Can worshipping demons get you powers?

I never met anyone that could prove so.

Demons are indeed real, and if you dont believe in them, so what that doesnt change anything. Demons are fallen angels from heaven that rebelled against God almighty and were cast down from heaven. Lucifer was/is the ring leader and has many other names. To even ask about worshipping demons means you have seriously thought about it. You are doing something that is VERY dangerous. You can listen to the science based evolutionist factoid folks on here tell you there is no such thing, ect. Well, they tell you its all imaginary, you have never seen demons, and they have never been proven to exist these folks say. Well, tell them the same thing about a black hole in space. Watch the argument start haha. Black Holes are nothing but theory, regarded as fact, with no physical proof that they believe in.

Here is the truth. Evil exists, and the entire goal of any demon is to corrupt your soul and turn you away from God, either to make you hate God, or simply not believe. They have nothing but destruction planned for you if they get the chance. It may be one, or more than one working on you to get you turned from God. If they try to communicate with you, you are in big trouble. If they know you are trying to seek them out, they will make themselves available, and trick the ever lovin crap out of you once you take their bait.

One member suggested controlling them. DO NOT TRY THAT. From considering contacting them/worshipping them that means you are not in communion with God through the sacrificial Blood of Jesus Christ. You have no control over them without this faith. If you think you do, you are mistaken. Christ himself showed us what to do with Demons: SEND THEM AWAY! Every demon He came accross, He sent it away and told it not to bother anyone else, and did not control it, toy with it, or anything else. They BEGGED him not to throw them into the pit. They fell at His feet. They recognized him on sight. They ran TO Him, instead of AWAY from Him, and begged for mercy. He is our perfect example in all things.

God's Angels: You can think of them as the unseen enforcers, uplifters, caretakers, and all around protectors of humanity from evil for God. God's Angels defeated the rebellion, and hold power over the fallen angels through God's will. Call on them to protect you. Call on God to protect you, and ask God's forgivness for considering taking sides with those He has condemned. Learn about the Blood of Christ and what he did. These folks that call all this fairy tales, they just dont know. Get to know God. If you want "power" there is none greater than being covered by the Sacrificial Blood of Jesus Christ. I know this post may get some of the agnostic/atheist members in a tizzy, but oh well.

I agree with the above,I have met demons and they will do everything to take you down with them. My horriffic experience lasted longer than a month with something happening pretty much every day.And the worst part is i did not worship them or try to get any powers in any way. But asking a demon for powers is like a private asking the general to do his laundry and shine his boots. Your gonna get wrecked.

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I disagree.
If The Nazi's never were in power and performing their experiments and GENOCIDE, some other MORAL group would have made the discoveries.

I really hope I mis-understand your feelings towards the Nazi's....

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I met Ram Daas. Nice play on the name. Sort of a Commode Prophet are you?

I am not affiliated with the social organization group but I understand 33 level Masons are finally told they are and have all along been worshiping the light bearer Lucifer, another name for the Devil.

These Masons went on to became President of the US

George Washington
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
James Polk
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
James Garfield
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
Howard Taft
Warren Harding
Franklin Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Gerald Ford

So it looks like the answer you seek is, yes.

Leave the religion out of this.

Entities beyond our understanding DO EXIST, but the bible has absolutely no understanding either.

It's a 2000 year old story book, it has nothing on the unexplained.

It's a subjective experience, the bible knows nothing about this.

All the bible does it TRY to explain these things, and very poorly at that. Which makes sense, since it's a 2000 year old shallow perspective.

Originally posted by RimDaas
I was reading this boook and they were talknig about people with paranormal powers. These people were idol and animal worshippers. Idol worshipping is one of the biggest sins in my opinion, and satan, enjoys people going atray. Is he giving the power?

No deamons. You're mind can grant you powers you have watched in films. Simply start to meditate all 7 chacras, like buddha did and download information about everything directlly from source. Deamons do not exist. I can 100% assure you of that. Power of mind exist. If you will 100% belive that there is deamons, you're mind will simply create those deamons, because you're mind is like "administrator" of world. If you can 100% belive that you will fly- then you will fly. If you must believe that deamons gived you ability to fly in order to believe that you can fly- then you will made those deamons, so they "coud give you" ability to fly, while actually making deamons are totally useless, because you can gain same things without them.

Existence is made up of moments, and each moment has an infinite number of possibilities, each of which can lead to a different outcome's. Every single one of those outcome's exists realtive to our own, and can even have an impact on our own in certain subtle ways. This means that the reality we understand is only one momentary possibility, constantly changing, in an infinitely infinite sea of possibilities. In a truely infinite universe, everything is reality.

If you want, you can connect to some reality, where is deamons and simply transform them to this reality, but like I sed- Its pointless. You can gain same thing without transforming them here. These deamons are simply, to make you believe!

Originally posted by Cataka
#1. Demons aren't real.

#2. Therefore, by extension, the answer is no.

#3. If you believe in demons, then just look at the history of people trying to worship/use/gain advantage from working with demons. They are tricksters are manipulators, so even if 'they' tell you that you'll get powers, they are lying to you.

#4. If demons are talking to you - seek help from professionals; not people on ATS internet forums.

I have to say this. Human beings are the Creators here. Human beings have Created a great many things, in fact, anything that many people believe in, such as Santa Claus, or Jesus, or the Tooth Fairy, are just as real as human beings have made them. Ever heard of the Ether? I spend a lot of time there myself, many do, all of those things I described are there, they are real, you can touch them. Here are the Goetic Demons of Solomon lore...

The 72 Solomonic Demons

List of demons in the Ars Goetia

Solomon was said to have had control over these demons, and they are the ones who originally built the First Temple, and mined all the gold for the temple in Africa, and some say even in South America. Ancient gold mines can be found in both. I once read that these demons, for lack of a better word, are a part of our original Spirit, they are us, in other words. It was Priests and Scribes of the Church that named they, and gave them a hierarchy, and assigned a military order to them, much like the same thing they did with the Angels, who could be made of the same cloth as Demons.

You, friend, claim they are not real, then warn against listening to them, so which is it? I have a working relationship with my inner demons, and do not need to call them out in a High Magick Ritual, but this can be accomplished, and deals can be struck, I believe. We are inter-dimensional beings, and are not at this time really knowledgeable about the other "selves" that exist in other dimensions. This is coming, though, the dimensions are crossing, and people all over the word are reporting strange, supernatural events and sightings. For one who has deeply studied into the Occult Knowledge, I too would warn against delving into areas not well suited for the weak of mind and Spirit, and the practitioner not well versed in the techniques and preparations, and the correct rituals and license to depart necessary for dealing with such forbidden things in nature.

Originally posted by loner007
I think you need to start reading science books coz reading fantasy books like the bible isnt increasing your iq.....

Your iq is innate. So you aren't increasing yours either.


Can worshipping demons get you powers? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on you. Depends on the entity. There are human spirits that have been around for thousands of years that have been worshipped to such an extent that they've gained powers. And they can bestow some things on their worshippers.

As far as demons, what kind? Christian, Islamic, Jewish what? The ones that predate all religion and aren't beholden to it's charms?

Originally posted by autowrench
The 72 Solomonic Demons

List of demons in the Ars Goetia

Solomon was said to have had control over these demons, and they are the ones who originally built the First Temple, and mined all the gold for the temple in Africa, and some say even in South America. Ancient gold mines can be found in both. I once read that these demons, for lack of a better word, are a part of our original Spirit, they are us, in other words. It was Priests and Scribes of the Church that named they, and gave them a hierarchy, and assigned a military order to them, much like the same thing they did with the Angels, who could be made of the same cloth as Demons.

You, friend, claim they are not real, then warn against listening to them, so which is it? I have a working relationship with my inner demons, and do not need to call them out in a High Magick Ritual, but this can be accomplished, and deals can be struck, I believe. We are inter-dimensional beings, and are not at this time really knowledgeable about the other "selves" that exist in other dimensions. This is coming, though, the dimensions are crossing, and people all over the word are reporting strange, supernatural events and sightings. For one who has deeply studied into the Occult Knowledge, I too would warn against delving into areas not well suited for the weak of mind and Spirit, and the practitioner not well versed in the techniques and preparations, and the correct rituals and license to depart necessary for dealing with such forbidden things in nature.

Totally agree with you. Like I sed In my previous comment. Human mind are creator. If you want to create deamons, you can. Where I disagree with you. If humans woud not believe in deamons, they woud not exist. They exist because of our mind. They did not build anything, not in africa nor in any other place of world. Creator of those buildings are not deamons.

Because of "multiverse theory" everything, that can hapen, does. Only in other reality. You can acces other realitys with you're mind, because himan mind is greater then anything. There is reallitys, where santa clouse and jeasus and other imagionary characters exist and simly transfear them to this reality. So if I will believe 100% in big walking icecream, my brains can transfear one to this reality.

In short text, if you believe something 100% it will happen.

Now what goes for inner deamons. You're subconscious and conscious controls you're mind and body. There is simply no room for other spirits to come in. Thats why, when you perform astral projection, you can't enter other humans body. There is simply no room. If deamons woud live inside you're body, then they woud need to trow out you're subconscious in order to do so. I highy doubt that is what happened. You're inner deamons are simple emotions. You're anger etc. They are not actuall creatures, able to think, because if they woud, then you my fried woud be left without soul- congrats!

But why shoud you believe in deamons? Why shoud you transfear them from other realitys? Whats the point? If our mind can do allmost anything, starting from levitating, healing faster, make molecules move faster etc why shoud you transfer deamons? I mean, if you will 100% believe that someone will die, then he will die, so whats the point from deamons?

Originally posted by DrJay1975

Originally posted by loner007
I think you need to start reading science books coz reading fantasy books like the bible isnt increasing your iq.....

Your iq is innate. So you aren't increasing yours either.


Can worshipping demons get you powers? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on you. Depends on the entity. There are human spirits that have been around for thousands of years that have been worshipped to such an extent that they've gained powers. And they can bestow some things on their worshippers.

As far as demons, what kind? Christian, Islamic, Jewish what? The ones that predate all religion and aren't beholden to it's charms?

Human soul is actually simple subconscious. When you die, because of gravity of sun, you're soul/subconscious goes to core of sun. Christians call this place heaven. Thats why christians by praying to god, actually pray to sun and"zeitgeist the movie" allso support my theory.

You're spirit is this subconscious. So spirits/subconscious are made from electrons. Electrons are basically electricity. Electricity contains information. Thats why humans are born with instincts. When you die, you're subconscious with all you're life time experience goes to core of sun, because of gravity.

I think It is impossible for spirit to stay on earth. All this theorys about "unfinished busines" are bull#. It is not up to soul weather go to heaven(sun's core) or no. Gravity of sun FORCE soul go to heaven.Soul itself can't do nothing to change it, because there is no greater force then gravity.

Now help me find scientific reason, why sun's gravity woud not affect on particular soul but in same ime affect other souls so that soul woud stay on eart, because I KNOW that there is ghosts, I simply can't understand how can they be here, because it is against laws of nature. Remember, that ghosts are subconscious. They don't have conscious mind and brains. Thats why, souls or spirits can't think, can't feel, can't understand, can't remember They simply exist. So to stay here on earth and not obey suns gravity can't be they're choise.

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"Leave the religion out of this."...Ummmm...No. The Holy Bible was written by men filled with the fire of God, and contains the wisdom, experiences, and examples of God. God made Demons. This thread is about Demons. You can call it a fairy tale all you want and say its full of nothing and lacking explanations...that just makes is very apparent you have not read it, or have read it and didnt learn anything. If you want to talk about fairy tales go start a Hansel and Gretel thread.

Originally posted by loner007
I think you need to start reading science books coz reading fantasy books like the bible isnt increasing your iq.....

It is quite obvious science books don't increase everybody's IQ, with total lack of wit comments such as that...
wow, how originally intelligent to attack Christian Faith, that doesn't happen enough around these parts...
Why is it the Anti-Religion crowd, think they are so much smarter, then anybody who believes in God...
the funny thing is they never come off smarter... arrogant and sometimes a little creepy.. but never smarter...

Originally posted by DrJay1975

Originally posted by loner007
I think you need to start reading science books coz reading fantasy books like the bible isnt increasing your iq.....

Your iq is innate. So you aren't increasing yours either.


Can worshipping demons get you powers? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on you. Depends on the entity. There are human spirits that have been around for thousands of years that have been worshipped to such an extent that they've gained powers. And they can bestow some things on their worshippers.

As far as demons, what kind? Christian, Islamic, Jewish what? The ones that predate all religion and aren't beholden to it's charms?

Sounds interesting & intriguing. Human spirits that have remained here after death? Can you give examples?

Originally posted by NsatatRisatoz
Leave the religion out of this.

Entities beyond our understanding DO EXIST, but the bible has absolutely no understanding either.

It's a 2000 year old story book, it has nothing on the unexplained.

It's a subjective experience, the bible knows nothing about this.

All the bible does it TRY to explain these things, and very poorly at that. Which makes sense, since it's a 2000 year old shallow perspective.

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Not exactly. It is a thorough and comprehensive history and perspective the likes of which we have never seen before nor will again. You must be talking about a different book or else you have not read, retained or understood what you read in this one. Because you do not understand what you are reading does not mean the author did not know what he was writing.

Originally posted by Victor03
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"Leave the religion out of this."...Ummmm...No. The Holy Bible was written by men filled with the fire of God, and contains the wisdom, experiences, and examples of God. God made Demons. This thread is about Demons. You can call it a fairy tale all you want and say its full of nothing and lacking explanations...that just makes is very apparent you have not read it, or have read it and didnt learn anything. If you want to talk about fairy tales go start a Hansel and Gretel thread.

You eaven don't know what is god, how can you make any statements about it?

The question posed here reminds me of this experience I remember reading many years ago:

A young man in Thailand had heard a missionary witness to his older sister, but he did not express interest. He was involved in spiritism. Then one day he picked up a Bible, opened it at random, and read 1 Peter 2:9, where it says that God called his people “out of darkness into his wonderful light.” This scripture puzzled him, and he began thinking of the missionary. The very next day, she was at his door. When he told her that he had wanted her to visit, she replied that the angels had probably directed her. Then, to his utter amazement, before he said anything about the scripture he had read, she opened her Bible and read the very same text. He was so surprised that he cried. He agreed to a Bible study, which the sister turned over to an elder. However, the young man’s involvement with the demons made it difficult for him. Beset by financial and other problems, he had made a “contract” with a spirit to the effect that if he allowed it to dwell in him, it would help him and provide for him. As a result, he had been able to build up a business without much effort and had come to own a factory in which he employed many workers. He readily recognized that there are wicked spirits and realized that these spirits are powerful, but he felt gratitude to the spirit that he viewed as “benevolent.” He attended some meetings, but the demons prevented him from grasping and retaining what he heard there. Then the night before an assembly, he had what he described as a life-and-death struggle with the demon for whom he had been a medium. The young man gained the upper hand, but after that he slowly but surely lost all the material advantages he had received from the demon. As he put his trust in Jehovah, however, God provided for him—not the excessive wealth he had before, but everything he really needed. (1 Tim. 6:8, 9) He now serves happily as an auxiliary pioneer.

Originally posted by NsatatRisatoz
Leave the religion out of this.

Entities beyond our understanding DO EXIST, but the bible has absolutely no understanding either.

It's a 2000 year old story book, it has nothing on the unexplained.

It's a subjective experience, the bible knows nothing about this.

All the bible does it TRY to explain these things, and very poorly at that. Which makes sense, since it's a 2000 year old shallow perspective.

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You are totally wrong on that pardner....

If you go into reading the Bible with a dismissive and cynical mind to begin with, then sure, all those words in it would be wasted on you.. Not because they aren't true though...

Your entire premise of what the Bible is, is obviously biased and I am sure you feel you have reasons for that..

The Bible explains 100% about demons and what they can do, and how they can manipulate people and has plenty of testimony about the issue. Those same testimonies mirror exactly many modern day accounts about the same situations involving demons which gives all the more credence to it.

I will tell you another story one that was related to me by a brother of mine from Germany. He was visiting Denver at the time. We met at a local meeting on a Sunday and I invited him over to my home for dinner to get to know him a little better and we let him stay overnight, he was flying back the next day.

As we stayed up and chatted the conversation turned to how he learned the truth. He wasn't reared in it as your servant was. Rather his family lineage he explained went back many generations steeped in occult practices. He was from Bavaria Germany and gave me some German names to some of the occultish societies his family was tied to there but I don't remember them.

It happens that he related to me how his grandfather made a pact with a demon for a very high position of authority in the occult society he was in, which included prestige and money, and it was given him on the condition that after a certain time frame they would exact his life from him as payment and he agreed. And he did indeed become a powerful, influential and wealthy man. And when it came time to repay his debt they came and took his life from him. He said he died a horrible death, but did not elaborate further.

He told me how he came to know the truth was when he had a couple of witnesses knock on his door and he answered them and started to study the Bible with us. His dad refused to let him study with the witnesses so he would have to sneak away to study the Bible. One day after his Bible study he came home to his house where his father was waiting with a opt of building oil which he threw at his son when he entered the door. The oil fell to the floor never touching the brother, and he had to flee for his life as his father continued to try to murder him. Soon after he dedicated and baptized his life to Jehovah.

Deamons are not made by god. God is energy. Energy don't have brains- don't have conscious. Something, that don't have conscious can't think or feel emotions. It's that simple! Humans create deamons. If human 100% believe something, he can create it because of life energy (Chi) combined with conscious and subconscious. Deamons are not made by god. Because god don't have conscious, he can't write books- bible is writen by MAN and thats why SOME information it is holding is FALSE! Fallen angels? Are you kiding me?