THREE new planets photographed in the sky!! nibiru? eris? sackloth?

reply to post by captiva


I don't know....have you looked on the InterWebz for other lens flare examples? I did...

Found this picture:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/818dada4d793.jpg[/atsimg]

Description says made with an iPhone4.

Here's the link to the (her?) blog:

mostlylisa.tumblr.com...

I see flares.

Bottom line - What this guy proposes as these being planets or even planetoids is proposturous. As stated earlier, the gravitational interruption caused by the proximity of another planet being this close to Earth to be rendered so clearly by a phone cam would be catastrophic...and we would have felt its effect in a much less subtle way than a few earthquakes/ hurricanes here and there.

Now three planets in our sky at the same time?

We wouldn't survive long enough to see them like this. The Earth's atmosphere would be stripped bare, along with our moon (or chunks of it, anyway), and solar winds would have swept Earth clean of every living thing long before we could take the culprits' mugshot with a befrigged iphone.

I mean wow. Just wow.

reply to post by weedwhacker


we dont know what was in that picture as its a still picture, we do not know how long they had been there or how long they remiained after the pic was taken....

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reply to post by weedwhacker


none of the lens flares in that photo even resemble the blue thing with the tail in the pic i provided.....

reply to post by captiva


thankyou....

second

Oh, come off it already! Another picture of large "objects", "planets", or whatever claimed to be in our inner solar system that no one in the world has seen through a telescope as opposed to a camera app on a cellphone?

Is it believable? Not even slightly. If it was true, there would be amateur astronomers all over the world talking about it, as well as a search for the "first" sighting recorded in order to name it. IF the professionals hadn't already done, which they would have years ago.

I know this comes as a shock to many people out there, but a real "good" camera for taking shots like this is not possible with any cellphone. What is needed is a telescope with a camera attached, or extremely good, long lenses and perfectly clear, black skies. To see a dark sky, I used to go to the local Amish community, and even those have light pollution now.

And "chemtrails" do not cover up anything, because they don't exist. They are contrails. They have always been contrails, and they always will be contrails. To make that claim, you would first have to prove "chemtrails" exist and are dense enough to cover something. Haven't seen that yet, and I choose to know the science rather than "believe" in a myth.

All these types of videos are just unlearned and unsubstantiated scaremongering. The claim about "chemtrails" being used to "cover" the coming "Nibiru" are so last year. They were funny then, and are funny now.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and the OP's conclusions are not even close to being "proof" of anything but lots of people need to learn lots of things.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Someone needs to look up the physics behind planetary and celestial motion. They do not and cannot go zipping around so they would be there one minute and not there the next.
This was discussed on threads about a "second sun", which was claimed as playing peek-a-boo with the earth and solar telescopes by ducking behind the sun.
Or the claims that such a thing is observable as "swaying" and shifting positions visibly.
Have you ever followed a comet? I have, Hale-Bopp. It remained in the sky for days, even though it was speeding along toward the sun. It moved day to day, but not visibly minute to minute (relative to position in the sky, not it's tail which was very cool to see ripple and change colors). Any claims otherwise are just stupid and show you don't even begin to know what you are talking about.

reply to post by stars15k


chemtrails dont exist? are u serious?? if your going to call the content of this post ill informed and stupid then dont reply with supidity.

chemtrails are very real, and have been proven to be real, even water/rain samples were taken to see what was falling out of these chemtrail clouds and were shown to contain barium as well as other toxic chemicals.

u had me for a moment...until u made that utterly stupid comment.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


"chemtrails" as hysterically hyped and falsely (as you just showed) claimed, do NOT exist.

Water/soil "contamination" doesn't come from something "sprayed" at over 30,000 feet, that gets carried by the jetstream winds, to far-flung destinations (and likely don't come down at all) but disperse, get diluted....eventually mixing in with other particulates, both natural and man-made...from EARTH-based activities, mostly. Factories, cars, trucks....it's called air pollution.

Mines, smelting operations, coal-fired power plants, etc, etc.

These so-called "chemtrails" are the product of our "InterWebz-era" and are a hoax, and based on NO credible science whatsoever. It is testament to the ignorance (of a few, hopefully) in the general population, on this planet...and is terribly tragic to see.

It IS evident, though, that this person on YouTube, who mistakes lens flares for "planets", lacks the proper groundings in science to realize just WHY that is so ridiculous.....and THOSE sorts of people are the ones who also believe in the "chemtrails" myth. They are woefully ignorant, and it continues to be sad, oh so sad, to see....since they NOW have the means to spread that ignorance virally....on the Web.... :shk:

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


The rain and ground water tests that show barium, believed by so many "chemtrailers" to be proof, are usually the results from the news report from KSLA from Shrevesport, LA. This report is known to be WRONG, even by the reporter. How do I know? I contacted the reporter myself. It's been debunked, and shows that people do not think critically about what they are seeing and hearing, and that some people need to learn to read science notation.

Rainwater samples don't mean a thing anyway. They can carry all kinds of pollution in them, mostly from ground based sources. You need to test the trail itself, and that has been done, and is being done many, many times. They have found a contrail contains jet exhaust only. Ever. There is no room for spraying equipment, tanks, or anything else inside a plane to spray anything. "Chemtrail" theory has not been proven, it's been questioned and debunked since the theory first came out, which was also the birth of the internet into homes. Coincidence? I think not.
I stand by my original post. You can't see chemical content of anything 6 miles away using just your eyes, so do not waste your time presenting YouTube videos claiming otherwise. I will accept only reports done by real experts, in relevent fields, using good method of sampling and testing, good use of controls and the negation of any possible contamination from sources other than a trail. It should also be peer-reviewed.
Show any "chemtrail" debunker that. We all look for it, all have seen it claimed to exist, and have never been provided with anything even close.
Anyway, this thread is about the claim of "THREE planets photographed....", not really about chemtrails. To claim "chemtrails" are covering up anything, they would have to be very dense, and very extensive, covering the earth. Haven't seen 100% planetary cloud cover yet. Have you?

reply to post by weedwhacker


collected RAIN WATER does show exactly what types of chemicals are being sprayed over our countries, i see contrails and chemtrails everyday out of my window and above my home, im not stupid that i cant tell the difference, i see contrails coming out of commercial planes...and i watch them flying through the sky and see the thin contrial dissapear behind it, then i see other aircrafts, spewing chemtrails and i watch as the chemtrail billows and billows until it looks like a cloud....im a 32 year old woman, i went to university for almost 5 years, im not stupid, nor am i blind, on the same day i see both contrails and chemtrails....THEY ARE REAL!!

and if your that delusional that u think chemtrails dont exist your either extremely stupid or a disinformant!

you may want to educate yourself...

www.educate-yourself.org...

also read this and it states that the chemtrail ops programme is run by the office of naval intellegence

www.nogw.com...

I would bet money that the OP here is none other than the guy who shot the video. Taking each and every alternate opinion much too personally if you ask me.
Pretending to be another random person who just happened to see this video and post a thread about it here. That's called lying.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


You must have what I've been calling "magic eyes" for about three years. You claim to see a difference in the chemical content of something so etherial as a cirrus cloud from miles away? And call others stupid?
Please explain yourself.
And it is NOT persistence. The only people who believe it's a matter of persistence are "chemtrailers". Everyone else knows that ice crystals in the atmosphere can persist for hours. They are called "clouds".
Unless you can prove that clouds do not persist more than a few minutes......???
So outside of persistence, and claims of having eyes like a spectrometer, you really should watch the attempts at insults.
And all debunkers love the "disinformer" claims. It makes us laugh.

Does somebody think you can see Eris with naked eyes, LOL. Its really small and far away. Magnitude is between 19-20. You need really expensive and big telescope to see it. Maybe if u own Hubble, you could see it xD

How come only one has seen this, giant objects in sky. I say Lens Flare or Photoshop

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder

....and if your that delusional that u think chemtrails dont exist your either extremely stupid or a disinformant!

NO, I'm not a disinformant. I am experienced, in AVIATION. I've been flying for just about 40 years now. 23+ at a major airline, so I know a wee bit about the commercial airplanes that are being "accused" of this.

Other pilots know that "chemtrails" are nonsense, as well. The science is unassailable....

AS TO the real topic, again....the science there is indisputable, too. There are NO planets close enough to Earth to be photographed by an iPhone! (of all things!) and appear that relative size....AND IF there were (by some incredible happenstance)??

It would be dominating every news story on the planet!! Would have been months/years ago....takes a LONG time for things like planets to move around, even IF (they aren't but IF) were on some highly eccentric elliptical orbit (like some comets). HOW LONG do comets, such as those on the types of eccentric elliptical orbits, appear to us? Months and months.

AND, usually, because they're so small, (compared to even a "dwarf" planet) they aren't visible until their corona, halo and "tail" show up...from heating, from the Sun, as they near.

reply to post by stars15k


yes who is carrying out these tests?? anyone on the government payroll by chance?

cmon wake up!!

aliminium, barium, ethylene dibromide which has been banned by the epa, as its extremely toxic is in these chemtrails!

no i didnt get the rainwater tests from that source...independent rain water tests carried out by scientists that are not on the government payroll!

if you want to believe that they arent spraying anything into our atmosphere thats fine...i believe they are...now im not saying that the purpose for them is to poison humanity..i believe that they are trying to build up our magnestosphere as it contains barium which is severly lacking in our magnestosphere which can protect us against perhaps an x class cme....BUT THEY ARE REAL....

reply to post by weedwhacker


how does you flying a plane make u an expert on chemtrails? u can fly a plane, but that doesnt make u an expert when it comes to chemtrails, whats in them, who is doing it and why its happening does it?

just u stick to your contrails and let the rest of us that have eyes worry about the chemtrails yeh? ok then

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


I'm afraid that being at university for 5 years does not contribute to having knowledge or being knowledgeable in this subject im afraid, i think you may have been watching too many Metallica Videos (See all nightmare long) there have been no verified accounts of chemtrails, there are people who state they can tell the difference, they are not exactly meteorologists, weather specialists etc.

What people assume to be chemtrails are simply asserting the characteristics and features of contrails responding differently in diverse conditions in terms of the sunlight, temperature, horizontal and vertical wind shear, and humidity levels present at the aircraft's altitude.

Weed is a pilot and so has more of a qualified opinion on this matter, you don't fly each day without seeing contrails, they come in all shapes and sizes and depending on aircraft performance, aircraft type, engine type, weather conditions and moisture content in the air.

Chemtrails are simply the latest fad in a long line of scaremongering, dont worry about this and just get on with your life, there are real things to worry about other that water / ice crystals in the sky.

Wee Mad

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Your sources are not anything like what I would accept. The later one even has a link to the video I was talking about. You do know that just because someone can write and post it to the internet doesn't mean it is based on fact, right?
Just because someone claims they are a scientist, doesn't mean they understand chemistry, meteorology, aviation science, physics, climatology, geology, or any other discipline that actually would include anything about the formation and contents of a trail in the sky. There is lots of bad science on the web, and the links in your sources use it.
There is lots of valuable information on the web, too. You just have to know how to find it. Try googling
"contrail studies -chemtrails". You will find 402,000 hits. Read them and see what good science is. Each paper will support or better quantify the knowledge from previous studies. Good science is repeatable, not the claims based on one test, done by a non-expert, and posted to the internet. There is a big difference between the works you will find and anything on a "chemtrail' site.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Link #1? What a load of tripe, ill-informed nonsense. "educate yourself" indeed!!

Link #2? More of the same.

The video of the KC-10??? it was a JOKE!! Intended to rile up the "chemtrailers" (and boy, has it ever!!)

Filmed by another KC-10 crewmember, behind (we can call it "in-trail"...or, trailing) and just above (in formation) with the one in the video. Airplanes (both, but we don't see the one that's doing the filming, of course) are flying through very thin cirrus clouds, and THAT is the effect you see....the condensations as the airplane flies through, and disturbs the clouds. (There is a thread on ATS about it......)

The YouTuber who played this practical joke on OTHER YouTubers came to ATS< with the same screenname. Explained it. Later, took down the video (but, it had already gone viral, so it remains everywhere, now).

Some nutcase in Italy (on YouTube) took that same video, and points to the trailing edge flap hinges, and calls them "spray nozzles"!!


You (and many, many others) have been had. P.T. Barnum didn't really say it, but it's attributed to him: "There's a sucker born every minute."

That same concept at work here (no offense, it fools lots of people). Just like "Miracle Weight Loss" formulas pitched on late-night TV fool millions.....among other crackpot products.