Pit Bull Conspiracy?

reply to post by louieprima


Really, if someones pet pitbull gets loose you will blast 'em with your shotgun. It sems like you are a much more dangerous entity in your community than any loose dog. I would rethink that statement. People get bitten by dogs each year, sure. Many people also get hit by stray bullets from wackos with itchy trigger fingers.

Pits where breed to bait bear and bulls. In a pack they are almost unstoppable. This is what I think the problem is. Most of the attacks I've heard of is because there is more than one dog. Most dogs are impressionable by the Alpha males so it doesn't take much for a Pit Bull to attack something if the other dog reacts first. Being that they are very powerful their attacks are most notable and life threatening. I don't think they attack more than other dogs. They just leave more of a mark due to there strength.

I had a pit and she was fine by herself as long as I was the Alpha. They are hard headed but one of the most loyal dogs you could have. She was great with people. Loved company. They do get a bad rep because people don't know how to respect them.

If anyone really wants one but you are scared of their capabilities then I would recommend not having another dog to influence them.

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Montgomery Oppenheimer Black the 3rd does not appreciate being targeted by TPTB...

As a mattter of fact, tonight during his walk around 9pm, he was attacked by a vicious 10 pound shih tzu, the owner of the shih tzu was scared out of her mind once she realized her 10 pound monster was charging a pitbull and with 1 working foot, hopped her way to the rescue of her ballsy mutt...

On a serious note, the above really happened tonight but pitbulls are dogs, not monsters or weapons

Although Montgomery was tested in his field of expertise he did not attack but sat and waited until the shih tzu hushed and sniffed.

By the way, this costume was 20 bucks for halloween and he wasnt so comfortable walking around in it so it was worn long enough for this picture to be taken. As long as you treat them with respect as the living creature they are, they wont be vicious.

It's always a conspiracy with you isn't it? There is no conspiracy. Pit Bull dogs are target because it's simple to target the owner.

reply to post by OptimistPrime


I loved my pit-bull. He was a rescue dog and he knew it. He gave his entire love to me...I was his human.

That is where they can be exploited. They are so very loyal and I believe they realize on some level they are fighter for they're owner. That drive they have to protect the one they love gets twisted in the dog fight training and then you have a dangerous dog.

If raised properly they are the best...but they may inadvertently attack a person if they think the one they are loyal too is in danger.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by OptimistPrime

 

I loved my pit-bull. He was a rescue dog and he knew it. He gave his entire love to me...I was his human.

That is where they can be exploited. They are so very loyal and I believe they realize on some level they are fighter for they're owner. That drive they have to protect the one they love gets twisted in the dog fight training and then you have a dangerous dog.

If raised properly they are the best...but they may inadvertently attack a person if they think the one they are loyal too is in danger.

I got a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, admittedly i didn’t want one due to the bad name (I live in the UK on a council estate so see a lot of these trophy dogs trying to rip each other to pieces)

We was offered one as it could not be looked after by the current owner. 12wk old puppy. She is now 6 months.

You can certainly tell she has some...let’s say "fire" in the belly but she is the most affectionate animal i have ever come across. I would like to say I have trained her right and she is always gentle with children (I have a 7yr old) but a little more harder on us adults... EG you will get more of a nip but it is still in a playful manner.

She will however defend and protect, but it’s down to how you train them.
She will first cower and lay down when she meets a new dog but if they try to be dominant so will she but that’s just a dogs pack mentality.

reply to post by OptimistPrime


They are a pretty mean dog.

Me my brother and our two friends all had one, the dogs where all brothers and one sister And every chance they got they tried to rip each other to bits.

Mine was the most placid out of the bunch But one day it got a hold of my friends dog(my dogs bro) and wouldnt let go.
I heard a couple of ways to get the dog to unlock was to 1: hit him in the balls. and 2: stick my finger up his ass.

After a few mins of him been locked on i reluctantly tried both options And none of them worked All i had for my trouble was a sticky thumb.

Any way the only way i got him off was when he went for a better grip around the other dogs neck to try and choke it. as he let go to move more towards the other dogs throat i pulled him back and away from the other dog. So i would say they are a pretty dangerous dog.

By the we didnt know they wer pitbulls when we first got them as pups, we where told they where staffs(staffordshire bull terriers)

reply to post by OptimistPrime


Here in Australia the largest majority of all attacks on humans by dogs ARE in fact perpetrated by Pit Bulls and it would be a reasonable guess that the statistics in the USA would be similar.

I personally would like to see laws against breeding these dogs.

I've met a few pitbulls, as strays that I turned into our ACC and a neighbors pet. They were all wonderful dogs, even though the first was found skinny, scarred, and a heavy chain locked around his neck. I own two Jack Russells. They are about 15 pounds. If JRT's were bigger, they would be dangerous. They are hunting dogs, and known to kill small animals including cats.
No dog should be banned because of their breeding. But lots of people should be banned from having dogs. I've read that some communities have considered banning any "bully breed". I've had, and plan to have again, an English Bull Terrier. They were bred to bait bulls, and are strong dogs, with low center or gravity and powerful jaws, determined and stoic. But they have been bred to be companions. They are non-controntational, non-aggressive, funny, lovable and loving. And sweet. And could be banned for having "Bull" in their breed name.

reply to post by OptimistPrime
there's a few shows on television that actually portrays them as being gentle,loving dogs. The breed of the dogs are seen as vicious and some owners train them to be that way,they are abused and used and trained as fighting dogs and that's where they get this reputation you can take most breeds of dogs and if you train them that way they are going to be mean and untrustworthy.It's not the breed of the dog its breed of the owners.

Cuteness overload.... There good doggies really

reply to post by louieprima


Can you please post some of your "facts" please? Apparently your "facts" do not coincide with the real facts found by studies done by credible agencies that are "dog authorities". I see alot of emotion from you about the real facts. Im sorry you live in fear.

They can be good dogs but it's in their genetics to be aggressive. They CAN turn on anyone at anytime regardless of how they are trained. My cousin has a Pitt and that dog grew up with my aunts dog for years. Just last year the pitt bull attacked my aunts dog for no reason and killed it, in front of my aunt. They also have the highest testosterone levels of all the dog breeds, I believe thats from all the years of inbreeding. We all know that high testosterone levels can lead to irritability and aggression. I personally like Pitt bulls, I think they are good dogs for the most part but there is always that chance that they can turn, like I said before, it's in their genetics.

reply to post by ThePeopleParty

Unfortunately for you, the "locking jaw" is a myth and NO breed has one. Try doing a simple google for locking jaw dog and you will find that it is a MYTH. Maybe just an excuse to stick your fingers in a dogs rear.

This has gone completely off topic, and turned into opinions on the dog, and not the actual topic which is the dogs getting a bad rep from the MSM for NWO take over. If you have claims about the dog being "dangerous" please link to credible sources and not Faux News or the likes.

I don't think there is a conspiracy against the breed of dog, just a case of too many people training them to be nasty, therefore there are more attacks from these dogs.

Our neighbour used to have one, kept it on a choke chain telling anyone who got near it that it would "have em". It probably would have had you if it wasn't rolling on its back getting its tummy tickled lol.

Totaly down to the owners 99% of the time, same with any dog breed.

I can be as soft as muck most of the time, but if you poked me enough, i'd bite too.

CX.

reply to post by CX

You are right, there are a ton of bad owners that get this dog due to media portrayal. They get a Bull type dog, thinking its going to be mean, and when they get the dog home and find out they are actually nice, they get frustrated and beat the dog, which in turn makes them mean. They need to have an idiot test before anyone owns any dog. If you are incompetent, or have a lifestyle that doesnt fit the breeds needs, then you get denied your choice of dog. In this case, we need govt intervention, and in a responsible matter, not to punish the dog outright and ban them from being owned.

reply to post by CX

You are right, there are a ton of bad owners that get this dog due to media portrayal. They get a Bull type dog, thinking its going to be mean, and when they get the dog home and find out they are actually nice, they get frustrated and beat the dog, which in turn makes them mean. They need to have an idiot test before anyone owns any dog. If you are incompetent, or have a lifestyle that doesnt fit the breeds needs, then you get denied your choice of dog. In this case, we need govt intervention, and in a responsible matter, not to punish the dog outright and ban them from being owned.

No Conspiracy. The breeding in Pit Bull Terriers is genetically inferior and the result is unpredictable, unprovoked, violent behavior traits. I breed Cairn Terriers... they are excellent smart happy family pets. They kill mice and snakes. They are hunting dogs that are 12 to 18 lbs. They are good for people who like a non shedding playful dog. Mine don't even seem to bark much, just the initial alarm bark.

In 1998, my husband and I bought a farm house on five acres in the Shanadoah Valley in Virginia. Shortly after moving in the neighbor adopted their son's pit bull. We had a child who was two and a half and one who was 3 months old. I was terrified to go outside with my children, even to walk to the car. My husband went and bought a riffle. I was to shoot the dog if it ever got loose and was on our five acres. The county sherriff said it's only legal to shoot the animal if it's on your property. Well, I love dogs and was horrified by that idea. I went and offered to buy the dog from the neighbors so we could relocate the dog else where, to find it a new home in another town.
The lady would not sell her son's dog.... they kept it outside tied up to its dog house along side two other dogs: a large German shepard and a Begal hound dog. Each dog was tied up to their dog houses on the other side of some pine trees out side of a fence marking our property line. For two long years and a few pounds gained from the worry and constant stress of the potiental threat, the worst finally happened.

The Pit Bull broke loose from it's dog chain and killed the Large German shepard. The lady came out of her house and tried to separate them, the Pit Bull turned on her and chewed up her leg putting her in the hospital.
Thank God it didn't happen to my family. The Pit Bull was then put down.

Some dogs give clues a long ahead of time to their violent nature, pay attention to this. A black labordor of some friends also killed its smaller part German Shepard companion on a fences 1/3 of an acre. That dog hated other dogs and grabbed my five year old by his coat sleeve one day while he was walking past. Another person's black Lab took off his newphew's ear. This happened while the boy was in the dog pen. This was also unprovoked.

The best dog out there is supposed to be a Boarder Terrier from Scotland, supposedly they cost $2,000.00!
Man's best of best friend.

My personal opinion is that pit bulls are demonized not because they are a dangerous breed but because the types of people that own them are perceived to be dangerous. They are a popular dog for certain minority groups and or criminal dog fighters.

I foster rescued pit bulls. Certainly if the breed itself were dangerous then one of those breed being rescued from deplorable conditions and abuse should be extremely vicious. NOPE! In fact, these breeds of terriers are extremely loving and loyal even after rescue from such conditions.

The media and the law are trying to keep certain people out of certain areas and do so by using this breed as the proxy.