Moscow Building 5000 Underground Shelters by 2012

reply to post by magestyk7


Stereo maybe a lot of things but he does bring the opposing perspective and usually backs them up. you gotta give him credit for that.

Although I don't agree with everything he writes I appreciate his dedication to this topic and I think he adds a lot to the discussion what fun would it be if it was all one sided.

Things happening in plain sight should be noted and kept in the back of our minds and if shtf we will not be as shocked and dumbfounded.

MD

reply to post by fah0436

Originally posted by fah0436

reply to post by Maiden PEI

 

You're on to something.
I'd like see to some links to the secret underground cities for the elite.

For the rest of us U.S. citizens, looks like FEMA camps!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanx, Fah, for the reply & thanx everyone for your patience in waiting for me to post some links to sources.

There is SO much I have dug up in my research that I wish I had the energy to post a bigger, better presentation here but I just don't.

Hopefully these few links...along with the videos from Phil Schneider (RIP)...will give you a fairly good idea on the subject & pique your interest for more...&...a Google search will bring up lots more websites.

Enjoy!

Mormon Illuminati Underground City?

Unerground Cities & New World Order Population Control

Deep Military Underground Bases (DUMBs) - Article & Videos by The Vatic Project
If you don't want to read the introductory note, just scroll down to where the article starts.

Phil Schneider - Underground Cities - Article & Videos

Phil Schneider - Underground Cities - Another Article With Videos

Tunnels Under The USA & Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBS)
This article includes a map of the tunnel system under the US.

A Sinister Site - The Masonic Denver International Airport

A Sinister Site - The Masonic Denver International Airport - Includes A Picture Of The Weird Roof

reply to post by magestyk7


Very interesting video... I don't have any doubts that perhaps russian government has a plan to build those bunkers, but I highly doubt they will be intented FOR the people.
It's almost impossible to get a decent apartment with normal living conditions from the government, let alone the hiding place in the bunker to survive.



www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Mad dog

No need to add Fuel to the Fire.
It's in the past, just want to focus on discussing the bunkers.

reply to post by Maiden PEI


Thanks for those links. I wasn't aware of the The Vatic Project.
First time I heard of it really. I just finished reading the blog, gonna look the video series.
Very interesting.

reply to post by in2delite

Well it seems that all the bunkers would hold over 27 million people.
For how long they can stay underground with food and water? who knows, but i'm sure out of that number civilians would be included.

reply to post by magestyk7

So the video is a hoax because there is no construction. It's not going to be done anytime soon during or after 2012. And it's all Lies and a waste of time.
OK Thanks for your opinion. LOL
To get back on the subject because this dude is just being disruptive(troll).

You know that's now what I said. This thread is becoming a very sad effort to misrepresent anything.

1. I never said the video was a hoax
2. The video is explicit in 2 separate places that construction has not started
3. Only the planning will be done by 2012

A polar shift if it ever occurred would create massive earth quakes, floods and eruptions.

Pole shifts are slow events and are not associated with any rapid events such as quakes, floods, or eruptions.

We know an unknown planet entering our solar system is a hoax.

The only possible scenario these bunkers would offer protection that I could think off would be an Ice Age.

Why would anyone go underground to a crowded facility for an ice age? Makes no sense. What good would these bunkers serve for an ice age?

reply to post by magestyk7

No need to add Fuel to the Fire.
It's in the past, just want to focus on discussing the bunkers.

But are you going to tell the truth about the bunkers? You continue to lie about the contents of the video - specifically the fact that the video makes it abundantly clear that no bunkers are being built at the moment. The planning should be done by 2012. That makes all of the construction after 2012.

Furthermore, you misrepresented my posts about the video. I believe that everyone can read for themselves and see that I did not call anything a hoax except for Nibiru. I never disputed the authenticity of the video, nor the news source. I simply stated that several people including yourself have misrepresented the content of the video.

reply to post by Maiden PEI

Love that goofy article about the DIA bronco state that you linked to. I picked out a few of dumbest comments from the article.

Once inside many travelers and visitors have questioned the odd murals, artwork,

I could say that about most of the airports I've been in.

Many enthusiastic onlookers claim a massive underground complex beneath the Airport.

Since the project was done in the open where are the contractors that did the work?

Different contractors have been hired for different parts of the airport.

That's normal. How many single companies are there large enough to build a project of this size that have full time employees to keep from project to project? That's right. You hire as you have the need. Hiring a company is easier than finding individuals. You see what's happening?

Granite imported from all over the world

That's because mining regulations are lax in other countries and it is cheaper to import.

Leo Tanguma painted the Murals...

Instead of asking this author why he misrepresents the work of the artist, why not go ask the artist himself. Tanguma thinks all of this talk about him by DIA conspiracists is rather humorous.

Denver was chosen because it is centrally located and connects to hundreds of miles of underground tunnels, which likely lead to a giant underground city for the Elites and Government officials.

So where is all of the dirt? This was written by someone that thinks when you mine there is no debris to deal with.

Here is my own thoughts on what the DIA looks like. Hardly a swastika. It looks like a shuttle about to launch. Yes, everyone can have fun with seeing shapes. Pretty obvious that the DIA does not look like a swastika.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f6f76d32702b.jpg[/atsimg]

I am not suggesting that the DIA represents a shuttle launch base. No. I am simply suggesting that those seeing a swastika in the design need to get a grip on reality.

reply to post by stereologist

Originally posted by stereologist

Why would anyone go underground to a crowded facility for an ice age? Makes no sense. What good would these bunkers serve for an ice age?

Perhaps you've read my posts on this thread and already know that I too dislike the way the video is represent in the OP.

However, deep underground bunkers (not those of Moscow, which were planned quite shallow) may serve well during the hypothetical (or inevitable) ice-age. Earth in the deep is very warm, and therefore ground heat could be used as a heating system, also free of charge and propably quite trusworthy also

-v

Originally posted by v01i0
reply to post by stereologist

 

Originally posted by stereologist

Why would anyone go underground to a crowded facility for an ice age? Makes no sense. What good would these bunkers serve for an ice age?

However, deep underground bunkers (not those of Moscow, which were planned quite shallow) may serve well during the hypothetical (or inevitable) ice-age.

The Russians could be trying to keep their citizens safe from Project BlueBeam.

Hallucinations in the sky.

This topic reminds me of the NK$50 million seed vault being built by the Norwegian government. 2 things come to mind.


1. Why the date 2012?

Why not 2014, 2016, 2020?


2. 5000 bunkers = bomb shelters?

Assuming it has nothing to do with 2012, then why bomb shelters? What bomb threat could be so great that the government MUST build 5000 bunkers that could hold more than 20 million people? Were I to be a Russian, this question alone is enough to make me think.

First off, let me say, 2012 is gonna be an 'event', but who's "event" will it be? Will it be a man-made event appearing to be natural, or will nature unleash it's fury? That is the question.

From what i DO know regarding 2012 is it is more of an 'awakening' rather than an "end of the world" type deal. If i'm not mistaken, it has something to do with the level of consciousness. That is why it is referred to as: "the great awakening". It's supposed to be a new time in our lives, as a 'species'. My guess is that we will all begin to see the meaning of our lives, and it will contradict EVERYTHING we have been LED to believe. When some people find out the TRUTH...it may be hard for them to recover, KNOWING their who life was based on LIES! That would be a hard pill to swallow, knowing that you lived your entire life, never fulfilling your PURPOSE; all because you BELIEVED the 'illusion'.

You know the illusion i'm talking about; some call it the 'American Dream'. There is NO American dream! It's a fairytale, just like the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and "Happily Ever After". Even finding out that 911 was a lie, can be hard for some people to accept; but it still doesn't change the FACTS!

Right now, people are complacent, and comfortable. As long as they have their 'jobs', a place to lay their head, and a way to talk about their problems, then, all is well! Meanwhile.....life quickly passes them by.

I think SOMETHING is going to happen...for the 2012 event. My only question is by WHO? Will it be HAARP and other military goodies, or will it actually be natural? My heart tells me the prior...it will be man-made, designed to look natural...intended to deceive the people....especially the religious community!

It could be anything from a fake alien attack, uniting the world; or it could be some kind of mass abduction by aliens appearing to look like the rapture; or it could be the 3 1/2 years of peace, before the ish hits the fan. 2012 will be too good of an opportunity for the elite to waste...and my bet is they are setting things up to dupe us....but it's gonna be real. Do i make sense?

Imagine a real life 2012 movie type scenario...totally man-made. Wouldn't that scare the ish out of you?

reply to post by jamiejames


This is something I do not get in regards of 2012-Theories; Exactly where have this idea about a Great Awakening sprung? I highly doubt it would be sprung from the Mayans, as they didn't reveal very much about that date. And more so, no text describing an Awakening. All they say, is that it would be a return-date of the Gods and especially one of their favorite gods.

So where does the idea of an awakening come from?

Nowadays I am extremely sceptical against that theory, as it seems to be a totally modern New Age-invention.

Off Topic

According to Theosophy, the Age Of Aquarius is expected in the year 2012. And with the age of Aquarius, comes The Great Awakening. That is how some people get the idea that 2012 will be the year of The Great Awakening. I personally do not share the same enthusiasm though.

reply to post by Cerridwen


Thank you very much. Unfortunately, however, I don't know if it actually made me wiser about it or not. :/

Oh well.

reply to post by v01i0


Yeah I think it could be something along those lines. The bunkers are not that deep but they are good enough for people to go out and come back in so they wont freeze. The other could be if heavy asteroid, comet or space debris start hitting the earth it could serve as protection.

reply to post by Nightchild


According to David Icke theory, he believed humans weren't originally aggressive and divided the way we are today. Our DNA were manipulated/altered so we could be in a negative state. There are tons of video and reading material of David Icke explaining all this. The topic will take you into other areas. If you dont beleive in ET's then let this go.

But if you look waaaaay back, humans weren't aggressive. We used to live in harmony with the earth and love one another. From what I read the mayans knew/saw the changes coming. They also heavily believe in spiritual awakening. In a new level of Enlistment.
The late Ian Xel Lungold, did several videos(They are Excellent) explaining the evolution the mayas knew about.
www.youtube.com...

Keep in mind also there is still mayan people alive that still carry their traditions. If you want to check this video out it says what they believe in.
www.youtube.com...

Anyway, I just put all this in the open. It's for you to decide what to believe in.
Well that's enough of that, lets get back to 2012 bunker business.

reply to post by v01i0


True, a deep bunker is warm, but the video specifically states that these bunkers are only 10 to 15m deep. The problem with the deep bunkers in an ice age is getting fresh air if continental glaciation places a mile of ice overhead. You also have the drowning problem when the ice melts. So it is a trade off, but these bunkers are too shallow to use for heating. My guess is that these bunkers at that depth will remain an even probably 45F year round until humans or other warm objects enter the chambers.

reply to post by In nothing we trust


So a 10m depth is sufficient? I don't believe in the existence of this project bluebeam, but for the sake of discussion suppose it exists. How deep do the bunkers have to be for safety? I would think that above ground walls of cinder block might be sufficient and far cheaper.

reply to post by Cerridwen


If you go back to the video they stated that the deeper subway system is also a shelter. Since the construction of the subway system the population has increased and that requires the construction of more shelters. I'm not so clear as to why people are focused on a particular seed vault. Seeds vaults have been built for decades. Seed companies have their own. Lots of countries have seed vaults.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by In nothing we trust

 

So a 10m depth is sufficient? I don't believe in the existence of this project bluebeam, but for the sake of discussion suppose it exists. How deep do the bunkers have to be for safety? I would think that above ground walls of cinder block might be sufficient and far cheaper.

Think of the cover story

What would they tell the people?

reply to post by magestyk7

But if you look waaaaay back, humans weren't aggressive. We used to live in harmony with the earth and love one another. From what I read the mayans knew/saw the changes coming. They also heavily believe in spiritual awakening. In a new level of Enlistment.

This is all fairy tales.

Take the claim of humans weren't aggressive. That's simply not true. Even ancient fossils reveal people eating the marrow of other people.

Did people live in harmony with the Earth. That's a wonderful myth. Studies of things like bison kill sites shows that huge numbers were killed yet few were butchered. With few people and huge herds to decimate ancient man was as sloppy as people today.

The Mayans did not see a change coming. They hardly mention anything at all about the end of the long count calendar. It was frauds such as Lungold that created a false history. Lungold made stuff up here and there to create his New Age version of the Maya. He even incorporated Aztec symbols into the Mayan history. That once square Aztec glyph was rounded by Lungold and claimed to represent the galaxy. What a fake he is. That fake Mayan symbol has even been used in crop circles.