Something that looked like a missile over Phoenix.

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I saw the exact same thing over Shreveport, La. about two months back. There were two of them. One traveled NE the other E. They originated west of Shreveport a few miles apart, a few minutes apart. Interesting.

I've noticed that when I see them the contrails never go away. Instead they form into the clouds. Chemtrails? Maybe?

Well, I must say this is what I like our ATS members working together and checking their skies and reporting. If we all pull together and watch our skies I have no doubt we will catch the truth on something sooner or later.

The Government is sneaky but we are catching on and sharing...... and with so many members in all areas of the globe we have our own little observation areas.

Nice to see people sharing and not being rude and fighting amoungst each other.

Good team works my friends

ROCKET LAUNCH: Last night, sky watchers in southern California and Nevada witnessed a bright light cutting across the evening sky. It was a Delta II rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base carrying Italy's COSMO SkyMed-4 satellite to Earth orbit. The SkyMed-4 is equipped with a radar that can image any part of Earth's surface--a capability that will come in handy both for military surveillance and scientific research. Follow the links for launch photos

link: spaceweather.com...

WOW!!! This is what I truly enjoy about ATS, everybody working together to find the truth! I just wanted to add that during yesterday, I heard a couple Military Jets flying over head but that's nothing to unusual here because of the air base that's in the southern part of Phoenix.

Originally posted by rockar
ROCKET LAUNCH:

The only 'problem' or disconnect there being that the reports for the 'Phoenix plume', if you will actually predate the Vandenberg launch by more than an hour. (?)

Originally posted by rockar
ROCKET LAUNCH: Last night, sky watchers in southern California and Nevada witnessed a bright light cutting across the evening sky.

The event discussed in this thread happened more than an hour before that launch. Eye witnesses reported making out a fixed-wing aircraft with blinking lights once it was directly over Scottsdale, AZ.

These are two separate events.

Having read through 3/4 of this thread [Got lost in the banter] has anyone thought that TPTB launched a secret craft trying to time it just right with the very publicly known launch from Vandenberg in order to stir confusion Just like we are witnessing in this thread thereby accomplishing a black project launch in plain sight?

Originally posted by astrogolf
reply to post by General.Lee

 

I saw the exact same thing over Shreveport, La. about two months back. There were two of them. One traveled NE the other E. They originated west of Shreveport a few miles apart, a few minutes apart. Interesting.

Holy Schnikees! I'm in Shreveport too and spotted a weird fireball as described in this thread-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I just returned from Lowes where I overhead two people talking about the plume, one was insistent that a rocket launched from Luke AFB. So, I jumped in and explained that I'm involved with a big website where this is being discussed.

The other person (woman) has a son who lives in Sun City which is just four miles from the base. She lives in Paradise Valley, and also saw the plume and immediately called her son. She indicated he said it was the loudest thing they ever heard taking off from the base, and it rattled their windows and dishes. He didn't initially see it, but said the direction of the smoke trail (is what she said he called it) definitely made it appear to be something that took off to the southwest, then quickly banked to a steep climb going east. She said he couldn't see what kind of aircraft it was, as the setting sun was reflecting brightly off it (plausible considering his vantage point).

Third party information, to be sure. But it indicates people here are talking about it.

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I was downtown in my office and got a good view. Came from the west. Definately not from Barksdale. Somewhere near the TX border. Call it ten miles west of Downtown. Mid day. Struck me as very odd. Shot strait up then veered directional.

Two fighter jets just flew over Bozeman, MT headed North West. It's the first time in the seven years I've lived here that I've seen that.

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The launch in the video was at night/early morning, the sighting and pictures posted by the OP were supposedly taken around 5:30 P.M.

Originally posted by General.Lee

Originally posted by MadDogtheHunter
I don't believe there was any nuclear incident in India. In todays net-powered world, something like that would be all over the web (google) by now for sure. Perhaps the Topic title should be edited at this point.

edit on 11/5/2010 by MadDogtheHunter because: (no reason given)

I concur with you. It doesn't make sense that something like that could happen and yet not "get out". That was the only thing that had me perplexed. It is entirely possible that this wasn't a full-blown government nuke but rather a home-made device. The person I spoke with also said "there were some bad people over there who had to be dealt with" or words to that effect.

Originally posted by quest4info
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funny you should ask, found this earlier today

gsn.nti.org...

So we know nuclear material has been floating around in India. Whats to say they got the only one?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
She indicated he said it was the loudest thing they ever heard taking off from the base, and it rattled their windows and dishes.

I'm glad you heard that because that's important information. Luke AFB is surrounded by both residential neighborhoods and farming communities. People live right near it. So if either a missle/rocket or jet aircraft took off with such power and speed from Luke, then necessarily people would have not only heard it, but felt the event.

The local police had to have had at least a few calls about the noise. What about the local news? Any mentions at all?

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Not sure I follow you, you're saying "I will look at things logically first" but having difficulty differentiating between real life and a skit on Saturday Night Live?? Yeah, "(Sarah Palin...Russia?)" that was a skit on Saturday Night Live. Seriously, "I saw it on TV, or I read it on the interweb so it must be true"?? Personally I don't care either way but that is pretty basic stuff.

Yes...I am well aware that the "I can see Russia from my house" comment was a skit on SNL. Which is why I didn't say Palin said she could see Russia from her house.

She did in fact claim that she has foreign policy experience because of her proximity to Russia. If you are not aware of that...and think the whole thing was made up by SNL...then please read the following article.

www.huffingtonpost.com...


Now...would you like to apologize to me? Or are you going to just try to smear me because you don't like that I am saying this is an airplane contrail?


I'm sorry people don't want to believe that it is a simple airplane contrail...I know people on ATS WANT there to be something more to things then there are...but sometimes it is just a simple explaination.

Here's a thought...

As Luke AFB is downrange along the flight path of the Vandenberg Delta II carrying the Italian satellite, perhaps what was witnessed over Phoenix had something to do with monitoring the launch?

From everyone's description it travelled over the greater Phoenix metropolitan area and nobody is reporting sonic booms so it couldn't have been travelling much faster than a commercial jet.

I would also like to add that I have lived in the area in the past and have seen a rocket launched from Vandenberg from a vantage point near the Casa Grande area in the early 70's.

What I saw was very low off the western horizon and looked like the high altitude rocket plumes posted earlier in the thread and was very different from the photos posted of the object in question.

wow

just

wow

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gsn.nti.org...

they found more uranium in a box in the guys house which had a label that said "Made in USA"(LOL!!!!!!)? wonder if he ordered it off ebay, too? just seems a bit much

There is no way that the Vandenburg launch is the same as the PHX event. Im pretty sure that when the government launches missiles and things of that nature they do it over the water, and not over a huge city like Phoenix. Thats why most of their launches are from Vandenburg and Cape Canaveral....they are both on the water. No one wants a missile to crash in the city and kill a bunch of people.