To China and the world - We do NOT apologize

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
you are only trying to mask what your rich and wealthy have done to this world, or you are believing their lies... You want to talk unity we represent the true unity of races and freedom, your idea is that of the slave mentality.
free your mind !

IF this were true, you're personification of: Lead by example is piss poor.
Why not take the time to tell this poster exactly HOW to free his mind.

What should he see that a free mind such are yourself should intuitively know?
Can you teach us your Cosmic ways of life?

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
what China needs is Independence... Take a look at the other nations who have achieved this and their patriotism is the cry of their individuality.

The Declaration of America's Independence was nothing more than a brokered deal
that on one hand allowed the Kind to withdraw to his homeland while the
Americans (who knew they weren't free) would pay the King monies for the
colonisation of his subjects to build a new nation: on HIS land.

A subject is one who owes the (permanent) allegiance (not to the flag) but to the Kind of England.
You know little about American History and your perpetual ramblings of "Patriotism" aren't
accurately portraying the truth.

Originally posted by mydarkpassenger


If there had not have been an America, most of the world would be in death camps or labor camps.

Radical Muslims wouldn't exist.
China wouldn't be a threat.
America created both of those problems with it's money going to those people.

The official language of the United States will be Spanish in 2020. Due to the Latino's having the majority.

I would rather of spoke German or Japanese. The only reason our official language will be Spanish in 2020 is because Congress let +45 million illegal immigrants from Mexico/Central America invade us....plus Obama gave legal citizenship last year to +1 million mainly Latino's.

We would have been better off under Nazi Germany. Atleast the Federal Reserve wouldn't have existed and maybe we'd be able to own our homes in America.

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact


Yeah man.
I dont know much about civil war, but i think it might take quite a shift for the Chinese populace to completely rebel. They are incredibly repressed culturally and in terms of the average Chinese persons need to start a revolution, there is no possibility. In my opinion the Chinese populace are not ready, not yet aware of the reasons for revolution. I mean the first Russian revolution was in 1905, took 12 years for anything to happen. If the conditions are not right, nothing can happen, and in china's case, it is my opinion that it will not, even if the public did find out certain ugly truths, at least not for a very long time.

The fact is that the Chinese guv have their people pretty much on lock down, the censorship etc, plus incredibly extensive measures to subdue their people and maintain a progressive order.

I really can't believe this thread has so many flags though, the entire concept seems to me to be very short sighted and dare i say, ignorant. No offense directed at the OP, but i do believe this.

reply to post by mwood


Hurricane Katrina doesn't support this opinion. They left the poor folks down there to rot, for months. I hate to sound confrontational, but blind patriotism is dangerous. I love the US, although I think this kind of blindness is one of the reasons people scorn the US. You have most likely never left the states, and if you have that is great, really.
Try not to be so blinded when it comes to your personal foreign policy, it may come off as vulgar.
Cheers mate.

Originally posted by mwood
That's like apologizing to your neighbor for not mowing your yard for 2 weeks and it looks a little shabby when they have a meth lab and 6 cars in their yard up on blocks and knee deep grass.

So, America apologising to China would be sarcasm? Or perhaps reverse psychology? Are international diplomatic relations mind wars?

Originally posted by Pervius
Radical Muslims wouldn't exist.

Muslims have been at war with each other since the 600's. Considering we weren't around then, it's not our responsibility or our fault.

China wouldn't be a threat.

China and Tibet have been at war off and on since the 600's. China has been a threat to at least one other country off and on since then, and a threat to their own people on quite a few occasions. None of that has been our responsibility or our fault.

America created both of those problems with it's money going to those people.

The US declared independence from England in 1776, a full 1100 years after the beginnings of all of that. Then again, I forgot that the US is responsible for everything that's ever gone wrong in the history of the planet going back to, and including, the fall of the dinosaurs. Please, for the love of all that's holy, learn some history...

We would have been better off under Nazi Germany.

Yes, because government sanctioned genocide of our own population would make this world a much better place.

The OP wouldnt exist if he wasnt an obvious troll. The whole purpose of this thread is not of debate, but boredom. What better way to end his boredom by starting a thread that will surely get peoples blood flowing. I am an american and you do NOT speak for America. Typical American? Those that are in other countries spewing this nonsense obviously have never been here and are generalizing on a few ignorant "patriots". Evil is evil whether it be here in the states, or anywhere else in the world. What would make me proud as an American citizen would be that we stop policing the world and start bettering the world. Stop sending troops into every country that doesnt wanna play the game that is run by bankers, and start sending teachers. Angry men are angry for a reason. Find out what they are angry for and do what you can to make them happy. Share. Too many people are greedy and dont wanna share. Im straying away from the topic at hand, so I will end it here.

double post

(The guy above me's initials are OP)
Well, after I left on page 5, it seems this thread has gone down in the sewers
This thread has found it's way to be a mix of
-Wakened People
-Unwakened People
-Ignorant People
-Children under the age of 13
-White Supremacists
-Patriotic Americans

In all essence, 80% of this thread has been inhabited by Idiots
It was scary I tell you.

First, people are standing up for america, which is 90% wrong because the same problems that put you in tje economic situation you, and millions of others in other countries today, is caused by.......YOU GUESSED IT!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Government - which runs America.
The Federal Bank - which runs the government (kind of obvious it has been proven that the government owes the bank)
and.........The various Fortune 500 Multimillionaires that are blamed to be devil worshippers, only because it seems because they would do anything for cash, it is like they have no soul.

Second, Do not act like America is the safest and greatest in the world. I swear It is pure Ignorant people like that this site is for. Go up in the Search box, and begin your journey. America.... Boy! I acn't stop laughing!!!!!!!!! Okay, Americanas, this is how much cash was wasted since 2001 by America:
$1,110,501,093,560

Yes, 1 trillion moolas have been wasted on war. All this because we want Oil, which was the most ineffecient source of power since the Ford car, and before! These same 'Patriotic Americans' probably don't know about Free Energy, Global Warming, or even Genetic enhancement of crops ( which I expect 1 person to appear saying that "Well that's not bad at all, how is that bad?")

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so in other words you have no convictions... that is inhuman !

"you are a slave Neo"

27 page thread about an apology that has never been asked from anyone by China...and it's nothing but a patriotic cycle jerk by some over-sensitive patriots who believe they're better than the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with patriotism, but blind patriotism is stupid. There's plenty of countries with a better economy, less unemployment, better education, and even more democracy.

Does that make the US bad? Does it make China super? Of course not, but this blind patriotism is silly and makes people look like complete idiots.

Originally posted by mr10k:
In all essence, 80% of this thread has been inhabited by Idiots

uh dude you can't be doing that... stealing someone else's troll, it's against the rules in a troll fest.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
27 page thread about an apology that has never been asked from anyone by China...and it's nothing but a patriotic cycle jerk by some over-sensitive patriots who believe they're better than the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with patriotism, but blind patriotism is stupid. There's plenty of countries with a better economy, less unemployment, better education, and even more democracy.

Does that make the US bad? Does it make China super? Of course not, but this blind patriotism is silly and makes people look like complete idiots.

I tell you what this is, it's the home of the brave... you come in here trying to dis people and point fingers while patriots stand idly by, I don't think so... We are not Great Britain or some subdued culture believing some Gaia fantasy the media is selling us.

You want to call US racist too then you got one ! there is no denying the narrow minded unenlightened people which the liberal agenda adheres.

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by MrXYZ
27 page thread about an apology that has never been asked from anyone by China...and it's nothing but a patriotic cycle jerk by some over-sensitive patriots who believe they're better than the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with patriotism, but blind patriotism is stupid. There's plenty of countries with a better economy, less unemployment, better education, and even more democracy.

Does that make the US bad? Does it make China super? Of course not, but this blind patriotism is silly and makes people look like complete idiots.

I tell you what this is, it's the home of the brave... you come in here trying to dis people and point fingers while patriots stand idly by, I don't think so... We are not Great Britain or some subdued culture believing some Gaia fantasy the media is selling us.

You want to call US racist too then you got one ! there is no denying the narrow minded unenlightened people which the liberal agenda adheres.

Where did I diss the US? I was ranting about blind patriotism and the fact that the entire thread was created on the premise that China asked for an apology...something they didn't do.

You obviously believe that "your" country is the best...and you have the right to do so. Doesn't change the fact that many countries are better when it comes to education, democracy, economy, and a ton of other factors. Stating that isn't dissing the US, it's stating facts! That doesn't make the US bad, but it highlights how blind patriotism makes people look like fools.

Originally posted by sir_slide I really can't believe this thread has so many flags though

I am quite lost in this place but I am sure over time I will get how it works... Are you sure this site is not owned by Canadian's ? I am suspecting it already...

One thing though can someone explain the 'Flag' button to me... I know to star a posters post is that you are in agreement but is a Flag a bad thing like flagging a topic for removal ?

thanks...

Originally posted by Chinesis -Can you teach us your Cosmic ways of life?

my user name is a direct quote from Carl Sagan in his series Cosmos... it is a good series to begin education for yourself, I recommend it.

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Im under the impression that you give a flag to something credible and worthwhile so other members can scan the many threads and see what's good.

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by Chinesis -Can you teach us your Cosmic ways of life?

my user name is a direct quote from Carl Sagan in his series Cosmos... it is a good series to begin education for yourself, I recommend it.

I was trying to say the same thing to you, "educate yourself", but i didnt actually say the word "educate" to make myself sound somehow "greater".

But i bet you didnt read Robert Temple's or Chomsky's for that matter since the likes of you dont really care about anything that doesnt suit your "superiority complex".

Alot of the memebers on ATS do remind me of Stormfront. I hope this is not too uncomfortable a claim since you yourself admited to be a racist.

P.S. Using "patriotism" or other excuses to advocate your own agenda.

Its funny when members of One Nation party protested China for violating Tibetan and human rights on streets of Sydney in 2008, makes one wonder why they dont protest for their own Aboriginal people who suffer much worse but instead the One Nation is advocating the opposite towards "the first Australians".

So Why they would jump onto the "anti-China" wagon if they dont really care about Non-white's rights? Because they are far-right white supermacists who dont like immigrants, since most of the recently arrived Non-white immigrants in Australia are from China, they find themselves a good reason to raise the "anti-China" flag.

And thats precisely why the former Cuban leader Fidel castro, when commented on the ferocious "anti-China" trend displayed in the West in 2008, he said its the "yellow peril" again, but manifested itself in a seemingly noble cause. (Which would explain another funny scene, i.e some Americans who protested for Tibet couldnt even find Tibet on map.)

like Darfur? how about read William Engdahl's Darfur? It’s the Oil, Stupid… www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net... , and Tibet and Human Rights? read Michel Chossudovsky's China and America: The Tibet Human Rights PsyOp , www.globalresearch.ca... , and Western Media Fabrications regarding the Tibet Riots www.globalresearch.ca.... Also helpful in understanding the "Tibet" issue, is Dr. Michael Parenti's Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth www.globalresearch.ca...

So for the track record, how is it helpful for improving human-rights when you have America's CIA involved which act only in the interest of America?

But dont blame ordinary Americans because they are constantly barraged by propaganda, its so intense even scholar like Noam Chomsky was victimized as he too once believed Iraq was a threat to America.

Instead of "God bless America", it should be "God help America" nowadays, granted that "God" really act for the welfare of entire human of this planet.

reply to post by sunsky


I formulate my own opinions with my own research, thank you but I only got as far as your first sentence, so you can see how seriously I am taking you.

I already know how you formed your opinions, we're way beyond that now...