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Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.
Going back to 6am, 3 days ago, using stellarium puts the satellite AMSAT OSCAR 40 in the position you describe, can someone a little more savvy confirm this for me.edit on 16/11/2010 by Catch_a_Fire because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.
Going back to 6am, 3 days ago, using stellarium puts the satellite AMSAT OSCAR 40 in the position you describe, can someone a little more savvy confirm this for me.edit on 16/11/2010 by Catch_a_Fire because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by solipsism
Stellarium doesnt give a magnitude for this sat, i'd imagine it could be brighter being so much closer to us. If your in Ayreshire then you would have a lot less light pollution than i get here so it would appear bright.
Originally posted by annella
OP'er....I see you have an Observatory in Glasgow
www.astro.gla.ac.uk...
and I wonder if getting touch with them may be an idea? Assuming many others have noticed what you have they must have investigated at some time. Just saying. And I hope it really is something exciting!
BTW, I only read to page 2 so if it has been debunked or explained somehow, my apologies to all . Oh, and sundry!
Originally posted by solipsism
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.
Going back to 6am, 3 days ago, using stellarium puts the satellite AMSAT OSCAR 40 in the position you describe, can someone a little more savvy confirm this for me.edit on 16/11/2010 by Catch_a_Fire because: (no reason given)
This is interesting. Is there any way that we can find out if this is a particularly large or reflective Satellite because at 6am it is 3 times the brightness of Sirius, possibly more and it's also at least twice the size.
On 13 December 2000 at 11:23 UTC, transmissions from AO-40 ceased during the exercising of its 400 newton motor. The Command Team were able to infer that there had been an explosion caused by pressure in the propellant pipes caused by malfunction of the control valves. A protective cap that was supposed to be removed from the motor before launch, was inadvertently left in place. When the motor was fired, pressure built up where it shouldn't, and destructive failure occurred. The loss of the motor caused AO-40 to be left in an equatorial orbit that the satellite was not designed for.
Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
Originally posted by solipsism
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Well i rolled stellarium back to around 6pm, and using your description of it being far to the right of the moon as Jupiter is to the left of the moon, i thought it might of been Altair, but even on a clear night here Altair wouldnt appear as it does in your pics/vids. A satellite is looking more likely, next time you spot it turn on stellarium and click the satellite icon see if it shows up there, im honestly at a loss now.
Going back to 6am, 3 days ago, using stellarium puts the satellite AMSAT OSCAR 40 in the position you describe, can someone a little more savvy confirm this for me.edit on 16/11/2010 by Catch_a_Fire because: (no reason given)
This is interesting. Is there any way that we can find out if this is a particularly large or reflective Satellite because at 6am it is 3 times the brightness of Sirius, possibly more and it's also at least twice the size.
The plot thickens:
On 13 December 2000 at 11:23 UTC, transmissions from AO-40 ceased during the exercising of its 400 newton motor. The Command Team were able to infer that there had been an explosion caused by pressure in the propellant pipes caused by malfunction of the control valves. A protective cap that was supposed to be removed from the motor before launch, was inadvertently left in place. When the motor was fired, pressure built up where it shouldn't, and destructive failure occurred. The loss of the motor caused AO-40 to be left in an equatorial orbit that the satellite was not designed for.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
reply to post by Catch_a_Fire
No real science to it, if this bird, AO-40, is in a stationary orbit...then it pretty much hangs in place with the turning earth. Sats flare, or reflect sunlight, when the sun's rays hit it from beneath, making them visible in the dark or dusk / near dawn sky. If this object appears more to the West, and it is visible at dusk, then it would reflect more sunlight in the early evening to 10ish or so...not so much in the early am, as the sun is rising from the east.
If OP's object is appearing in the east...and visible as early as 6:00pm...then we must be talking about something else altogether....
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by Cole DeSteele
Where we're located the moon comes from east to west, this object as stated by the OP is to the far right of the moon, so it is in the west and clearly visible in the AM, i think thats right lol. So could it be this?.
Originally posted by solipsism
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by Cole DeSteele
Where we're located the moon comes from east to west, this object as stated by the OP is to the far right of the moon, so it is in the west and clearly visible in the AM, i think thats right lol. So could it be this?.
far right of the moon, that's on our left hand side. Can i just ask, what is the OP?
edit on 16-11-2010 by solipsism because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Originally posted by solipsism
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by Cole DeSteele
Where we're located the moon comes from east to west, this object as stated by the OP is to the far right of the moon, so it is in the west and clearly visible in the AM, i think thats right lol. So could it be this?.
far right of the moon, that's on our left hand side. Can i just ask, what is the OP?
edit on 16-11-2010 by solipsism because: (no reason given)
OP = Original Post/er
Can you clear something up for me, if you were looking north to the top of scotland what side would this object be visible, im thinking we're getting our bearings crossed.
Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
reply to post by Catch_a_Fire
Wait, I'm confused. I actually have seen orbiting birds lit up like Christmas in the West near dawn myself. I would think a stationary one in the west would be brighter in early evening. Now i'm not so sure about that. All I know about sat flare/ reflection is what I see round here, so could be either way I'll concede.
Wish I had a map that showed where this bird is in the sky right now.
I think we're closing in on this either way...either that's it or we rule it out. Maybe you guys have better view tomorrow night wihout clouds.
will check in then...