The Great Pyramid: A Conundrum Made of Stone (Built by ET's?)

Originally posted by 11118
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I'll give a better picture hold on.


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Where did you find that picture and where is it from? Is it the great pyramid? And those indentions seem to make the pyramid more of a 8-pointed star than a pyramid as we know it...

I work in construction, and have a contractors license, I can attest that even with todays modern marvels we cannot replicate a structure with such immense precision. I have never bought into the conventional theories, and I find it hard to believe that human beings could accomplish such a task through sheer physical strength. That's like saying you can literally move a mountain if you have enough people and enough rope.

What gets me, is even if they had the means and the time to construct the outer walls, how the hell did they transport and set into place those mammoth granite stones, not to mention the intricacies of the inner chambers....

Great Post OP. I myself have studied and researched the mysteries of the pyramids for #less hours. I then came across what to me is the final answer on who built them, and how they were built. If you recall from your research the Nile did not originally empty into the Meditarranean but rather into the Atlantic. This fact which is verified by the latest satallite imageing can be researched. It gives credence to passage below.

" The enormous stones were transported using anti-gravitational techniques well known to these people. (They were carried on platforms, 20 centimetres above the paved roads, which were constructed using the same principals as those of the pyramids.)

Was this intended to be the Kings palace, or his tomb?

Nothing of the sort. This pyramid was much more important - it was a tool. An enormous tool, I admit, but a tool just the same. So, too, was the Pyramid of Cheops, in Egypt, though it was much smaller in size.

A tool? Please explain - I'm no longer with you.

one of the great mysteries was about to be revealed to me - one which had provoked so much inquiry and had been the subject of so much writing on Earth.

You will have realised, that these were highly advanced people. They possessed a profound understanding of Universal Law and used their pyramid as a captor of cosmic rays, forces and energies, as well as terrestrial energies.

Inside, rooms positioned according to a precise plan, served the King and certain other great initiates, as powerful communications centres, enabling communication with other planets and other worlds in the Universe. Such communication with extra-terrestrials is no longer possible for people on Earth; but the people of Lemuria 9 Mu) in those days, by natural means and by exploiting cosmic forces, were in constant communication with other beings and were even able to explore parallel universes with the pyramid.

Was this the sole purpose of the pyramid?

Not quite. Its second use was to make rain. By a system of plates, made of a special alloy incorporating silver as its major component, these people were able, in a few days, to cause the accumulation of clouds above the country, and so, to have rain as they needed it.

Thus, they were able to create, virtually, a paradise over the whole continent. Rivers and springs never dried up, but flowed lazily across the numerous plains of a land that was essentially flat.

Fruit trees were laden with fruit, bowing under the weight of oranges, mandarins or apples, according to latitude. Exotic fruits, of kinds that actually no longer exist on Earth, were harvested in abundance. One such fruit, called the Laikoti, possessed a property that caused an excitation of brain activity, allowing whoever ate it to solve problems which would normally be beyond them. This property was not actually a drug but the fruit was, nevertheless, condemned by the sages. The Laikoti was only authorised to be planted in the gardens of the King. The striking similarity between this prohibition from eating the Laikoti - for reasons relating to knowledge - and, in the Bible, Adam being forbidden to eat the apple on similar grounds." The Angel Thoa from the book the Thiaoouba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet orginally published as Abduction to the 9th Planet.

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1 There are no records because the Muslims and the Romans burned them all. There are records of the some 200 years of Pyramids research and development before the Giza Pyramids, including failed pyramids that exploded from pressure. These led up to the knowledge necessary to construct the Giza Pyramid. If ETs were in there, why did it take over a century to develop the style and math? pretty retarded aliens if you ask me.

2.) The pyramids were built via internal ramps. It was discovered by a French scientist some time ago

www.3ds.com...

news.nationalgeographic.com...

3.) The Egyptians had lasers. The stars. tracking them was as good as lasers. They also had modules. To move things. Here are some pictures from a course i took on the subject. They were quite advanced:













Humans built it. There's nothing special about them. It's just simply a dead conspiracy being beat by desperation.

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Hi Excellent thread and I topic I am most interested in, by far and above the most informative and eye opening and seemingly on the right path book/theory I have read is "The Giza Power Plant" www.theseekerbooks.com...

I really do think this guy has it closer then anyone else, it surely must've been a resonating power generator, the technicial aspects all add up.

The link provided is too a review (which I have not read!) but I link it so you can see the book, go find it and read!

Thanks for the excellent effort in your post!

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The Egyptians did quarry stones, however this doesn't prove anything about the Pyramid. Not to mention the granite slabs which were cut out of bedrock with supposedly copper tools.

Unfortunately you also gave me a picture of a temple which has nothing to do with the actual pyramid.

The few pictures towards the end of your post are theoretical pictures, and none of these tools have been found whatsoever. You haven't proven anything besides stating subjective theories based on claims withouy evidence in regards to the building of the Great Pyramid.

The Romans and Muslims burned all the records?

The Gereat Pyramid has absolutely no carving on it whatsoever, I guess those were 'burned' down as well? This is not a common practice in Egypt, especially in the Kings Chamber which is supposedly a tomb.

As for the internal ramp theory it seems plausible. However, it is just a theory - I read Houdin's entire book "The Secret of the Pyramid". Let's not forget the Pyramid still needed an external ramp, not the mention that an internal ramp would lead to a problems with the pyramid keeping it's structure especially during the 14th century Earth quake that rocked Cairo causing the Pyramid to lose it's immense amount of casing stones.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by 11118

 

the Egyptians recorded minute aspects of their society but this one magnificent achievement has no written documentation whatsoever.

so where are the intimate records of thier alien freinds ?

There are records everywhere. The Egyptians were polytheistic.

No matter who built them there are cool

Fantastic OP ! you really have to be looking at these objects with closed eyes if you really believe that they were built by man alone. I can understand people being reluctant to accept that all over the world there are buildings which defy the technology for the time in which they were built. The facts as I see them and the evidence as we are now beginning to see it, will all lead to the conclusion of our new awakening, possibily in the short future. This is I feel what many people are experiencing now, that we are not alone in this universe. Beings have been here before and are most likely still be here or at least visiting us on a regular basis. I feel the awakening as people are talking will be the understanding that life pre-dates anything we understand now, right across the universe and beyond.
Sorry to say that "evidence emerging from all corners of the earth are suggesting that an advanced race of beings" quite probably manipulating our DNA or at least aiding our development. I am not saying for one moment that humans were not involved in the building of these great structures, I am just not agreeing with the posibility that humans were alone.
I believe and new dawn is arriving where man will think differently about his place in this world and indeed this universe. This is quite possibly what the goverments or the powers that be are trying to stop, either by creating another war or by causing some other distraction. You have to be very, very arrogant not to except the information that is already available to us.
Open your hearts, mind and souls and remember love is the real power of this universe. The truth is available to all of us.

Originally posted by 11118
I believe, without a doubt, that the Great Pyramid was used as a mechanism for a properly-oriented place of initiation

I concur.

If you look at the construction of a pyramid externally and internally, it resembles something more akin to a speaker box, something that channels or amplifies.

I have a theory that it was used for communicating and/or amplifying the persons aspects (thoughts, physical etc) - equally the tesla theory looks good as well...

Also bear in mind the Egyptians, especially those in the higher echelons of power regularly consulted people who practised black magic (pre-science?) so there may be another use for those 'chambers' (certainly the Pharaohs Curse is referred to as a powerful spell written in hieroglyphics by those in the middle east and eastern regions).

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The Romans and Muslims both burned the libraries of Egypt. In Addition, numerous times kings and queens destroyed their ancestors weightings. This is when they scrape off the details.

Also, sorry, they are not theoretical. The diagrams of the devices are right in there. And to state the temple is not related shows your lack of knowledge of the civilization. The Giza pyramid was considered the last in a 200-150 year series of construction projects, starting with Zoser's pyramid. This pyramid marked the first time Egypt made a pyramid. It was primitive, lousy, and incomplete. Archeologists have discovered that the architect Imhotep, who built it, returned to the project after its completion and built more ontop of it. This first pyramid was made simply because the Pharaoh wanted a mountain, so the standard burial mastaba was stacked up like a mountain.

After that pyramid, later on came an experimental Pharaoh called Sneferu. Sneferu did not built one pyramid, he built quite a few. He took the design idea and made it bigger. Problem was, the pyramids were flawed structures, because they built them with slanted bricks. So when they finally made a big enough one, the pyramid exploded from the pressure, known as the fail pyramid, or the pyramid at Meidum. He discovered this fatal flaw and had his men orient the bricks flat. Thus, he then decided to make another pyramid, one that tested angles. This is known as the Bent pyramid. Finally, the man finished off his life with his legacy pyramid, the North Pyramid, also called the Red Pyramid. He built this after all the experiments, failures, and successes of he and his ancestors. But it wasn't finished. The Red pyramid set a precedent, it was the largest of its day. It had to be outdone. So the next dude up took the pyramid, and scaled it up to what you see at giza today. Giza is the results of over 200 years of construction, experiment, and development. By humans. No aliens, because I don't see how the hell aliens that can build space ships to get here would take 200 yeas to design something like that. it was made by man.

No theory, no false. The fact of the matter is that the Giza pyramid did not pop out of the air. It is the last of a series. The evolution of structure.

Now how is the temple related? The Egyptians were done. They stopped building Pyramids shortly there after. They moved on to bigger and better things. For them, that was temples. Some temples had small pyramids on them to allude back to their ancestors, because without them, they would not have the know how of how to build the temples. The knowledge gained from. over a dozen pyramids and 150-200 years of research and development allowed them the capacity yo produce amazing temples and works thereafter. Eventually the Egyptians stopped even bothering with pyramids.

It's funny. The Egyptians got bored with the design and so went onto something new. You folks worship their preschool art like God himself came down to design it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but moving rocks around and building simply geometries is not that hard. That's why the Egyptians got bored and moved onto more complex forms, as I showed in the temple I posted.

Feel I'm wrong? Tell me how. until then, I;'d rather trust researching specialists over a conspiracy theory that's laughable once you get a basic college education in architecture.

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people that think aliens have built the pyramids are either extremely simple minded or have never opened a history book.

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Stopped building pyramids?

Or did they not have the ability to do so.

Abu Sir

(Fifth Dynasty 2465 - 2345 B.C.)

Fourteen pyramids built with an extreme lack of precision.

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Lisht

(twelfth dynasty 1991-1759 B.C.)

Two Pyramids and several subsequent others built with an extreme lack of precision.

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And there are several more, the Great pyramid and it's two preprocessors are still a black hole in history.

www.gizapower.com...

This is what the Great Pyramid was used for.
100% hands down. Alot more believable than the laughable tomb theory too.
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Originally posted by JustStop
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people that think aliens have built the pyramids are either extremely simple minded or have never opened a history book.

My (college) history text-book says that the Great Pyramid was built by Free-Workers using ramps and sleds over the course of 23 years for Pharaoh Khufu as a tomb.

I believe it is the text book that his fallible, lacking the word theory in any of the paragraphs but instead written as if undeniable fact which is the epitome of ignorance.

Originally posted by 11118
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I cannot show you details on construction, but

Because they don't exist.

So, how is it the OP says the Egyptians left detailed records on everything they did (except pyramid construction?)

That's a complete straw man argument. You can eat a straw man if you want - I would prefer Shredded Wheat myself. More nutritious, similar texture.

Before entering the mortuary temple visitors pass under the windowed gateway where Ramses had his pleasure rooms and enter an open space which was once a magnificent garden. Facing, is the deeply carved first pylon, which shows Ramses fighting imaginary battles against the enemies of Egypt but on the inner walls are scenes of battles that he really did fight and win. To the right of the gateway is the temple that Hatshepsut built and on the left is the temple of the Divine Adoratrix, which was added at a later date.

famouspharaohs.blogspot.com...


In comparison to the Great Pyramid having no carvings whatsoever, and hieroglyphs that are poorly painted in an obscure out-of-the-way area.

Except the pyramid is a tomb, whereas the other construction is a temple.

You're aware, right, that there are temple remains in front of all three Giza pyramids? The one in front of the Great Pyramid is dedicated to Khufu. Think about that. The others are dedicated to Kaphre and Menkaure.

Originally posted by 11118I also tend to believe the Great Pyramid to be of a great feat and would at least have some carvings showing who the architecture was built for - like the mortuary for Ramses III illustrates on it's pylons.

However, practically no interior decorations are present in any early dynastic construction. Including the 4th dynasty, when the Giza Pyramids were built.

Why is another question. Tastes, perhaps. At any rate, the fact remains that no 4th dynasty edifice contains carved hieroglyphs or artwork like the tombs and temples of later periods (such as the mortuary temple I mentioned, which was built almost 1500 years after the Great Pyramid.) Are we then to assume that ET built them all?

Originally posted by FireMoon
Really and what do you base that on? Given most of the written records were destroyed, over time, by various sects and invaders we will probably never know.

But, according to the OP, we have all these records, which record "everything they did," with the notable exception of the Great pyramid construction.

So, how do account for this discrepancy? And, since you obviously know that the OP made that up, how is it that you yourself haven't chimed in and pointed out the disinformation this person is feeding us at ATS?

Originally posted by FireMoon
The Rosetta Stone was deciphered in 1822 so it's wholly possible they, rather badly, faked the Khufu inscriptions 15 years later, to say it wasn't is simply not true. .

I explained exactly how this is, in fact, not possible at all.

You ignore facts in order to maintain your fantasy view of ancient history. Ignorance is one thing. Purposeful ignorance is quite another.

Harte

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Could the pyramids have something to do with the earths magnetic field and the poles shift?

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If I have a house that I built in 2008 and decide to build a guest house in the back in 2010 and my house is found 50 years later, would you automatically assume that they were built at the same time? Probably, which is a lack of consideration.

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Yea. the whole Civil war, collapsing government of that time certainly made time for precision in construction.

FYI, Once the country stabilized, the built masterpieces once more, like the temple I showed you.

Now maybe I'm silly, but it would reason to me that civil war would make for poor construction.

Oh, and regardless, it's over 2000 years old. You really have no right to judge weather it's good or not, as you have no way to know what it once looked like.