N. Korea Crisis - Updated as News come to hand

reply to post by Vitchilo

you have a link to the Korean Armistice Agreement you read the 25,000 troop limit.

Every Korean Armistice Agreement i have found doesn't say anything about the number of U.S. troops allowed.

also the Washington doesn't have to enter Sk waters to do the exercises. they can conduct them in international waters. which starts at 12 miles from the coast.

reply to post by Mercenary2007

It seems it's 35 000... so it's alright..

(c) Cease the introduction into Korea of Reinforcing military personnel; provided, however, that the rotation of units and personnel, the arrival in Korea of personnel on a temporary duty basis, and the return to Korea of personnel after short periods of leave or temporary duty outside of Korea shall be permitted within the scope prescribed below: "Rotation" is defined as the replacement of units or personnel by other units or personnel who re commencing a tour of duty in Korea. Rotation personnel shall be introduced into and evacuated from Korea only through the ports of entry enumerated in Paragraph 43 hereof. Rotation shall be conducted on a man-for-man basis; provided, however, that no more than thirty-five thousand (35,000) persons in the military service shall be admitted into Korea by either side in any calendar month under the rotation policy. No military personnel of either side shall be introduced into Korea if the introduction of such personnel will cause the aggregate of the military personnel of that side admitted into Korea since the effective date of this Armistice Agreement to exceed the cumulative total of the military personnel of that side who have departed from Korea since that date. Reports concerning arrivals in and departures from Korea of military personnel shall be made daily to the Military Armistice Commission and the Neutral Nations Supervisory Commission; such reports shall include places of arrival and departure and the number of persons arriving at or departing from each such place. The Neutral Nations Supervisory Commission, through its Neutral Nations Inspection Teams, shall conduct supervision and inspection of the rotation of units and personnel authorized above, at the ports of entry enumerated in Paragraph 43 hereof.

The entire treaty... Here

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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by 1FutureMarine1
Only problem is, I don't think they ever attacked a civilian population
or destroyed civilian infastructure.

when I hear statements like this
my mind starts remembering events
past like when GW Bush was criticized
for bombing civilian infrastructure in Afgh
and Iraq. And Bush said something like
"Well they shouldn't have terrorist in
civilian communities" or something to that nature.
Doesn't that apply here. It has been confirmed
that SK Marines were in the same area
as civilians. Doesn't the presence of
SK Marines make it a legitimate military
target to NK? Or is it a double standard
only for use by the US. ?

Ohh no, no, no, I'm not condeming the placement of the attack. Just pointing out that I don't think North korea has ever gone so far as to attack civilian communities. I do condemn their reasoning for it.

War should never involve civilians. I honestly wish that If I had control of a nation. I would make it a godamn law that civilians must not ever be apart of military combat. No matter what. Not sure howthis would ever work though.

Apparently, there's a battle cruiser coming for joint US-SK exercises. May be interesting to see how this unfolds.

i just posed abou the aircraft carrier being sent t www.foxnews.com...

Originally posted by somewhereisthetruth
Apparently, there's a battle cruiser coming for joint US-SK exercises. May be interesting to see how this unfolds.

More than that...

The U.S. forces also plan to mobilize battleships including the USS Cowpens, USS Shiloh, USS Stethem and USS Fitzgerald, according to the statement.

So at least 4 battleships...plus an aircraft carrier... plus how many subs out there that we don't know about...

That is a lot of battleships I just think whats gonna happen is that the us is hoping just hoping for north korea to attack again just seems a lot of battleships for this seems like its going to happen whether we like it or not

US response to this attack

US send nuclear aircraft carrier to Korea

A US nuclear aircraft carrier is en route to South Korea to carry out scheduled war games in a show of force against North Korea.

The nuclear-powered USS George Washington, which carries 75 warplanes and has a crew of over 6,000, left a naval base south of Tokyo on Wednesday morning to join planned joint exercises with South Korea.

where did u get this man i've been googling nothing really popping up on that

where did u get this man i've been googling nothing really popping up on that

One way or another there will be another war with North Korea, whether it be in 2 days, 2 years or 2 decades.

It's going to happen at some point.

Although, at the moment, I personally believe this time we will be OK, it is fair to say that this event is the most serious in 50 years and brings us as close to another war as there has been since the cease-fire.

Just as an educational note, the terms "battleship" and "battlecruiser" refer to specific, specialized types of warships. These huge, heavily-armed behemoths have pretty much passed into naval history.

The term you are looking for is warship. This refers to any ocean-going naval vessel whose primary purpose is combat. By analogy, a jeep with a missile-launcher and a main battle tank are both military vehicles, but the jeep should not be referred to as a "tank".

USS George Washington is an aircraft carrier. USS Cowpens & USS Shiloh are guided-missile cruisers, and USS Stethem & USS Fitzgerald are guided-missile destroyers.

Originally posted by Mercenary2007

5. no country has successfully invaded the U.S. in the last 200+ years. the british tried and we know how that ended.

Yeah with you lot building some new stuff in Washington and agreeing to carry on paying our poxy King his due tribute, thanks by the way the cash has come in quite handy over the years.

I don't think anything ``major`` is gonna happen until at least Saturday night Eastern time... which would be Sunday morning in Korea, the start of the SK-US naval drill in the Yellow Sea, just off China's and North Korea's coast.

I wonder what China is planning to do... Send submarines? Just scream? Nothing?

If there is a flash point, it will be during that drill... and if nothing happens during the drill, I think it'll calm down until North Korea does something stupid again... in a few months...


More news...
Fear of instability stops China reining in N.Korea: analysts
Yep. China doesn't want instability... or an unified Korea right on their border.

China media takes pro-Pyongyang tone over shelling
You can't get China to be hard on NKorea... NKorea is China's buffer zone..

Dont forget the poor old Aussie battlers, we Australians are also long standing allies of the US and NATO.

Our committment to the cause cas be seen from our deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan..earlier Vietnam.

We also host the US Military at Pine Gap in Central Australia

TextPine Gap is the commonly used name for a satellite tracking station at 23°47′56″S 133°44′13″E / 23.799°S 133.737°E / -23.799; 133.737, some 18 kilometres (11 mi) south-west of the town of Alice Springs in the centre of Australia which is operated by both Australia and the United States.

TextIt consists of a large computer complex with eight radomes protecting antennas and has over 800 employees. It is officially called the Joint Defence Space Research Facility. It is believed to be one of the largest ECHELON ground stations and appears to be physically and operationally similar to the American signals intelligence facilities at Buckley Air Force Base, Colorado and Menwith Hill, United Kingdom. United States government personnel at Pine Gap are believed to be mostly from the National Security Agency and subordinate service-associated agencies as well as the Central Intelligence Agency

wikipedia

We also enterained Mrs Clinton earlier this month.

Lastly...our former PM, Mr K Rudd, now Foreign Minister speaks fluent mandarin, a handy skill when you
want to make sure the translator is on the ball.

Should an escalation occur, you can be sure we will be there!

After all....what are mates for!