Mysterious Missile Launch Over California - 11/8/2010

Originally posted by samkent

That what I was saying if not top secret test it was a chinese sub. testing our defenses.

What kind of insane theory are you thinking? You don’t sail a few miles off shore and fire a missile! That constitutes an attack even if the missile is fired in the opposite direction. Try running up to the presidential motorcade with a plastic gun and claim I’m just testing you. Just try walking into a bank with a plastic gun and see what happens.

Some people just don’t live in the same reality as the rest of us.

What??? The US does it all the time in international waters which is what it would have been..
China has complained many times about US war games near their waters..
I don't think the US would dare complain and look to the world to be total hypocrits..
BTW, that's not to say this was a missle, chinese or otherwise.
Just pointing out facts

The US does it all the time in international waters which is what it would have been..

NO THEY DON'T

My god think about what you are suggesting! Launch a ballistic missile from a sub off Chinas shores and hope nothing goes wrong.

It’s one thing to send flights of bombers towards Russia and turn them around. They have humans. There is time to verify and correct errors in communications. But not a missile.

Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by backinblack

 

Contact details for the news station on the following.

losangeles.cbslocal.com...

Thanks, will follow up.

The other question is -- why aren't the tape's time hacks shown? All news
videotape is marked with the time it's exposed, based on a clock that
news photographers routinely verify and check before and after a shoot.

Instead, the time estimates as released by the station were at least
15 minutes in error -- complicating efforts to locate a plausible candidate
airliner's flyover.

Originally posted by samkent

The US does it all the time in international waters which is what it would have been..

NO THEY DON'T

My god think about what you are suggesting! Launch a ballistic missile from a sub off Chinas shores and hope nothing goes wrong.

It’s one thing to send flights of bombers towards Russia and turn them around. They have humans. There is time to verify and correct errors in communications. But not a missile.

I'm sorry but the US has launched missiles during war games in the past..It's a fact..

According to the Yediot Aharonot newspaper on Wednesday, the Juniper Cobra drills will simulate the firing of long-range missiles against Israel and will include a live missile interception

english.aljazeera.net...

reply to post by backinblack


There is a whole world of difference. During those exercises, or planned testing, the appropriate warning notices are in place. NOTAMs alerting Airmen and NtMs alerting mariners. Nobody wants to make an error or endanger others during weapons testing. In international waters firing areas will be set up specifically for that event and broadcast.

TJ

reply to post by JimOberg


It is one of the mysteries. Somehow I don't think that any request for the complete video will be met?


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For those still following the story then Rick Warren's images can be downloaded at the following.

contrailscience.com...

TJ

Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by backinblack

 

There is a whole world of difference. During those exercises, or planned testing, the appropriate warning notices are in place. NOTAMs alerting Airmen and NtMs alerting mariners. Nobody wants to make an error or endanger others during weapons testing. In international waters firing areas will be set up specifically for that event and broadcast.

TJ

I wasn't debating that point Tommy..
JO was saying the US would never launch a missile in international waters..

I'm sorry but the US has launched missiles during war games in the past..It's a fact..

The Juniper Cobra drills were simulated attacks by missiles. The live fire was limited to trailer launched anti missile defense missiles. The Arrow missile has a max range of 90 miles. All the surrounding nations were notified before the exercises began.

This pales in comparison to an unannounced sub launched ballistic missile. That is an act of war.

reply to post by backinblack


Hi,

Yes I understand, but many of the larger ballistic missiles have to go down range and fly over International waters and through International airspace. For example the US Minuteman ICBM tests. Everyone is warned. Some people claimed that this was a Chinese SLBM fired out to see from just off the coast of the US.

If such a launch had taken place by the Chinese then they would have broken all the International regulations set out to protect airmen and mariners. If China had conducted such a launch it would have had no way of securing the areas or airspace. If it had done so then all these Chinese ship based air surveillance radars would have been detected off the US coast.

The Russians sometime practice air launched cruise missile practice firings in the North Atlantic west of France fired from Tu-160 Blackjacks and Tu-95 Bears. They simply set up notices to airmen and notices to mariners for those closure areas in international waters/airspace. Nobody wants an accident during such testing.

TJ

It was a Stealth Chinese Submarine Launching a Unarmed Nuclear Tipped Warhead in US Territorial Waters, to Send a Message to the obama administration!

I see that the X37? is back in the hanger from its top secret flight. I wonder if the missle launched not to long ago and the ballons over NY have anything to due with the x37.

I think there is a link to space base weapons testing..


Proof.

Pentagon doesn't know anything about a missle going off the cali coast. BS

High altitude release of spy sats which we think are ballon.

I was going to start a new thread but I dont not know how.

It would read What the X37 top secret space ship was really doing.

Hiow long was it space?
What is its altitude.
Is it skimming the atmosphere and release payload?
What is its capacitiy?
Who flies in that thing CIA, NSA.
Any strange craft or anomalies in the atmophere should be noted and attributed to this craft.

Noted anomalies.
Sightings over russia. Yes
Sightings over china. Yes
Sitightings over NY. Yes
To many to list.

Get the point.

reply to post by samkent


You have to get caught. Where is the evidence.

Oh that is not evidence my comrad that is propaganda. I could make the photos myself in photoshop.

Oh ya they dont do sh_ t like that.

BS

How about breaching and pulling up behind the kitty hawk .

Hello, do you have any idea how many boats accompany that carrier.

If I'm the military and out in Int. waters and I'm armed to the T. If you pull along side me and point your gun at he your dead before you lock and load.
PERIOD.

It happens everyday its just not reported.

How about the airplane the went down in NY a little bit after sept 11.

I recall they came out 2 days later and said. Oh it was a pilots error. I forced the flapps down to hard and caused the tail to shear off.

Are you kidding me. That quick you came up with that. I don't believe it for a second.

How about the multiple reports filed at the police dept followed up with the FBI interviews. Yes they were interviewed by the FBI.

What did those reports say..
Nothing to see here people move along.

Don't be narrow minded.

Keep your imagination open and believe that anything is possible. Believe what you hear and see reported. Never believe the officail story.

Remeber Pat Tilman. He was wacked by his fellow soldiers because he was not supposed to open his mouth. You see too much and you get wacked.

Julian is next on the list.

reply to post by secretthug

I have a question. Where did the missile go ??? Hawaii? Antarctica ???

Keep your imagination open and believe that anything is possible. Believe what you hear and see reported. Never believe the officail story.

I’m afraid that’s part of your problem. Your imagination is on steroids and you pick the some of the wildest stories to believe.

How about breaching and pulling up behind the kitty hawk .

Hello, do you have any idea how many boats accompany that carrier.

If I'm the military and out in Int. waters and I'm armed to the T. If you pull along side me and point your gun at he your dead before you lock and load.
PERIOD.

You would never make it to captain in the military. You are wound too tight. Navy vessels from opposing countries have been known to play chicken for many decades. It’s just a pissing contest. You can’t attack every vessel in sight.

How about the airplane the went down in NY a little bit after sept 11.

I recall they came out 2 days later and said. Oh it was a pilots error. I forced the flapps down to hard and caused the tail to shear off.

Are you kidding me. That quick you came up with that. I don't believe it for a second.

Show me a link.

Remeber Pat Tilman. He was wacked by his fellow soldiers because he was not supposed to open his mouth. You see too much and you get wacked.

Irresponsible slander on your part. Once again you are believing the wildest stories out there. Friendly fire is a fact of war. One media outlet decided to pump up the story for ratings. And you believed it.

Since you like the wild side I hear they haven’t found Bigfoot or Nessy yet.

reply to post by samkent


NTSB findings

An American Airlines A300, like the one in this photo, was used for American Airlines Flight 587National Transportation Safety Board concluded that the cause of the crash was not terrorism, but overuse of the rudder mechanism. They cited flawed training and poor rudder design as contributing factors.[24]

Airbus and American are currently disputing the extent to which the two parties are responsible for the disaster. American charges that the crash was mostly Airbus's fault, because the A300 was designed with unusually sensitive rudder controls. Most aircraft require increased pressure on the rudder pedals to achieve the same amount of rudder control at a higher speed. The Airbus A300 and later A310 do not operate on a fly-by-wire flight control system, instead using conventional mechanical flight controls. The NTSB determined that "because of its high sensitivity, the A300-600 rudder control system is susceptible to potentially hazardous rudder pedal inputs at higher speeds."[4] The Allied Pilots Association, in its submission to the NTSB, argued that the unusual sensitivity of the rudder mechanism amounted to a design flaw which Airbus should have communicated to the airline, and pointed to ten previous incidents in which A300 tail fins had been stressed beyond their design limitation.[5] American Airlines retired all its Airbus A300-600 Aircraft from service in August, 2009, with its last flight, flight 1908 from Miami to New York-JFK operating on August 24, 2009.

Airbus charges that the crash was mostly American's fault, because the airline did not train its pilots properly about the characteristics of the rudder. Aircraft tail fins are designed to withstand full rudder deflection in one direction at maneuvering speed. They are not usually designed to withstand an abrupt shift in rudder from one direction to the other. Most American pilots believed that the tail fin could withstand any rudder movement at maneuvering speed. The NTSB indicated that American Airlines' Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Program tended to exaggerate the effects of wake turbulence on large aircraft. Therefore, pilots were being trained to react more aggressively than was necessary

reply to post by samkent


You would never make it to captain in the military. You are wound too tight. Navy vessels from opposing countries have been known to play chicken for many decades. It’s just a pissing contest. You can’t attack every vessel in sight.

Oh really. You have to be wound tight me friend. Actually I served in the arm forces and to be honest. You know nothing.

Subs take out subs all the time. You point you aim you flood the tubes and your sunk period.

Have you ever been in the military.
What is your MOS.(Job descr.)
I have (68L which is now a 94lima. Avionic communication equipment repair.

Think not.

Ask me some questions.

Where did I go to basic?

Fort Jackson

AIT
Fort gordon. How of the signal pukes. Sorry that is what we called them when I was in bravo company B366. We were located right across from the GYM where they used to do pay day activities.

Shall I go on.

CO or NCO. You will never know.

What have I seen?

Everything.

More than you will ever see in a life time. Period....
I can say that with certainty.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


I have been unable to find sat data loops for the time when it was supposed to happened. Also noted that I was unable to get sat data for March 13, 1997 pheonix lights.

Why can I get sat data for all these other dates but on days when controverial things happen the sat loops are unavailable

Thing that make me go HMmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Rocky Black
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

I have been unable to find sat data loops for the time when it was supposed to happened. Also noted that I was unable to get sat data for March 13, 1997 pheonix lights.

Why can I get sat data for all these other dates but on days when controverial things happen the sat loops are unavailable

Thing that make me go HMmmmmmmm

I think i can hear the words - National Security -.
I guess we just don't have a "need to know".

Subs take out subs all the time.

What video game do you live in?

Have you ever been in the military.
What is your MOS.(Job descr.)
I have (68L which is now a 94lima. Avionic communication equipment repair.

Think not.

Ask me some questions.

Where did I go to basic?

Fort Jackson

AIT
Fort gordon. How of the signal pukes. Sorry that is what we called them when I was in bravo company B366. We were located right across from the GYM where they used to do pay day activities.

Shall I go on.

CO or NCO. You will never know.

What have I seen?

Everything.

You have just proven my point. You are wound too tight.
You were a radio repairman and not a trigger man. Lucky for the country.

reply to post by Rocky Black


Hi Rocky,
Em Wah is having great trouble deciphering your points, Sorry!