The Beginning of the End for Facebook

reply to post by davespanners


It's no big deal, just get an account.
You choose who you want to add, you can make yourself invisible to people if you don't want people to add you first, and you choose the information that goes on there.
You can just use it as a kind of RSS feed for updates on your friends/family news.

Right, but you also sacrifice privacy by allowing your personal information to be sold to marketing firms. It's the biggest scam of the century.

Thanks, and thanks for reading the thread.

Originally posted by WashingtonGrewHemp
I have come across several articles in the past couple days that relate to privacy issues concerning facebook. Here's the first: www.wtsp.com...

Debt collectors have begun to utilize facebook to embarrass people that owe by contacting their families and friends via the social networking site.

The other story is from today: latimesblogs.latimes.com...

Huntington Beach, California plans to harass people convicted of drunk driving on facebook. These stories aren't very far off from this: www.cnn.com...

So be careful on social networking sites. Did you realize that myspace is merging with facebook? Myspace users can now access their facebook accounts through myspace, which means unprecedented information consolidation.

Be prepared for the worst.

Why not just modify your privacy settings, or better yet, only allow friends access to your profile (not everyone or friends of friends) and 90% of your problems are solved. This is 2010, nothing is private any more

Interesting you would post it, here is another local news story similar to what you are talking about.

www.wxyz.com...

NOVI, Mich. (WXYZ) - A Facebook account featuring pictures of hundreds of scantily clad teenaged girls posted without the girls’ permission is registered to a man in the Middle East, according to police. The teens and their parents are outraged and feeling powerless.

No matter how many times you change your privacy settings, by clicking "I agree to the terms and conditions" you automatically forfeit any real privacy. All information you enter is gathered by gatekeepers who sell the information to marketing firms.

Thanks for posting the link. I was hoping more stories would emerge. I predict we'll be seeing more and more similar stories.

Originally posted by PS3Geek
I have had facebook before and then just deleted my accounts and yes it works to delete your accounts just google it , if facebook deleted my account i wouldn't have cared ...

It will appear in google as a cached page for about a month. The page is gone from FaceBook's website.

Personally, I find it insane, the amount of time and concern my friends pay to facebook. I've never had an account and never will.

Plus, I knew it was over when my grandparents joined nothing is cool when grammy is a member

edit. I recently saw that facebook was starting their own email type service, now with all the privacy concerns and Zuckerberg's own admissions on how he views privacy, why would anyone allow them even more access to the details of your personal life.

This thread is classic fear mongering. If you knew how to use the privacy settings in facebook you would understand how foolish you sound. Debt collectors can't find you on fb if you decide not to be found.

And where does it say fb is selling my info? All info collected and sold is by third party software because some people don't understand the privacy controls.

facebook does not share your information with advertisers without your consent...prove me wrong!!!

Privacy on facebook

Have you heard what Zuckerberg's beliefs about privacy are? He thinks there will be a time when it won't exist. Also, it is naive to think that there aren't gatekeepers at information hubs. Everything you type into the internet is recorded. I'm not fear-mongering, the articles speak for themselves. The fact is that this is happening as we speak.

It is hilarious. Fear from privacy.

What info do I give out willingly? Few photos, name, location and people I know. On twitter - I sometimes write what I do or what I like, express my opinion. I never write anything that I don't want others to know. No one has to be a spy to know such things. If someone met me I wouldn't hide my face, I wouldn't hide my name. I'd probably talk with that person about people we know to try and find some friends that we maybe have in common.

What info can TPTB get from even if I don't want that. They can listen my phone conversations. They can watch me through satellite cameras and CCTV. They can hack my computer if it's connected to Internet and steal all documents, photos and info. They can even turn on my web cam and watch me, my room. Also they can hire people that follow me and watch what I'm doing and report them if they find me as "interesting" individual. They can insert bugs in my house.

So the question is are social networks so dangerous?

No. Well maybe they are if you are planning some revolution, strikes or something like that and sharing that idea over the web. But who is that stupid?

reply to post by AnteBellum


My mate got banned too, but that was for posting cake farts and some vomit porn to his profile.
I recomend trying it if you want to delete your facebook, its a lot quicker than waiting two weeks, like you have to do if you do it the normal way.

i regularly get banned from Myspace and Facebook because i befreind girls. The thing is, they are all 18 years plus. but its just girls and so they assume im a peado of sex offender. it really annoys me because i actually have every right to target people of legal age, just because im 41 years old they seem to imagine there sould be some inherent morality. im single and none of the girls have to be my pal.

years ago i would have loads of conversations, the girls love attention, but now NOTHING. Im certain that my account has been 'modified' and that im in some sort of automatic mode where im not in contact with real people.

i have a face account and never really use it, but the other week tried to and started befreinding girls and after 20 or so requests my account was automatically suspended for 2 days because my requests were considered spam. As such, its impossible for me to make friends because it takes 10 requests to get 1 friends, or worse. As such, Facebook has by default made it impossible for me to make friends with my chosen demographic, 'FERTILE FEMALES'

Between Myspace and Facebook they have a huge control over social mobility. Thus Facebooks lack of a search facility to filter, age, sex, ethnicity and body type make it impossible to actually search and both sites apparent 'ISOLATION' techniques, ie removing people like me from the real thing which results in no actual communication, means they can effectivly ostracise people from the world.

I see this as like a pub selling non alcoholic drinks ONLY TO ME, so whilst everyone else is getting drunk, im wondering why the beer doesnt seem to work. Its immoral. If they are goinf to ban me from entering the pub, they should do so, and then i would have legal recourse, but they dont have a legal reason, they cant. Discrimination against me is as morally right as discrimination against a black person. But instead, they limit my account.

The thing is, today, it seems normal, but i remember years ago when i had say 500-1000 friends, that if i sent a bulletin or posted a message i would get a responce. i would get into chats with girls, it was great, and then suddenly, paff!!! SILENCE, nothing.

Myspace is technically far better than facebook but in practice they are both worthless.

For what its worth i beleive ATS is kust another NSA covert operation. 90% of what i read here is 'leading' manipulative work designed to 'provoke' and channel rather than appear like free speach. In fact i get banned from most forums, mainly because i constantly decree that the internet is heavily policed which is essentally illegal. That should be the biggest conspiracy ever, but its not mentioned much, not even here? I wonder why? oh yeah, its run by the NSA et al who would rather you focussed on tradtional conspiracies like fools bashing your heads against a wall rather than issues that would proove intersting all round.

The beginning of the end ? Hardly.

Of the millions who use it only a small fraction, not enough to make difference, actually give a crap about privacy or the terms and conditions.

People willingly give up their information and data everyday in many ways. Have a loyalty card to a big supermarket chain? They know sooo much about you.

It's not going away, because the vast majority of people don't care.

reply to post by depressed67


Yeah, that's kinda creepy..


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Back to the OP, the trick to facebook is to only add people you know, set everything to friends only, assume everything you post is visible to the entire world, and not post anything you wouldn't want to see about yourself on the news. Can't harass me if they can't see anything about me or who my friends are.

Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by depressed67

 

Yeah, that's kinda creepy..


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Back to the OP, the trick to facebook is to only add people you know, set everything to friends only, assume everything you post is visible to the entire world, and not post anything you wouldn't want to see about yourself on the news. Can't harass me if they can't see anything about me or who my friends are.

really? in your opinion.

i wont spout of a list of things i find creepy, all of which are legal. many of which other people, maybe including you, do.

reply to post by Merigold


I actually view the recent surge of privacy concerns, especially the collection companies contacting family and friends of debtors, as a serious warning sign that Facebook's days are truly numbered. Only time will tell, but I envision a future positively. Eventually people will wake up, realizing the implications of Zuckerberg's appalling beliefs about privacy.

The cops here in my city are posting mugshots of traffic offenders and their vehicle no plates on Face book, and have asked local citizens if they photograph offenders they can also post it on the site "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING"

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp

Eventually people will wake up

They won't. They are way too comfortable running on the treadmill of "success" that never goes anywhere.

They will never wake up. We will be telling our great grand kids how we were around in the beginning of the social media movement.