Amazon.com Sells Pedophile Guide For Kindle!!!

I am just as concerned as to how this OP came across this book.

People who look up this type of stuff will come across it.

Its not a book you just stumble across.

Whatever excuse for "stumbling" across it, I am just as concerned about the type of person
who lets the world know about these types of books.

I myself would never of known about it, but thanks to the OP I now do.

Why does anyone really want to know something like this is available on amazon unless
they like this type of subject but wish to pawn off that they are appalled. Not saying this
is the case but if I found this book, I would just skip on by, not try and create
a thread on a forum for the attention of said book.

Gawker Article

Our Gardens of Flesh is Greaves' study of "sex and sexually from its primodial origins through its historical colorations to its ultimate expression as man's extential celebration of life and developement as the supreme expression friendship and love." (All of that sic.)

Needless to say, it's deeply unsettling: Besides an extended defense of pedophilia, he includes a long account of one adolescent boy's sexual encounter with an adult ice-cream man. (It also features impassioned paeans to masturbation, which he calls a "soul-enriching experience.") The whole book functions as a kind of manifesto, a theory of sexuality and a creepy declaration of principles.

There are excerpts from the other pulled book at this link. A lot of them.

In fact the authors entire book, our gardens of flesh, which has been pulled in addition to the child lovers guide, is available at the gawker link.

BE WARNED, graphically describes illegal sexual relations between George the Ice Cream Man and a thirteen y/o boy.

In the story, the IC man tells the kid he is not gay if he does not drop his drawers all the way.

reply to post by darkdays4u


Did you fail to READ the Thread?

I found this story on another tinfoil hat web forum, that is every bit as popular as this one. I won't name it, but those of us who like conspiracies often peruse this forum as well. (not GLP.)

In addition to being on that other forum, the story went viral, and anyone who uses the internet at all could have ":stumbled" upon it.

Thank you for insinuating my intentions, and implying I go in search for this type of filth.

And you are welcome, now you know about this topic, and it would have been nice to hear you do something other than try and malign me as the OP, when its clear had you read the thread before popping off, you would have seen how I came across this story.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
BE WARNED, graphically describes illegal sexual relations between George the Ice Cream Man and a thirteen y/o boy.

That sounds very similar to one of the short stories in the Vagina Monologues. It details the liberating experiences of a 13 year old girl who has a lesbian sexual encounter with an adult. This book is also available on Amazon. The boycott continues?

reply to post by JohnnyTHSeed


Boycotting is a nonviolent way to show displeasure with a business.

I would rather boycott , and read about pedophilia and its effectgs and clinical manifestations in a clinical book by a pedigreed therapist/DR. The author of the book in OP meant for his book to be read by children in pedo situations (refer to page one in the description post, authors own words.)

If someone has a problem with the book you are referencing, they should do what they feel is the right thing. If that is boycott so be it.

The fact the Vagina book appears to remain, yet two of Greaves books were pulled (one of the pulled books is in its entirity on the gawker link I provided). I assume Amazon had more than the calls for boycott as reasoning behind pulling them.

I suspect they had no idea they were hosting such filth.

reply to post by hotbakedtater


Amazon is still hosting works that promote pedophilia, are you still boycotting them?

reply to post by JohnnyTHSeed

Will you please link to the pedophile items (you did claim plural, correct?) that they are still listing? Thank you.

There are plenty of places to spend my money, the thing is I do not have plenty of money. I try to spend it how I see fit, and supporting businesses that care more about promoting pedophilia fantasy (which is what the pulled books were) than regular customers is not where I choose to spend my money.


I dont know why it matters to anyone else, you or others, if I am still boycotting Amazon, for one I am not the topic of discussion, so I am always very loathe to go too personal, if that bothers anyone tough. And two it has nothing to do with the OP.

The OP is about the greaves book, and yes, I was willing to boycott Amazon over it.

That is as far as my discussion will envelope.

reply to post by hotbakedtater


I did a few searches and this is what I came up with...

The Vagina Monologues includes a section entitled "The Little Coochie Snorcher that Could". This portion of the play, as originally performed, has been criticized for including a lesbian rape scene of a 13-year-old girl by a 24-year-old woman who uses alcohol to lower the inhibitions of her victim.[6] At the conclusion of the segment, the narrator (the grown-up thirteen year old girl) fondly reminisces about the rape, claiming that it helped to nurture her and help her grow as a woman, and finishes the play with the line, "If it was rape, it was good rape". The segment received criticism not only for depicting any rape as "good", but also for forming a double standard, as elsewhere in the play, male-on-female rape is depicted as not only inexcusable but the ultimate act of violence against women.

The scene was modified in later performances; the young girl's age was changed to 16, and the "good rape" line was omitted.

- Wikipedia Eve Ensler Available at Amazon.com

...what are your true feelings for your younger sister? Do you want to protect her and guide her? Is she your best friend and confidante? Or.... could it be something deeper and truer than the mere relationship of brother and sister bonded by tragic circumstance?

- Amazon.com Kana Little Sister Adult PC Game

Humbert Humbert is a European intellectual adrift in America, haunted by memories of a lost adolescent love. When he meets his ideal nymphet in the shape of 12-year-old Dolores Haze, he constructs an elaborate plot to seduce her, but first he must get rid of her mother.

- Amazon.com Lolita

Anal # - I Gave NAMBLA Pictures of Your Kid - Amazon.com

I would wager that there are some manga comics available on Amazon.com that cater to the tastes of pedophiles, but I don't know the titles one would search for.

"Promote pedophilia"

This statement is a fallacy to human knowledge, because it is impossible.

It's like the other tards that say people "promote homosexuality". Impossible.

You cannot inspire growth of a sexual desire by writing a book about it.

This is really just a grasp for control. If you don't like the book, don't read it. That's the mature thing to do...

...Not boycotting, slandering, and demanding it be removed from shelves and burned. That's juvenile.

By the way I did read all of your quotes from the book.... I also watched you fabricate straw man arguments over harmless excerpts and demonize it based on nothing but personal discomfort. You don't like it? Whose problem is that? The authors ? This allows YOU to dictate which books I can purchase on Amazon.com? Get over yourself!

Don't destroy everything you don't agree with, George Bush.

My advice, stay away from The Kite Runner if your emotions can't handle this.

reply to post by Brood

Oh because you find no problem with this book, then that means I should not boycott Amazon if I do have a problem with it?

Have you called Amazon, you and thousands others, and expressed your disgust over their pulloing of this book?

I just exercised my freedom of speech, like Greaves did when he wrote this book.

No one is stopping Greaves from selling his book, he retains all of his rights, so what is the concern here?

Why are you defending Greaves right to free speech through his Child Lover's Guide, but saying I don't have the same right, ie, dont whine or boycott things I don't like.

Contradictory of you, please defend yourself.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

Molestation and child sexual abuse ARE illegal. So, pedophilia is the desire only. Having a desire is not illegal.

I never said it was - and - my following quote pretty much confirms we’re saying the same thing. Maybe something got misunderstood?

What I wrote:

Acts of bestiality and pedophilia are illegal. Has nothing to do with censoring ‘someone else’s beliefs’.

Thanks
peace

reply to post by hotbakedtater


I did read your post...unfortunately I was looking at the pic on your avatar at the same time.

I was actually judging the face on the avatar....has that look about it. Not a trustworthy look. But then again, im just judging a book by its cover...am I not.

As you posted that face on your avatar I am clearly making an astute observation about how I MAY be led to judge a thread based on a face that to ME is not one I would trust.

If that I YOUR face, then I did not know that as you have never told me, and I am assuming its just an avatar like other peoples. If it is your face..then I do apologize for making that glaring observation. A judgment of someone is made within 30 seconds of meeting or seeing someone based on looks and facial symmetry among other things. The face in your avatar surprised me and I made a snap judgment.

However, if you did not read this book, then your opinion on it is purely judgment and not FACT as the closest you could come to know about its content is from other people.

I still am left wondering why you had to publicize the book for everyone to now become aware of it. The less people that are aware of this book..to me..the better. Again, I have not read this book and I am jumping to the conclusion that it contains untoward contents as you have said.

Well done.

reply to post by darkdays4u




From your post:

I still am left wondering why you had to publicize the book for everyone to now become aware of it. The less people that are aware of this book..to me..the better. Again, I have not read this book and I am jumping to the conclusion that it contains untoward contents as you have said.

Are you serious?

I did not publicize the book for everyone to now become aware of it.

I found out about the book due to the already VIRAL amount of attention it had garnered. Had the book received no publicity I would not have found it at all.

Just an update for everyone, the author of this Pedophile Manual has been arrested. And there were defenders of this man on this thread.

Pedo Book Author ARRESTED

The message is very clear," Judd said. "You're not going to write a book where you violate the obscenity laws of Florida. Clearly, this violated the obscenity laws."

Protests last month over the sale by Amazon.com of the book, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-lover's Code of Conduct," forced the online retailer to remove it from its list.

That's when the sheriff's office first learned about the manual, according to sheriff's spokesman Scott Wilder.

"Greaves mailed what he referred to as his own personal copy of his book, signed, after being paid $50, to an address in Lakeland, Florida, within the jurisdiction of the Polk County Sheriff's Office,'' according to a written statement. "Detectives and attorneys reviewed the book, presented the material to Polk County Judge J. Michael McCarthy, who found probable cause that Greaves distributed obscene material depicting minors engaged in activities harmful to minors."

Child safety advocates welcomed the arrest.

"We believe that it is wrong to sacrifice our children's innocence on the altar of some free-speech argument," said Cris Clapp Logan, a spokeswoman for Enough is Enough, an organization fighting the exploitation of children and promotion of pornography on the internet. "This is an issue that law enforcement at the local and national level needs to take seriously…We would love to see more involvement from the federal government."

Whoa, what kind of statement is that from Cris Clapp Logan? There is nothing wrong with Porn on the internet, as long as it doesn't involve underagers.

Are there pictures of children in the book? Because if there are, he deserves to be arrested. No one ever said anything about pictures.

Something tells me they're going to try to say that his words create a 'picture' and call that a depiction. Sounds like thought crime, to me... One definition of 'depiction' is "graphic or vivid verbal description". They might have a case. I still disagree and support his right to free speech.

I never defended this man. I defended Free Speech. It's an important difference.

Is anyone angry towards the publisher of the book? What about the printer?
Why is Amazon to blame? Amazon didn't write the book.

Originally posted by cluckerspud
Is anyone angry towards the publisher of the book? What about the printer?
Why is Amazon to blame? Amazon didn't write the book.

He self published.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater

Originally posted by cluckerspud
Is anyone angry towards the publisher of the book? What about the printer?
Why is Amazon to blame? Amazon didn't write the book.

He self published.

Interesting, He's quite the go-getter.

reply to post by frozenspark


There's a difference between inciting a crime and free speech. The plan to commit crime may exist only in the mind of one person until others are incited to join in, at which point the social danger becomes more real.

I support the right to write what you please. There should never be book bannings or censorship of written material.

In this case I think he was arrested because he failed to educate himself on the law, specifically FL obsenity law, which it seems was violated by the author selling his book to FL.