Homeland Security = Hitler's SS?

I think its all a bunch of BS if you ask me not the op but all the radical changes between agencies, laws, legislation, and all the restrictions and all the fear and discontent being spread about. The biggest threat to us is that these people in the DHLS all probably think they are doing the right thing, along with most other branches of the federal beauracracy, they all think they are doing the right thing. If there really is a conspiracy that is that deep in the governnment/ world powers, it is a secret to all these people that are doing "the right thing" just my opinion.

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Well most of the things such as the Patriot act, TSA scanners, and the homeland security committee, internet censorship. Are all led by jews. Maybe this is their revenge.

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When will the knocks on doors begin, and people start to disappear into camps in the name of Homeland Security?

I am afraid they have already started but as usual the Media ignores the incidents.

.. Norman [the Henshaw lawyer] found, after a great deal of study, there was no law at all that pertained to this case, especially how it was carried out with no notice or warning to correct the problem, if in fact one existed. Basically the bottom line is Danny was convicted on laws that do not even exist. SO MUCH FOR JUSTICE [The behavior and health of the pigs was not consist with the disease. AND Pigs were NOT listed on the law cited.]

[Incident]
Gladstone, Virginia: “I am sitting here at 1:00 am, and trying to figure out what has happened to our little farm. Last Tuesday morning at 5:30 am a Game Warden arrested my husband on a Class 2 Misdemeanor for having a mammalian shooting enclosure without a permit. That was followed by agents from the USDA swooping in (9 different vehicles) and beginning the slaughter of our hogs. It is almost one week later, and it is still going on. We have 24 hour armed surveillance, we are not allowed on our preserve, we are not allowed to do our own testing, and they have killed 2 of our pet hogs that we had in a totally separate pen [separately deeded property not on warrant]. We are in shock. My husband has had a hunting club for 11 years and out of the blue, our lives have been taken over and our rights taken away. WE are being treated like drug dealers by the agents. The Game Wardens are stunned at the way this all happened and have said they have never seen anything like this. Even one of the USDA’s agents from Ohio said he has never witnessed anything like what is going on here Any advise?” Cindi Henshaw
Comment Cindi — September 18, 2006

We have 24 hour armed surveillance, we are not allowed on our preserve, we are not allowed to do our own testing, and they have killed 2 of our pet hogs that we had in a totally separate pen [separately deeded property not on warrant]. We are in shock. [house arrest continued for a total of ten days]

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There are several other recent incidents where "Swat teams" showed up on flimsy reasons to harass farmers. Paul G had his house broken into and his computers trashed by USDA agents. The Fallice's had their herd of rare imported milking sheep killed, John Munsell lost the business that had been in his family for years for daring to prove Conagra was shipping him contaminated meat.

Heck the Civil asset forfeiture laws allows the government to seize property without charging anyone with a crime. An informant stands to gain up to 25% of the forfeited assets and the police can keep up to 80 percent of the property seized for themselves.

"Civil asset forfeiture has allowed police to view all of America as some giant national K-Mart, where prices are not just lower, but non-existent — a sort of law enforcement 'pick-and-don't-pay.'"
—U.S. Representative Henry Hyde,

will just like in world war 2 good nations will come to the rescue and save humanity from the forces of darkness.

now only if great britain, canada and australia have the balls to destroy the united states before it drags the world into nuclear destruction.

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That's just terrible. I heard about how farmers are getting there land stolen by the Federal Government, this nightmare is so beyond what freedom loving America deserves. What is frightening me the most is the fact this could be Global Fascism and globalism like so many are saying it is. To think of a Global nazi party, winning through stealth, deception and no need for war is horrific.

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
Martial Law? I was very sceptical about such an idea, but now seeing what is happening today with TSA... maybe it has already happened?

They will not proclaim Martial Law as they are already doing it.
They just didn't bother to put up signs so we'd know.
Besides, you only find out we're under martial law if you are doing something "against the law", like assembling freely, speaking out against the government, refusing to provide Identification or exercising any other passe notions of individual liberty.

Meanwhile, the Public thinks:
"People who do that kind of stuff are usually a little crazy anyways so it's no great loss. I mean, I don't need to endanger myself for the rights of somebody else, right?"

That's if they even notice that anything is going on around them besides what TV shows them.

"Those who choose security over Liberty, DESERVE neither." Ben Franklin. Obviously something is not right in our country, Agencies with expanded powers that are unconstitutional!? Private militias springing up all over the country. People are worried, really worried for the future of this "Once" great nation. Pretty much our government has been taken over by Aristocrats in the disguise of democrats and republicans. Im creating a new political party, Constitutional Independents; who's with me?

Aye, Hitler and his twisted ideals of how the world should be run have migrated into the United States.

The globalist elite who run this planet's wealth actually embrace hi methods and his plans. The NEW New World Order was all made real by Hitler.

At least he is dead. =\

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
National Socialism didn't end with with WW2.

America is far from Nazism. I think it'd be correct to say that when Soviet Russia fell, The USSA emerged. Personally, I think that in a hundred years when it's all said and done, we'll have three main "isms". National Socialism, Communism and of course, Americanism.

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(Disclaimer: I love America and it's people. Just not it's government. Same can be said for virtually any country out there.)

Trying to make direct comparisons of the US security apparatus and the Nazi security apparatus is difficult.

The SS grew from Hitlers Personal Guard, which were originally an elite group of the SA (brownshirts). As time went on this organisation grew. Eventually giving rise to the Waffen SS frontline troops and those in charge of the extermination camps.

This would be akin to a political party militia, being given the secret services job and then expanding that job to an SF role and eventually to become like the marines.

The Gestapo was formed by Goering out of the already existing german police special investigation departments (after it was purged and staffed by Nazis). This would be like a political party taking over the FBI/DEA etc.

The organisation names are not important. The important point is that both these entities became effectively above the law. Whatever they did became legal by virtue of the fact they were doing it (for the public good).

That principle, that government entities can break the law to protect the state, is the road to ruin wherever and whenever it is allowed.

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Well done.

I'm assuming you have watched "The end of America" by Naomi Wolf?.. she gives a lecture on historical similarities between 1930s German National Socialists & the amalgamation of crap in DC.

Found below on yt, recommend Netflix version.



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History repeating?.. hitlers chair.. compared to w's oval orifice decor. Looks like even 1930s "tyrant chic" decor is making a comeback, a must have accessory no Reich fuhrer can rule without!.. lol

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"Just As 'Legal' As Hitler was in 1933"
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On 30 April 1928, Goebbels wrote in his paper "Der Angriff": "We enter parliament in order to supply ourselves, inside the arsenal of democracy, with its own weapons. We become members of the Reichstag in order to paralyze the liberal Weimar sentiment with its own assistance. If democracy is so stupid as to give us free tickets and per diem for the this "blockade" (Barendienst), that is its own affair." Later in the same article he continued: "We do not come as friend nor even as neutrals. We come as enemies: As the wolf bursts into the flock, so we come." Crucially, Gurtner - like Alito and Gonzales - ruled that vital "national interests" - as defined by Hitler as head of state - had precedence over the rule of law. Time and time again, Gurtner supported unlawful measures and even murders, because they had been declared by Hitler as crucial for the "survival of the state." That's what makes the efforts by some American lawyers - like Alito and Gonzales - and most GOP politicians - to argue that the president can and should be above the law - so disturbing.

With TSA and 6 year olds, I thought it only fitting to bump my old post on the Nazi TSA and HS.

How bad is it going to get before people stand up for their rights?

nazis came over in boatloads after WW2 (because they were secretly our allies whom we funded and essentially created) this is nothing new, america is entirely nazi.

they just showed up at my door step. asking about a neighbor who works for customs, at one point even asked (all questions traveling through screen door), whether anyone had smelled marijuana in the air?

WTF WTF WTF??????????

Replace the word Fatherland with Homeland and institute the same policies. It's amazing what semantics can do for things. Hell we already have Concentration Camps there just needs to be an excuse to use them IMO

Now the 4th amendment is under attack and police are getting god-like powers to just do what ever they want without protecting the rights of citizens.

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The rise of Fascism... babies getting pat downs at air-ports, invasive government spying on the people, police state, nanny state, control... there will be no end to this madness until we put an end to it.

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I really liked this comment... felt it fits here also.

Originally posted by James1982
Day after day I see this Country becoming more of a fascist police state who's government wields more power over its people than nations like China and Nazi Germany, heck ever North Korea is going to look like "the land of the free" over the next couple years. This is really getting out of hand.

So lets recap. The government can take ANY US citizen, and throw them in a secret prison for the REST OF THEIR lives with NO trial, rights, or anything whatsoever.

The government can MURDER it's own citizens perfectly legally and you can't do anything about it.

The government can control 100% of what the MSM shows.

The government labels people who disagree with them as terrorists or extremists.

The government can spy on ANY US citizen with no warrant, and there is NOTHING anybody can do about it.

The government controls what we put in our bodies, who we associate with, where we travel, and HOW we travel. With NO trail or anything to do these things to you.

Now the government will censor the internet MORE than China does!

WAKE UP PEOPLE! How is the US NOT like Nazi Germany? Anybody? I always get people scoffing at the idea and calling me ridiculous or cliche for stating this. But it is FACT. You and I have NO rights whatsoever. The government can take our property, rights, freedom, and even our LIVES with NO reason at all! The end of this country has already happened. we live in a dictatorship. NOBODY in this country is free, except the elites.

I would LOVE for someone to try and debate me on this, but you can't. Everything I have stated is true, you know it, but you don't want to accept it. The USA as we used to know it is GONE, DESTROYED. RIP USA.

No, I am not being dramatic, I am being honest. If you are too cowardly to accept the truth don't whine and call me names because of it. Wake up or shut up.