FEMA CAMPS: They are obviously real.

reply to post by MrX07


i can't seem to get the kind of feed back i want here .. so let me ask a straight up question ...why are all our troops still in iraq ..fighting for their freedom ... while we're taring down our own free country here ...?

Originally posted by openmind444
So we have seen the photographic evidence that the FEMA camps are in fact a reality and are being constructed in many locations around the United States as we speak. Also, it is no secret as to the intent and purpose for which they are being constructed..so it would be pointless to inundate members with images or videos to get the point across. So I would like the ATS posters to sound off and express what they feel like this means for the future of our great nation and it's citizens. And also to ask yourself, is the construction of FEMA or "prison" camps within our own borders a warning to make an example of those who do not show compliance or are they a means to filter out the "undesirables", those who the government feel haven't the genetical or economical prowess to contribute to the new world point of view which is on the way? Give me your opinions...

edit on 10-11-2010 by openmind444 because: (no reason given)

reply to post by openmind444
If you look at this situation logically I would ask how might they put all 307,006,550Americans into these camps?Not only that who is going to put us there?I know other Americans won't,nor will the military they would have to bring in quite a few foreign troops to do the job.I say the probability of this occurring is..................................

www.youtube.com...
youtube video of camp
More here
endgamegovernmentagenda.blogspot.com...


and a katrina story here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

List of feema camps here....
www.sianews.com...

More video here....
video.google.com...#


Australian camps here...
www.youtube.com...

I will respond to this as I have other "FEMA Death Camp" topics.

Show me the proof.

I have an "above top secret" security clearance. I can and am willing to visit any and all supposed facilities within a reasonable distance from my location. I will take pictures and report honestly on my findings there. I am not read on to any SCI compartments that would prevent me from doing so legally.

Give me a location to look at- MGRS grid, lat/lon, even a distance and heading from a known road intersection will do. I'm pretty good at navigating. I can take pictures and interpret function based on my 8+ years of military experience. I can post the same pictures in the likely event all don't agree.

I may be in the service, but I love a good conspiracy theory.

In my 4 or so years of membership here, nobody has ever stepped up to my challenge. I have literally lived blocks from supposed FEMA facilities. Nobody has had the balls to send me somewhere to change my mind, or even to respond for that matter.

FEMA camps are BS. Let me know if you think otherwise.

PS- I'm currently at Ft Knox, construct requests thereto. I'll be watching the Huskers game tomorrow, so don't expect immediacy. But nobody has ever accepted my challenge, so whatever. Go Big Red!

reply to post by WhiteOneActual
I believe this to be more than enough proof for you sport.

www.sianews.com...

reply to post by WhiteOneActual
And by the way, if you wanna take a drive out to those "camps" or "facilities" on that list of great credible and solid evidence, that are supposedly B.S., take some photos to help provide further proof that they are in fact "not" B.S., that would be greatly appreciated.

reply to post by MrX07
They are not fighting for "their" freedom, though they are under the assumption that they are. They are in Iraq and Afghanistan, being used as tools under the "guise" of "fighting for freedom", when in all actuality they are fighting and dying for the personal "self-interests" of their cowardly government and corporate leaders..to whom the value of human life is zero. But that's a whole other forum and thread all together.

here is the real camp from the Jesse Ventura show this week:

www.correctionscorp.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

its a genuine camp for "immigrant" detention owned by a contractor.

could be used anytime for FEMA.

and here we see maps and locations similar to the t.v. shows and talk sites:

www.bop.gov...

all this plus existing military compounds could be used anytime.

scroll through some of the links and you will see many familiar pictures that have been touted as "FEMA" camps......they are already here as State and FED prisons.

check all the CCA facilities used for various States and FED prison operations:

CCA has contracts with many govt agencies !!

www.correctionscorp.com...

and finally, you can read H.R. 645 here:

www.govtrack.us...

All that comes to mind is this, I can't help but wonder if John Titor was right when you compare our timeline and the events that are taking place with what he said.

reply to post by TechVampyre
I would have to say that John Titor is more than correct.

reply to post by openmind444


I agree.

reply to post by openmind444


This is always the answer I get- here is a big long list of general locations that are impossible to document. There is no proof here. If they know where these things are, why would they not put out detailed info for people to see for themselves? Where are the directions? The pictures?

I mean, I used to be stationed at Ft Riley. Supposedly there is a FEMA camp there. According to your document it is located at precisely....

"Ft. Riley - Just north of Interstate 70, airport, near city of Manhattan."

Where the hell is that? All of Ft Riley is north of I-70. There are two airports north of I-70 near Manhattan, one civilian and one military. All of Ft Riley is "near" Manhattan. All 100,656 acres of it.

So where does the burden of proof fall? Do I need to photograph 253 square miles of terrain to prove there isn't a FEMA camp there? Or does someone out there give me an actual location that I can reasonably look at? One person has ever gave me a specific location, which happened to be on Riley- it turned out to be a gas station.

As for Ft Knox, my current home....

"Ft. Knox - Detention center, possibly located near Salt River, in restricted area of base. Local patriots advise that black Special Forces & UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area"

I go to the Salt River training areas frequently. Sadly, I was there a few weeks before this thread was generated on ROC duty (otherwise I would have taken plenty of boring pics). Salt River is used by SEALs and Army SF because its one of the few inland waterborne ranges in the states. They can put their boats in and shoot whatever caliber they want, cause it all goes into an impact area for tank main guns. Its where the "SF black helos" come to helicast and do river ops. I got lost down in the SF compound during a wildfire. Saw some trailers and BBQ pits, but no internment camps. But I guess I didn't see the whole 140 mile length of the Salt River, or all 109,000 acres of Fort Knox, so I can't say for sure.

In addition to the above, here is where I can help you over the next few months, if I have the info-

"Scott AFB - Barbed wire prisoner enclosure reported to exist just off-base. More info needed, as another facility on-base is beieved to exist."

If I had locations, I could give you pictures of both on and off base facilities by next Monday. Absolutely serious. I'm going there for Thanksgiving. Please give me a solid location. Really. You have almost a whole week to put something together.


"Louisville - FEMA detention facility, located near restricted area US naval ordnance plant. Military airfield located at facility, which is on south side of city."

I live right outside of Louisville. I go there several times a week. I am not aware of any "naval ordinance plants," and the only (acknowledged) military airfield in the area is located on Ft Knox, so these directions don't help me much. Other than "south side of the city," where should I be looking?


"Fort Ord - Closed in 1994, this facility is now an urban warfare training center for US and foreign troops, and may have some "P.O.W. - C.I." enclosures."

I'm moving to Monterey over the holidays. Old Ft Ord will be a few miles away. Get me some grids to the "POW-CI enclosures" and I'll go for a scenic hike.


Help me help you.

Originally posted by WhiteOneActual
reply to post by openmind444

 

"Fort Ord - Closed in 1994, this facility is now an urban warfare training center for US and foreign troops, and may have some "P.O.W. - C.I." enclosures."

I'm moving to Monterey over the holidays. Old Ft Ord will be a few miles away. Get me some grids to the "POW-CI enclosures" and I'll go for a scenic hike.

Help me help you.

maybe here ?

nimst.tripod.com...

www.fortordcleanup.com...

www.blm.gov...

reply to post by xuenchen


I don't need maps of Fort Ord, I need to know specifically where on Ord the facility in question is supposed to be.

Again, MGRS or Latitude/Longitude coordinates, or a distance and direction from a known point.

I don't have time to search the whole fort for something that probably isn't there. Ord is considerably smaller than the other locations listed, but its still around 2000 acres. Thats quite a lot of area looking for something when I don't even know what it looks like.

If you want pictures of a specific place, let me know. If you want random pictures of everything on the post, use the internet. Here is a good site for Ord- www.fortord.net...

you know what? i hope there are FEMA camps are in existence. i mean if an epic natural disaster were to hit say yellowstone for instance, it would be nice to have some sort of a plan somewhere in the united states fo the people with no place to go. we all saw how organized the aftermath of katrina was...not i'm just trying to see some sort of positive use for the camps. then again if there is a positive motive for the camps, why all the secrecy?

Originally posted by WhiteOneActual
reply to post by xuenchen

 

I don't need maps of Fort Ord, I need to know specifically where on Ord the facility in question is supposed to be.

Again, MGRS or Latitude/Longitude coordinates, or a distance and direction from a known point.

maybe here:

www.topozone.com...

Fort Ord Post Stockade is a Building in the state of California (county of Monterey), located at latitude - longitude coordinates (also known as lat-long or GPS coordinates) of N 36.66218 and W -121.79578. Fort Ord Post Stockade is shown in the center of the topographic (topo) map, which is sourced from the United States Geographical Survey map USGS MARINA quad. The nearest major town is Marina, CA.

the "stockade" would have holding cells ... right ??

FEMA camp stories have been around for 30 years. We are always about to be rounded up by whomever is President at the time. I expect 30 years from now the same stories will still be around. And I will still be waiting.

Originally posted by xuenchen
maybe here:

www.topozone.com...

Fort Ord Post Stockade is a Building in the state of California (county of Monterey), located at latitude - longitude coordinates (also known as lat-long or GPS coordinates) of N 36.66218 and W -121.79578. Fort Ord Post Stockade is shown in the center of the topographic (topo) map, which is sourced from the United States Geographical Survey map USGS MARINA quad. The nearest major town is Marina, CA.

the "stockade" would have holding cells ... right ??

Thanks for the grids. I was already planning on checking out Ord (I dig "ghost towns") so I'll pay special attention to the stockade. Apparently its being or been gutted and turned into a cement plant... I'll see what I can do to confirm or deny that. There are pictures below of the inside from earlier this year that don't look much like a cement plant. It'll be a while though, I won't even get into the area until after the new year and I'll still have to find a house and all that.

In the meantime, here are some rather artsy pics of it-
www.fortord.net...
www.fortord.net...

And some bonus pics of underground ammo storage bunkers that people get worked up about around here from time to time-
www.fortord.net...

Fema camps are death camps for Christians and Patriots! They will never get me alive!