Ron Paul - The American People have become Submissive. Enough is Enough.

Originally posted by crudos
Where was Ron Paul when Bush and Cheney were pushing through the TSA, Homeland Security and other potential rights infringing programs and bills? All the people who worship at the altar of Paul, what took you so long to get to the party? He is saying nothing new that hasn't been espoused for the last 50 years. Action needed to happen long ago, instead of only now trying to bail water from an even bigger hole in the lifeboat.

He was there loudly rebuking these policies. Perhaps, you had your head buried in the sand.

Originally posted by Pha3drus

Originally posted by crudos
Where was Ron Paul when Bush and Cheney were pushing through the TSA, Homeland Security and other potential rights infringing programs and bills? All the people who worship at the altar of Paul, what took you so long to get to the party? He is saying nothing new that hasn't been espoused for the last 50 years. Action needed to happen long ago, instead of only now trying to bail water from an even bigger hole in the lifeboat.

He was there loudly rebuking these policies. Perhaps, you had your head buried in the sand.

Nope, hardly heard a peep from him during the dark years of Bush the Second. Just like MOST of the rest of the followers of Lord Paul

I would worry less abouth the pornagraphic nature of the images and more concerned about the radiation these things give off is it also true they have mobile scanners that the can set up at road blocks.
I have heard about most of this stuff from the alex jones show, im not sure what peoples opinion of him is here.
Havent witnessed it my self as im in the UK.
peace

reply to post by crudos


Better late than never. Most people were too complacent back in the day and didn't think to .... well think.
Atleast now, the stuff he's been saying for years is finally getting some sort of attention, and I believe a great deal of it can be attributed to the Internet.

Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
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Better late than never. Most people were too complacent back in the day and didn't think to .... well think.
Atleast now, the stuff he's been saying for years is finally getting some sort of attention, and I believe a great deal of it can be attributed to the Internet.

I actually agree with you Majestic Lumen about more people getting involved. But what rankles me is the superior and smug attitudes displayed by SOME the newcomers and their organizations (ie. Tea Party). Oh well, such is life, the fight continues.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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This entire fiasco involving scanners at airports are not only a violation of privacy, but are merely a show to try to convince Americans that they are keeping ahead of the terrorists.

And this is really the key. Our planes are considered hardened targets. There can not be another 9-11 style attack simply because of the more secure cockpit doors and increased passenger vigilance. Sure someone could blow up a plane in flight, but even the most Draconian measures can stop a smart and resourceful team of lunatics from doing so.

This is just the next phase of the experiment. If they confirm their hypothesis that they can do anything they want in the name of airline "security", they will deploy the next false flag attack to spark fear and subservience to bring these scanners to new venues. My theory is that the controls will be placed in the following venues in roughly this order (with false flag attacks or "Narrowly Averted" attacks to correspond with each sector): Public Transit, Sporting Events, Retail Centers.

Retail centers will be the last because that will put this kind of invasiveness into just the open public as the focus shifts from malls and big box stores to "shopping districts" such as Fifth Avenue and Times Square.

You'll note, however, that I said IF they confirm their hypothesis. Things are going to be very interesting next week. I'm seeing huge delays, heightened tensions, severe stress. I can envision of PTSD case (not necessarily military, could be sexual assault) snapping and taking out an overly grabby TSA agent, spark in the powder keg.

I hate to say it, but if the travel week goes smoothly with these measures in place, it is a poor sign on the state of the citizenry.

I tend to enjoy getting my dose of ATS opinions and then coming along and finding a speech by Ron.


It's interesting that he always seems to have the opinion that is expressed on these boards. It's almost as if he lurks here for true perspective, reads what matters and takes it onto a larger scale. Not only the same issues but he views it the same way as well. It's almost too convenient he, like others have mentioned, sounds like an actual citizen worried about everyone in the USA. Weird!

This entire fiasco involving scanners at airports are not only a violation of privacy, but are merely a show to try to convince Americans that they are keeping ahead of the terrorists.

Oh, and yeah, we're definitely keeping ahead of the terrorists... with their melee weapons and homemade bombs... yeah, definitely need radiation and groping to muscle them out!

reply to post by Pha3drus


Nebraska senator Johanns was labeled a security threat.
omaha.com...-loo ks-mighty-suspicious

reply to post by crudos


You didn't hear from him because the media didn't cover him. Youtube hasn't even been around that long, alternative media just started to get huge in the last few years. Things have changed since the dark days of George Bush.

Paul voted against the patriot act and all the wars btw, among other things.

Pilots should be armed with tazer guns. I disagree when he says there should be a firearm in the cockpit, because in worse case scenario, that bullet makes a hole in the fuselage, it's pretty much beans and gravy from there.

But I couldn't agree more with Ron Paul. I hope he runs for president 2012, surely will have my vote.

reply to post by Pha3drus


In time, history will reward the voices of reason and eviscerate the tyrants who did all they could to lead the masses astray.

reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt


Everytime I hear a news piece on increased security measures done in the name of keeping us safe, I am reminded of this verse:

While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by Bonified Ween
It's called Fluoride

What's the bet France and Greece isn't fluoridated?

Bet their Governments regret that...

Once the EU have enough powers they'll be able to get the whole of Europe fluoridated in one swoop, like what they're doing with CODEX

Ron Paul for President in 2012! I'll vote for him even after he dies, greatest politician in history. It's funny, the Neocons (Republicans) want strong security and invasion of privacy but they blame the Democrats for wanting the gov't to protect us and baby us.

Republicans are a joke.

Nice, but I'm afraid too little too late and Ron Paul does not go far enough.

Personally, I consider those who support the TSA no different than the NAZI sympathizers who supported the relocation of jews to the death camps.

The TSA has taken a crap on our civil rights and I consider them the enemy of the people, for they only create the illusion of protection while themselves steal the most precious of what needs protecting.

Terrorists? The only terrorists I see are the TSA.

Though I would like to see a radical change in the amount of people flying so, change would occur quickly, I'm afraid the TSA's new policies will just slowly bleed the airlines & related industries to help keep the U.S. economy in the dumps for a longer period of time.

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If you look at his voting record... He voted against the war in Iraq, against the Patriot Act and many other destructive actions by congress. He's not just a "No Man" though. He has also submitted many bills that could have done much to solve some of our problems. To bad the rest of congress is bought and paid for.

reply to post by crudos


Ahh, yes I think I know what you mean. Seems as if people that are just jumping on don't have the same honesty and innocense more or less.

I believe, the more momentum the honest movement gets, we should make sure it stays honest and righteous. It is our duty to call out anyone who goes against the people's best interest. It's up to us to diplomatically take back our country from the hands of the elite whose only interest is money and the enslavement and pacifying of the people. We have a voice, it's long been time we spread the message and put our voice to use.

We shall placate the arrogance, the superior and smug attitudes of any who wishes to associate themselves with a just cause to truly make a change for the better on behalf of the people. That among other things is what we should do I think.

We are all in this together. Our lives are affected as one.

Originally posted by crudos

Originally posted by Pha3drus

Originally posted by crudos
Where was Ron Paul when Bush and Cheney were pushing through the TSA, Homeland Security and other potential rights infringing programs and bills? All the people who worship at the altar of Paul, what took you so long to get to the party? He is saying nothing new that hasn't been espoused for the last 50 years. Action needed to happen long ago, instead of only now trying to bail water from an even bigger hole in the lifeboat.

He was there loudly rebuking these policies. Perhaps, you had your head buried in the sand.

Nope, hardly heard a peep from him during the dark years of Bush the Second. Just like MOST of the rest of the followers of Lord Paul

I would recommend you look at his voting record and his speeches on the floor of the House during the Bush years. He's been saying it all along, and the only reason he is covered more now is because of the massive following he gained during his election campaign in 08. That debate opened a lot of eyes about what our country was really up to, and forced the MSM to give Ron some attention.

Here are some links to his archives: Lew Rockwell This next one is from house.gov There are a lot of speeches to be found all the way back to 2000 where Ron Paul criticized Bush and his administration's policies.

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst


Not all of us Ronny, .....

... And where there's a spark, .... there's gonna be a fire.

Yes all of us (I include myself even though I am from the UK) because you will do nothing to stop the corruption and unfair treatment other than post a daft comment on a forum (just like me) pretending that you are going to spark into a fire (metaphorically I hope).

How will that post on a forum effect change? It won't and here lies the problem.

All of us need to do something about it together. Oragnised, efficient and targeted.

I am NOT inciting any form of violence but we need to unite to oust corruption.

reply to post by george_gaz


Thats what game theory did, it made sure people will see everyone else as enemies.

The ptb are very clever in how they control.