Bright Star - Maitreya - UFO Video & Photos

Originally posted by solipsism

sirius is one of the easist stars to locate via it's position to orion's belt. I can see sirius and this object at the same time albeit they're in different parts of the sky. But it is not sirius, I can't vouch for sightings other people have made. But I know with 100% certainty that it's not.

I was refering to what Iamonlyhuman described in his post, not what you saw I don't know what you saw, are you familiar with the software Stellarium? Have you tried using it to determine which celestial object the one you saw might be according to the software? Sorry if you've already done this and wrote about it, I could have missed it

Im not convinced that its jupiter, im in the north east of england, my house faces south and ive been obsessed with jupiter for the past couple of months. Once the moon becomes visible from the east, jupiter appears at about the moons 4 oclock position, then as the moon swings by during the course of the night jupiter ends up in about the moons 9 oclock position, as the early hours come jupiter remains in that position but will move further away from the moon until they both eventually fade with daylight coming. I may be slightly off with positions but thats the easiest way to describe what ive been observing, anyway, my point is that if this was jupiter the moon would almost definately be visible in most if not all of the pics/vids posted.

Use a compass if necessary to give a better idea on this 'stars' position in the sky, it will just help other people locate what your looking at, can you locate it using stellarium yet?. Im not doubting your observational skills im just intrigued to find out what your seeing.

Originally posted by ch1n1t0

Originally posted by solipsism

sirius is one of the easist stars to locate via it's position to orion's belt. I can see sirius and this object at the same time albeit they're in different parts of the sky. But it is not sirius, I can't vouch for sightings other people have made. But I know with 100% certainty that it's not.

I was refering to what Iamonlyhuman described in his post, not what you saw

I don't know what you saw, are you familiar with the software Stellarium? Have you tried using it to determine which celestial object the one you saw might be according to the software? Sorry if you've already done this and wrote about it, I could have missed it

Yes I have used Stellarium and i still maintain it's not Jupiter

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Im not convinced that its jupiter, im in the north east of england, my house faces south and ive been obsessed with jupiter for the past couple of months. Once the moon becomes visible from the east, jupiter appears at about the moons 4 oclock position, then as the moon swings by during the course of the night jupiter ends up in about the moons 9 oclock position, as the early hours come jupiter remains in that position but will move further away from the moon until they both eventually fade with daylight coming. I may be slightly off with positions but thats the easiest way to describe what ive been observing, anyway, my point is that if this was jupiter the moon would almost definately be visible in most if not all of the pics/vids posted.

Use a compass if necessary to give a better idea on this 'stars' position in the sky, it will just help other people locate what your looking at, can you locate it using stellarium yet?. Im not doubting your observational skills im just intrigued to find out what your seeing.

Going by how you describe the location of Jupiter, it's not Jupiter, I could see Jupiter tonight at the moon's 4 o'clock position it was clearly visible and much smaller than this object and closer to the moon also. Jupiter looked the normal size and was behaving normally and nothing like this other object behaves. I wish I could offer more scientific evidence, but it's not within my means to do so.

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Can you see 'it' now, if so, can you give a rough location.

I'll just add to this point that when I first see this object in the evening it's quite a distance from the moon on my left of vision and to the moon's right. Jupiter is on my right of vision and to the moon's left. As the night goes on, it seems to get closer to the moon. Last night both this object and Jupiter were visible at the same time in my humble opinion.

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
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Can you see 'it' now, if so, can you give a rough location.

i can't unfortunately as it's too cloudy.

Understood, thanks for the explanation. I for one am very very anxious to believe, but it will take some serious evidence to sway me. I am on the side of anyone honestly seeking the truth.

It is a clear sky here in southern US tonight. Do you see the object now? If so, can you locate it near a constellation recognizable to you? I am seeing Jupiter now just to the SE of the moon, less than a thumb's width from it. Is your object visible at this time?

Ooops, where are you located?

ETA: ok cloudy I saw your last post.
How about tracking it next few nights giving proximity to moon or constellation, and I can follow here. If I can't see it, then not a star, something in your sky. But will help narrow down possibilities. Won't rule out satellite, I'm afraid.

Pesky clouds

I can clearly locate sirius now its in a SSE position, not too many clouds here at the minute. I wouldve maybe been able to locate your object using that as a reference point.

Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
Understood, thanks for the explanation. I for one am very very anxious to believe, but it will take some serious evidence to sway me. I am on the side of anyone honestly seeking the truth.

It is a clear sky here in southern US tonight. Do you see the object now? If so, can you locate it near a constellation recognizable to you? I am seeing Jupiter now just to the SE of the moon, less than a thumb's width from it. Is your object visible at this time?

Ooops, where are you located?

ETA: ok cloudy I saw your last post.
How about tracking it next few nights giving proximity to moon or constellation, and I can follow here. If I can't see it, then not a star, something in your sky. But will help narrow down possibilities. Won't rule out satellite, I'm afraid.

edit on 16-11-2010 by Cole DeSteele because: late post

It's too cloudy here at the minute unfortunately but i can say with certainty that this object is never within a thumb's width of the moon. I could clearly see Jupiter earlier on this evening, it was much smaller and much closer to the moon that this object gets.

If I had to use a measurement like that then I would say that it's the length of 2 buses to the moon's right (my left) when it starts out. When I look at the moon, Jupiter starts out to the moon's left and my right.

I'll try and get some reference points the next time it is visible.

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What time zone are you in? I'm in CST. Note the time when you first see it, and it's proximity to the moon if possible next couple of nights. Jupiter and moon phase should be good ref points if still where you've seen it before.

Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
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What time zone are you in? I'm in CST. Note the time when you first see it, and it's proximity to the moon if possible next couple of nights. Jupiter and moon phase should be good ref points if still where you've seen it before.

I live in the UK

Originally posted by solipsism
I took these photographs and video footage of the same phenomena, on the same night in Glasgow Scotland (14th November 2010)

A few points first;

1. It's definitely not Venus
2. It's definitely not Sirius (Sirius is easy to locate)
3. It's in the same spot all the time so isn't another planet from our solar system
4. It moves and changes colour
5. It's not Acturus either

Debunkers are welcome but I've been watching this thing for almost a year now every night

Video link below.

I havent done a complete read of this thread but where exactly is the location of this object, you give no idea as to where it is in relation to your location, such as angle off the horizon, nearby constellations or planets, cardinal direction etc. If this has been static for over a year you should be able to give us an exact cardinal direction and elevation for this, not some oh its 90 degrees left of Sirus (as you mention bellow, after all Sirus moves slightly every day, and its different depending on where you live on the globe).

The whole problem is, is if this was a star say Maitreya, as in located far out into space then everyone should be able to see it, heck even us down here in the southern hemisphere since we can see large portions of the sky you can, and ive noticed nothing different recently or over the last year. If we cant see it here then it must be damn close, so close infact its impossible to be a star, more like something no bigger than the ISS (i said bigger than, not that it was the ISS)... or a geosynchronous satellite as someone else mentioned.

Hmm just read this about geosynchronous satellites on Wiki...

If a geosynchronous satellite's orbit is not exactly aligned with the equator, the orbit is known as an inclined orbit. It will appear (when viewed by someone on the ground) to oscillate daily around a fixed point. As the angle between the orbit and the equator decreases, the magnitude of this oscillation becomes smaller; when the orbit lies entirely over the equator, the satellite remains stationary relative to the Earth's surface – it is said to be geostationary.

That would explain your same location, different position experience with this object. (Hmm maybe not since you mention it moving over a shorter time frame that the above would allow, which id then reiterate Phages comment about the camera movement in your vid)

I didnt think id end up like this but im beginning to get real cheesed at posters who more or less say "dont debunk me, I know what this is and I aint gonna discuss anything that could contradict what that is, im right your all wrong"... its like being in a religious debate and saying "how do you know this" and getting, "Faith" as a reply... faith proves nothing, but its impossible to argue against... completely infuriating, they dont want real help in understanding what they saw, they just want acknowledgment and praise for finding something that to them is 'special'... doesnt help when you have people who then egg them on

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Pesky clouds

I can clearly locate sirius now its in a SSE position, not too many clouds here at the minute. I wouldve maybe been able to locate your object using that as a reference point.

At around 6am 3 days ago I would say it was roughly 90 degrees to our left of Sirius.

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In the meantime, this may help you rule out satellites:
www.dartcom.co.uk...

CDS


ETA: maybe not. whoops. misleading title of page. Sorry



ETAII: this may at least give you a direction to locate known birds in your area. Currently set to locate Eurobird 9A. There is a list of names of known UK comm sats found on the first link above.

www.sat-direction.com...

Originally posted by BigfootNZ

Originally posted by solipsism
I took these photographs and video footage of the same phenomena, on the same night in Glasgow Scotland (14th November 2010)

A few points first;

1. It's definitely not Venus
2. It's definitely not Sirius (Sirius is easy to locate)
3. It's in the same spot all the time so isn't another planet from our solar system
4. It moves and changes colour
5. It's not Acturus either

Debunkers are welcome but I've been watching this thing for almost a year now every night

Video link below.

I havent done a complete read of this thread but where exactly is the location of this object, you give no idea as to where it is in relation to your location, such as angle off the horizon, nearby constellations or planets, cardinal direction etc.

The whole problem is, is if this was a star say Maitreya, as in located far out into space then everyone should be able to see it, heck even us down here in the southern hemisphere since we can see large portions of the sky you can, and ive noticed nothing different recently or over the last year. If we cant see it here then it must be damn close, so close infact its impossible to be a star, more like something no bigger than the ISS (i said bigger than, not that it was the ISS)... or a geosynchronous satellite as someone else mentioned.

Hmm just read this about geosynchronous satellites on Wiki...

If a geosynchronous satellite's orbit is not exactly aligned with the equator, the orbit is known as an inclined orbit. It will appear (when viewed by someone on the ground) to oscillate daily around a fixed point. As the angle between the orbit and the equator decreases, the magnitude of this oscillation becomes smaller; when the orbit lies entirely over the equator, the satellite remains stationary relative to the Earth's surface – it is said to be geostationary.

That would explain your same location, different position experience with this object.

I didnt think id end up like this but im beginning to get real cheesed at posters who more or less say "dont debunk me, I know what this is and I aint gonna discuss anything that could contradict what that is, im right your all wrong"... its like being in a religious debate and saying "how do you know this" and getting, "Faith" as a reply... faith proves nothing, but its impossible to argue against... completely infuriating, they dont want real help in understanding what they saw, they just want acknowledgment and praise for finding something that to them is 'special'... doesnt help when you have people who then egg them on

I'm perfectly willing to accept it's a satellite, I've already said that. What I did say was that it's not Jupiter, Venus, Sirius etc. I also said debunkers welcome, which is the opposite of "don't debunk me".

I'm still not convinced it's a satellite as I mentioned above, but I've also stated that i would be more willing to believe this than Jupiter, Venus, Sirius etc. Which i know for a fact it's not.

So are you suggesting I should humbly accept stuff I don't believe to be true because a bunch of people choose to gang up on me and tell me it is without any evidence? To me that's being dogmatic, not what I'm doing. At the very least I'm trying to offer evidence, whether I'm proven right or wrong I'm putting a case forward. No one claiming it to be Jupiter has done that. The people who have suggested it could be a satellite have and I have also considered this, arrived at a different conclusion for now. But i still respect this position as I believe it's possible.

If you check youtube you will find many videos from Australia documenting this object. So some people in the Southern Hemisphere are seeing it.

I have openly discussed every aspect of it in depth and if you'd cared to read through the thread you would have seen this. i could also claim to be getting fed up with people who jump into threads without actually reading what's been said beforehand, but I respect a person's right to make rash decisions also.

Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.

Going back to 6am, 3 days ago, using stellarium puts the satellite AMSAT OSCAR 40 in the position you describe, can someone a little more savvy confirm this for me.

I'll just add to the previous post that nowhere did I claim to have made a startling discovery, i've made it patently clear that people were documenting this long before myself and with much better evidence. I merely posted my video making no claims other than that I knew it wasnt' Venus, Sirius or Jupiter and I still welcome people to debunk that.

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.

6am not pm

edit oops, i thought this was in relation to me giving the 90 degree angle point. I'm starting to wonder now if it's a satellite myself. Though I'm still keeping an open mind.

Incidentally, if this really is an unknown celestial object then stellarium will be useless at locating it.

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Just edited my last post above.