Mysterious Missile Launch Over California - 11/8/2010

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by tommyjo

 

Thats not the original footage in fact half of that is just stills..
Thanks for posting though...

The original vid seems to have been wiped from the net..

Wonder why????

Half of that is not stills. Examine the first two videos from my first post again. That is ALL moving footage. The first footage video is what was shown on the news channels.

The footage on the first video is what was shown to General McTierney and Robert Ellsworth.





TJ

Originally posted by SarK0Y
reply to post by tommyjo

 

oh, come on, man, stop it

where are sunlight reflections there, where are trails so continuous & so broad like in the event????

Does tri-engined wide body airliner even register with you? Does the fact that contrails can and do vary depending on all manner of conditions.

If an MD-11 can generate this amount of blended contrail, then consider what it would look like if the conditions were right for a persistent contrail?

www.airliners.net...

Reflection and glare doesn't always appear. Why do you think that every aircraft or any other object filmed in the sky will automatically generate glare or reflection?

Glare and reflection in some cases can be extreme. Imagine this airliner filmed at extreme distance? All those reflections and strobing could be misinterpreted as missile engine boosters, etc.



TJ

here's you a new twist for this story.
Just FYI

the news channel hit the airwaves with this
story like the big bang theory and one of
the first people interviewed about it was
Robert Ellsworth. Other than being a former
ambassador to the NATO, do you know where
else Robert Ellsworth name shows up??

He is a Bildeburger and on the CFR.

The Bildeburger Group created under the direction of Alastair Buchan, son of Lord Tweedsmuir, and Chairman of the Royal Institute of International Affairs; its governing council was made up of Robert Ellsworth (Lazard Freres), John Loudon (N. M. Rothschild), Paul Nitze (Shroeder Bank), C. L. Sulzberger (New York Times), Stansfield Turner (who later became CIA Director), Peter Calvocoressi (Penguin Books), Andrew Schoenberg (RIIA), Daniel Ellsberg, and Henry Kissinger.

www.comingjudgement.250x.com...

Does that not get the conspiracy theories
juiced and flowing. Now why would they
ask a Bildeburger about this incident???

Incite fear and NWO?

Is the NWO using this plane contrail
as a means of mass propaganda
for a Bildeburger agenda???

You should be connecting the dots here.
I'm not saying it's a missile anymore
but UPS flight 902. But I found it very
strange that a Bildeburger was pushing
this issue in the press with the missile
theory. Have we been hoodwinked again?

There's ya a new thread.
But I'm not gonna start it

now it's all becoming quite clear

The NWO pushes the masses into fear
and starts the US and China on a road
to war by pushing the missile theory.
Then they offer the solution as the
NWO. We have been pawns in their
game of world domination.

I'll bet Alex Jones will be all over
this story if there is a Bildeburger
connection to the LA Missile Theory.

These are the links I had been hunting for -- they're still up, But I could not find them with any search engine, I had to go to the home sites and use THEIR local engines.

Most of the full-length original CBS image sequence is shown here:
www.necn.com...

and a much more useful gallery of stills shown here:
losangeles.cbslocal.com...

A second set of images of the same 'CBS contrail', from an independent observer, posted at a competing network site.:
abclocal.go.com.../local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=1

reply to post by JimOberg

Thanks for posting the links

The only one I had was at necn.com and I knew you had that one already, because you posted it before.

For god's sake it's an intercontinental ballistic missile...America has been shooting these #ers into orbit since 2006, completely ignoring treaties that forbid it. The American government's explanation is: " to protect satellites "...lol...with nuclear missiles...doesn't make sense. For you who are wondering where this missile went, the states just developed a ballistic missile that can stay in orbit for 270 days.
www.nypost.com...
So there ya go...we've probably got dozen of ballistic missiles floating around in orbit, like satellites, not only American ones and at the push of a button they drop down. Like in the ending of terminator 3. oO...Ouh yeah..apropos Terminator...anybody notice that in the newsreport they mention a satellite called " skynet " lol...

One other thing. The guy they got to comment on it immediately and give a rational explenation why it can't be anything but a plane..." defense and aerospace expert " John Pike...here is his statement:

"It's clearly an airplane contrail," Pike said Tuesday afternoon. "It's an optical illusion that looks like it's going up, whereas in reality it's going toward the camera. The tip of the contrail is moving far too slowly to be a rocket. When it's illuminated by the sunset, you can see hundreds of miles of it ... all the way to the horizon.

First of all...we all know what significance the name " Pike " has in the Illuminati...look at his statement about a missile...The guy managed to put the words:" illuminated, sunset, horizon ( Horus ) " into an explanation about why it's not a missile. Illuminati #ers.

reply to post by dude69


You are talking about the Outer Space Treaty.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.atomicarchive.com...

Think about it? You are living in fantasy land. The Russians, like the US, track everything in orbit. Your 'probably' is just pure fabrication. Both sides have enough active ICBM and SLBMs to wipe out each other. There is no requirement to put nuclear warheads in orbit.

You are relying on the like of Ken Welch. Examine his evidence

www.ken-welch.com...

Read up on the facts.

www.thespacereview.com...

If you are claiming that the events on the 8th was an ICBM then it must have been the slowest one in history!
Think about it? An unannounced ballistic launch with no NOTAM and no prior notice. The Russians would have detected it as a rogue launch. That is why neither the Russians or the US launch ICBM/SLBMs or Space launchers without creating a NOTAM or providing a time frame window for intention to launch. Both the Russians and US agreed long ago that such unannounced launches can and could be misinterpreted. Both sides can detect them so there is no requirement to launch them in secret.

TJ

reply to post by tommyjo

Please explain the exrtra high volume of vapor produced and the high speed of the object, Find a video of a contrail being produced that looks like this one and I'll go with the airplane theory.

reply to post by tommyjo

Reflection and glare doesn't always appear. Why do you think that every aircraft or any other object filmed in the sky will automatically generate glare or reflection?

well, let's do math of the event i took rough data to simplify situation, but that's towards upper limit of possible numbers.
------------------------------------------------
given data.
distance to object 60, 000 m's
reflecting area Ra= 100 m2
light intensity I=1, 000 W per m2
----------------------------------------------------
so, area of hemispherical surface is S=(2*3.14)*60000^2=2.260800000*10^10; light intensity at cam from reflecting area is i=Ra*I/S=0.000004423213022 W per m2. oh, yeah, human eye is so sensitive to feel it as glow point + actual numbers are more pessimistic than that

reply to post by SarK0Y

so, area of hemispherical surface is S=(2*3.14)*60000^2=2.260800000*10^10; light intensity at cam from reflecting area is i=I/S=0.000004423213022 W per m2. oh, yeah, human eye is so sensitive to feel it as glow point + actual numbers are more pessimistic than that

Hey SarKOY,

I'm having a children's birthday party at the house next weekend and was wondering if you may be available for the entertainment portion of the party? These kids (5-8 yrs old) will gobble up this stuff. I just gave Frumpy The Clown the boot and lost my $50 deposit but seeing your stuff, I mean who cares!

If your plans don't allow you to be the star of the day perhaps you and I could get together with a few Rubic's Cubes and have a great time.

All that being said, I envy your mathematical mind. Period.

Becker

reply to post by Becker44

heh, my friend, very thanks for your good words & inviting, but very sorry, i cannot + Just remember every child is Brilliant, & can reach to real Zvezd(Stars). give to your children the Dream to develop Spacecraft & you'll be really wondered how powerful their Minds are
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My cheers & the best wishes to you & your children.

reply to post by SarK0Y


So explain where is the constant booster or separation phase if this was a ballistic missile? The footage shown didn't just appear. All you are doing is creating a 'ballistic missile' event and launch to suit your own theory that it was some sort of quasi-ballistic missile. If it had been then it would be the slowest quasi/ballistic missile in the world!

Edited footage fooled a lot of people. Consider the fact that the 'light/burner' sequence was slowed down for effect? Oh look a burner they cry! Doug Richardson of Jane's has since retracted his initial assessment after seeing the later footage. He was fooled by the persistent contrail footage.

TJ

reply to post by tommyjo

If it had been then it would be the slowest quasi/ballistic missile in the world!

actually, you have no rights to call it "slowest" because you have no Info about real length of trajectory.

reply to post by earthdude


It has already been covered countless times during this thread and others. Try at the beginning of this thread and work your way through. Aircraft contrails, and especially ones filmed at sunset and sunrise, have been fooling people for years. Even 24 hours after the 8th Nov people in California were still filming missiles being launched.

Also consider that this airliner was an MD-11?. A tri-engined airliner capable of producing a contrail as large as this. Contrails can and do vary under a whole range of conditions.

www.airliners.net...

Even a NASA contrail scientist was fooled by the video!

www.nasa.gov...

It has all been covered. I would suggest that rather than jumping in then read through the thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

TJ

reply to post by SarK0Y


So very conveniently the missile was launched and then slowed down to mimic an incoming airliner.

Your type of missile has become quite popular over the years!





TJ

Hi, um, I know I'm a new poster and all, an I'm jumping in to this one pretty late in the discussion, but I thought of this thread today when I read that it was a missle from China and everything was hushed up about it. www.wnd.com...

reply to post by SarK0Y


agreed...the shuttle looks slow too guys...its all about distance and perspective...its not like shooting a cannon...its all about the trajectory...have to have the right trajectory to get the right footprint over the target area....anyone have sppeds on icbms?? propably not...just saying

reply to post by paearmor


See initial time frame from this Minuteman simulation. Events happen very quickly!



Now look at the footage from 0:45 on the 8th November event. This does not exhibit the characteristics of a ballistic missile launch. Where is the continued trail from this supposed rocket? Why does it not have visible and continuous engine plume? It is far too slow. It exhibits all the characteristics of an airliner initially producing a persistent contrail and then producing a non-persistent contrail.



The latter stages from 0:45 has the characteristics of an airliner, such as the MD-11, cruising at 30,000 foot plus producing a non-persistent contrail.

www.airliners.net...

TJ

Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by SarK0Y

 

So very conveniently the missile was launched and then slowed down to mimic an incoming airliner.

Your type of missile has become quite popular over the years!

TJ

tommyjo, yes... Hellicious damned yes, i'm ready to bet upon this video -- that's yet another perspective of the same Event but where did you see slow speed there??? that's far perspective, object follow curve with rather long radius for example: trajectory length is 305 kms, object's speed 2 km/s then 150 seconds of video. but, in real, missile cannot get this speed in no Time + missile can regulate flow power of exhaust that allows to retard moving with air resistance. & i Never was a supporter of Idea towards ballistic missile, cruise missile got to be most likely version