was trying to prove a point not be a racist prick like you.
You are the one who started it saying all whites do is get drunk.
Im sure if he felt like meeting you on your own playing feild he would have owned you.
Stupid ignorant troll...
reply to post by mayabong
All right. Let's approach it from that angle. Your thread asks a question, "Why is white pride a bad thing?" Before we can presume to answer the question, we have to ensure we're discussing the same thing.
What is "white" in this context of "white pride"? You seem to have the opinion that Jews are excluded. Identify for me what "white" means and we can see about whether or not it's right to be prideful about it.
All right. Let's approach it from that angle. Your thread asks a question, "Why is white pride a bad thing?" Before we can presume to answer the question, we have to ensure we're discussing the same thing.
What is "white" in this context of "white pride"? You seem to have the opinion that Jews are excluded. Identify for me what "white" means and we can see about whether or not it's right to be prideful about it.
I have thought about this subject more than once. I read that every form of "pride" is actually trademarked. Black, indian, yellow, mexican, and on
and on and on. Except one. I'll give you two guesses which one it is and the first doesnt count. There are literally hundreds of "trademarked prides"
if you will, except white. And dont run out and try to trademark it, won't happen
edit on 2-12-2010 by inbound because: none ya
IMO, The OP is greedy. Cmon, you guys have Christmas, St patricks day, Easter, Black Friday Okay, but seriously now, white isnt a culture my
friend. Black isnt a culture. Yellow isnt a culture. African is a culture. Latino / Chicano is a culture, And yes, europeans DO have culture, but I
think you disregard the fact that France is different from Italy, or England is different from Poland, or Germany. I have a friend who is German and
he doens't do much but go visit his Dad in Germany every year. Why?
America of course!
America is a culture. White isn't. White Pride doesn't have anything to do with Europe. If your Caucasian, well, that's different , but you have to understand not all whites are from Europe.
Also, this thread was headed into the wrong direction when you brought jews up -- bad move there. All in all, find out what you are. You arent from Whitiea I can tell you. If your German celebrate German culture. if your Spaniard, celebrate Spanish culture. If your Russian, celebrate Russian culture. Go take a DNA test and find out what you are, because "white" my friend, ISN'T a culture
America of course!
America is a culture. White isn't. White Pride doesn't have anything to do with Europe. If your Caucasian, well, that's different , but you have to understand not all whites are from Europe.
Also, this thread was headed into the wrong direction when you brought jews up -- bad move there. All in all, find out what you are. You arent from Whitiea I can tell you. If your German celebrate German culture. if your Spaniard, celebrate Spanish culture. If your Russian, celebrate Russian culture. Go take a DNA test and find out what you are, because "white" my friend, ISN'T a culture
people celebrate and take pride in their culture or their religion, not their skin tone. latino's take pride in their spanish heritage and culture,
not because they are brown. italians take pride in their country as do dominicans and many other people around the world.
but to specifically be proud because your skin tone is white is completely different to what other people celebrate.
be proud to be american and celebrate american culture, not the color of your skin tone.
but to specifically be proud because your skin tone is white is completely different to what other people celebrate.
be proud to be american and celebrate american culture, not the color of your skin tone.
Being proud to be white sounds a little racist to me.I would rather be proud of what i have accomplished in life instead of my skin color.I feel like
the whole proud to be (enter skin color here) is rather ignorant.It's not just the white's either,other races seem to need a serious reality check
aswell.For instance,black people are always whining about slavery like we still have them chained up in our backyard.Most of the ones complaining
about it have never even seen a slave in their life, they probably just want an excuse to feel sorry for themselves.Mexicans here in America want
their own holiday where they can wave the Mexican flag around and proclaim that they are proud to be Mexican.If they are so proud of their country
then why is it so hard to keep them in it?
reply to post by mayabong
i'm not even sure what "white" is, let alone "white culture" or "white heritage"
regarding comments about "the jews": in my experience, every time someone says something about "the jews" (as if they were some monolithic, group-think construction like "the Borg") every time i hear or read "the jews are conspiring to..." or "the jews who benefit from..." every time i hear that kind of thing, it occurs to me that you only have to replace the words "the jews" with "the monied class" or "the powers that be" or even, simply, "The Rich" and you immediately make the comment infinitely more accurate and simultaneously infinitely less mean, racist, bigoted and ignorant
regardless of color, (or whether god requires your schmekel circumcised), rich people tend to be bad for non-rich people -
i'm not even sure what "white" is, let alone "white culture" or "white heritage"
regarding comments about "the jews": in my experience, every time someone says something about "the jews" (as if they were some monolithic, group-think construction like "the Borg") every time i hear or read "the jews are conspiring to..." or "the jews who benefit from..." every time i hear that kind of thing, it occurs to me that you only have to replace the words "the jews" with "the monied class" or "the powers that be" or even, simply, "The Rich" and you immediately make the comment infinitely more accurate and simultaneously infinitely less mean, racist, bigoted and ignorant
regardless of color, (or whether god requires your schmekel circumcised), rich people tend to be bad for non-rich people -
reply to post by Inclusius
ugh If your proud of who you are, regardless of skin tone, thats fine. perfect. be proud, keep it to yourself or go back to [hate-site-nolink] and stop trying to rationalize your bigotry.
ugh If your proud of who you are, regardless of skin tone, thats fine. perfect. be proud, keep it to yourself or go back to [hate-site-nolink] and stop trying to rationalize your bigotry.
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